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(DIR) Post #9mXh2NPbcISg0QnTjE by qyliss@mastodon.social
2019-09-03T09:15:29Z
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Free software is about protecting the freedom of the users of software, not protecting your rights as a software developer to deprive them of that freedom.It’s really a nice example of how the same thing feels like libertarianism/authoritarianism depending on whether you’re in the oppressor class.As software developers, especially non-free software developers, we are members of an oppressor class. Free software is one way we can choose to lessen our grip on power.
(DIR) Post #9mXh2NsJtXQjRUEPU8 by qyliss@mastodon.social
2019-09-03T09:18:54Z
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It worries me that, with so much of a push for software developers to unionise, this is not usually kept in mind.As software developers, we are indeed oppressed by those who profit from our labour, but we in turn enable the oppression of our users, by depriving them of freedom.To do that work, resulting in a deprivation of freedom, is the only way many of us can survive. This is the fault of the bosses. I am in the privileged position to not have to do that.
(DIR) Post #9mXh2ODacSRaVSBOdc by qyliss@mastodon.social
2019-09-03T09:21:20Z
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But I would not join any software developers’ union that does not recognise the freedom of users of software to be just as important as the rights of the people who made it.I would not join any union that would not strike for software freedom.Free software is a fight between users and bosses, and we’re stuck in the middle of it. Whose side are you on?
(DIR) Post #9mXh2OYVMhArYJy6Eq by Pyretta@afterlife.masto.host
2019-09-03T09:29:56Z
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@qyliss there's too much handwringing about the rights of the user as-is: the whole freedom 0 bullshit over certain fediverse apps deciding to block Gab proves as much (the rights of fascist users outweighing thr rights of the creator to safety- or at least to enough people to cause a clusterfuck)
(DIR) Post #9mXh2OwxtkjwmBPdMe by qyliss@mastodon.social
2019-09-03T09:34:55Z
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@Pyretta free software puts no obligations on anybody to provide software to anybody else. It’s just about making sure that anybody you do choose to provide software to has the right to do what they want with it, preventing you from restricting them.People claiming that free software means you must provide a service to Nazis either have next to zero understanding of the cause, or are arguing in extremely bad faith.
(DIR) Post #9mXh2PM8OAsC2FBjay by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-03T10:20:11Z
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@qylissBut someone you share the program with could share the program with a Nazi and there's nothing stopping them from doing so. It is a tool. Do you want it to be used by Nazis? No. But to license the software in a way that restricts usage is oppressive at best. @Pyretta
(DIR) Post #9mXh2PcRPXuuqool0q by ice@patch.cx
2019-09-03T10:21:01.285526Z
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@masterofthetigerYou're grandpa was a Nazi.@qyliss @Pyretta
(DIR) Post #9mXiU9n7x2UppCbr96 by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-03T10:34:17Z
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@iceActually no, my grandpa was Norwegian. @Pyretta @qyliss
(DIR) Post #9mXiU9yTGrZQONuupM by ice@patch.cx
2019-09-03T10:37:16.893035Z
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@masterofthetigerDeal is you can't really stop people you disagree with you from using Foss like tusky tried and we ended up with 50 other of the same app. To me I wouldn't worry about it if I was a dev I would worry if I'm making good software. @Pyretta @qyliss
(DIR) Post #9mXidH7Y4PXpA9Vduy by qyliss@mastodon.social
2019-09-03T10:36:42Z
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@masterofthetiger @Pyretta strongly recommend against replying to obvious troll
(DIR) Post #9mXidHTsjNPQHPxTjE by ice@patch.cx
2019-09-03T10:38:55.980398Z
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@qylissWell you are the troll son.@masterofthetiger @Pyretta
(DIR) Post #9n2wQb66qCF6WIjWS0 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2019-09-18T12:09:34.450213Z
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@qyliss “I would not join any software developers’ union that …” that's not how union works