Post 9n5saaPOQKZ2oPdGds by nbering@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #9n5khjP4a2EN6RNXhQ by jerry@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-19T20:42:13Z
       
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       Any bets how long it will be before we see governments complaining about DNS over HTTPS causing criminals and terrorists to “go dark”?
       
 (DIR) Post #9n5m0NLktmUQA4HUhc by murph@fosstodon.org
       2019-09-19T20:56:49Z
       
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       @jerry I'm a little surprised that they haven't said that https is causing things to "go dark."
       
 (DIR) Post #9n5nTiCKZ6o3AkQQjY by projectmoon@fosstodon.org
       2019-09-19T21:13:19Z
       
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       @jerry already sort of happened (although not the government directly) https://itsfoss.com/mozilla-internet-villain/
       
 (DIR) Post #9n5saaPOQKZ2oPdGds by nbering@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-19T22:10:36Z
       
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       @jerry There was already and ISP association in the UK trying to label Mozilla as villains for implementing privacy measures that circumvent government surveillance programs.
       
 (DIR) Post #9n69lEuYOCHwXrsCQ4 by jerry@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T01:22:59Z
       
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       @nbering I’ve long wondered if ISPs sell their customer DNS usage info. Seems like a thing marketers would pay money for (even if it’s anonymized).
       
 (DIR) Post #9n6BJ4xrybZbUr7kXo by paco@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T01:40:13Z
       
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       @jerry @nbering Vodafone UK is pretty explicit about selling your call metadata as “analytics” en masse. Most people don’t know it happens. You have to manually opt out. https://www.vodafone.co.uk/privacy/vodafone-analytics
       
 (DIR) Post #9n6KphCAGqmav9RDg8 by og@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T03:27:04Z
       
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       @jerry probably a couple of years before lobbyists from marketing companies explain to them what DNS over HTTPS is and why it's hurting the economy.
       
 (DIR) Post #9n6KyapvHWypo1HFeC by og@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T03:28:42Z
       
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       @jerry @nbering Yes. And DNS over HTTPS providers will too. Google and Cloudflare aren't doing this out of the goodness of their heart. If the product is free, you are the product.
       
 (DIR) Post #9n6O4K6Eio4pUtKcu8 by ScottMortimer@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T04:03:20Z
       
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       @jerry I foresee a lot of push back from certain sectors (private and public) like we have seen with the British ISPs who are angry that DoH will thwart their lazy compliance with British law by using DNS filtering. Notice the use of the tired old "protect the children" canard being used to label DoH as disruptive and dangerous.
       
 (DIR) Post #9n6hog1zPZ4bxzA6Ea by dober@infosec.exchange
       2019-09-20T07:44:34Z
       
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       @jerry In Russia - already