Post 9mzLJu4FdInhY6vfaC by someonetellmetosleep@queer.party
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(DIR) Post #9mzL3llYjJfNAYUcc4 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T18:26:41Z
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Today I've realized that Instagram doesn't sort posts by timestamp, but instead by some weird-ass "importance" algorithm.That finally explains why I keep missing posts from my friends, thinking there's no new content, because some "influencer's" photo keeps blocking the top of my feed for hours or even days.You literally had one job Instagram...
(DIR) Post #9mzLCZ3TMIpCLw47hQ by Absinthe@qoto.org
2019-09-16T18:28:18Z
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@fribbledom it's called algorithmic timestamping or something like that. IT guesses what you are interested in so that you can be better targetted with advertisement. That is one of the concepts sought to be overcome by the federated systems.
(DIR) Post #9mzLFbQL0YoyZID2RM by gedvondur@hulvr.com
2019-09-16T18:28:42Z
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@fribbledom You literally had one job FACEBOOK. FTFY
(DIR) Post #9mzLJXPNsZ2TGzdipU by wizard@welovela.in
2019-09-16T18:29:34.402929Z
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@fribbledom I wonder how easy it is to manipulate that algorithm :think_bread:
(DIR) Post #9mzLJquDO9zRk7D71U by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T18:29:37Z
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@AbsintheWell, it clearly fails. I've seen that post, why keep it at the top the next time I visit the site, when you're actively hiding new content below it.It's not even in Instagram's interest, I would imagine. Had I known there's new photos below that old post, I may have spent more time on their site.
(DIR) Post #9mzLJu4FdInhY6vfaC by someonetellmetosleep@queer.party
2019-09-16T18:28:51Z
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@fribbledom this is why fedi is the only good social media network
(DIR) Post #9mzLcFAFvyBoBzU1IW by Absinthe@qoto.org
2019-09-16T18:32:57Z
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@fribbledom I can guess at things, but that's all it would be. I have read a lot about how it works, and what to do to get your stuff where you want it. I am just not sure it is worth the effort as the consumer. I get disheartened when some model follows me and she has 1 post and 2000 followers, while i was busting it to get content out and struggle around 200...
(DIR) Post #9mzLddkO1OBqix35YO by peemee@appdot.net
2019-09-16T18:32:18Z
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@fribbledom I call it Instasham.
(DIR) Post #9mzLsgNyUfdRFcjrea by sweetmercury@jorts.horse
2019-09-16T18:35:44Z
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@fribbledom yeah it’s a shitshow. Facebook (and by proxy, IG) are designed to be a confusing mess to drive up “engagement” numbers. Basically confused grandparents open the app and start swiping and tapping looking for the pictures of their grandparents that were just RIGHT THERE and these all count towards ad views, or something.
(DIR) Post #9mzMbOlCs3IBcOvYiO by nthaleph@toot.site
2019-09-16T18:43:53Z
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@fribbledom if everything were sorted chronologically, then as soon as you see an old post, you know you’ve seen everything, so you close the app. If they use their algorithm, you never know when you’ve seen everything, so you stay on the app longer as you scroll down for new content, and therefore see more ads.At least that’s my theory.
(DIR) Post #9mzMjJqV1kGmh0BDdI by Cedara@social.tchncs.de
2019-09-16T18:45:21Z
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@fribbledom Pixelfed - they sort by time.
(DIR) Post #9mzNhu7NITWAZ0xjOq by Ertain@mast.linuxgamecast.com
2019-09-16T18:56:18Z
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@fribbledom @Absinthe Time You must be joking. They don't have an option to sort them by posted date something?
(DIR) Post #9mzNrXIgzEIWgzqhQO by Absinthe@qoto.org
2019-09-16T18:58:07Z
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@Ertain @fribbledom not sure i undertand what you are asking
(DIR) Post #9mzNwvvupY86XMljvs by carlchenet@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T18:59:02Z
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@fribbledom Facebook owns Instagram since 2012
(DIR) Post #9mzO1sLLbYICqr1N3Y by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T18:59:57Z
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@Ertain You'd think, but at least on desktop/browser I can't find it. Maybe it's available in the app?@Absinthe
(DIR) Post #9mzO66CY1SvgzQv2iO by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T19:00:44Z
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@CedaraOh, I'm a big pixelfed advocate, no doubt. However that doesn't automatically convince all my friends to make the switch.The old dilemma, I guess.
(DIR) Post #9mzOEiZNFqTwIrhoQq by Roboron@im-in.space
2019-09-16T19:01:29Z
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@fribbledom That's one of the top reasons I like libre networks like Mastodon :-)
(DIR) Post #9mzOWvoek8XQbCXSUq by ab@bsd.network
2019-09-16T18:54:01Z
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@fribbledom I for one vehemently hate all such algorithms used by Twitter, Facebook, Google, Reddit, etc. If IT taught me anything it's that my own personal biases are boring and reinforcing them means missing out on a bunch of rando weird fun stuff. This is why I prefer the unfiltered Mastodon and usually browser Reddit logged out.
(DIR) Post #9mzOZ2n5mY7ooHoYkK by JigmeDatse@mastodon.matrix.org
2019-09-16T19:05:05Z
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@fribbledom This is part of why I get frustrated with such shenanigans which the big social media things do. I don't *really* want to have to try to outsmart something that *insists* that it knows better than I do, about what I want.
(DIR) Post #9mzPYO1nRAYyLAwV9c by Cedara@social.tchncs.de
2019-09-16T19:17:01Z
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@fribbledom True.
(DIR) Post #9mzSlxHXyTyxJ2TI0W by karlos@en.osm.town
2019-09-16T19:53:00Z
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@fribbledom Twitter is doing the same. And I switch back to „time“ every view days, as long as it is possible.😖
(DIR) Post #9mzTTmmgMmHVUOw1Fg by bVork@niu.moe
2019-09-16T20:00:57Z
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@fribbledomI mean, it is their one job and they are doing it well. Unfortunately, that job is getting your eyeballs in front of as many ads and paid promotions as they can. You are not Instagram's customer despite what they pretend.
(DIR) Post #9mzZubBmBW6v4SqCC8 by grumpysmiffy@aus.social
2019-09-16T21:13:00Z
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@fribbledom Yeah, algorithmic timelines suck donkeys.
(DIR) Post #9mzd0sES20V3Wsm9ui by paperdigits@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T21:47:49Z
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@fribbledom you thought instagram was about getting you your friends content? Nah, it is a marketing platform, son of course you see marketing shit first.
(DIR) Post #9mzd7Ps9rzuDbJT5X6 by idleDreams@witches.live
2019-09-16T21:49:00Z
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@fribbledomInstagram and Facebook use the same algorithm. And that's why I have two instagram accounts. A personal one for friends only and one to promote my stuff and to follow small shops and "influencers"
(DIR) Post #9mzdDUCMhPTwkroXEO by KopfKrieg@mastodon.bayern
2019-09-16T21:49:58Z
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@fribbledomTwitter does the same, Facebook too I've been told. Just another reason to use Mastodon, Peertube, Pixelfed and others, because they all sort by timestamp and not some drunk-weird algorithm.
(DIR) Post #9mzgRm5JIMOg921FHk by gudenau@mastodon.technology
2019-09-16T22:26:19Z
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@fribbledom That's the hip new way to screw users, YouTube and Twitter do it by default. 👌
(DIR) Post #9mzh9GCHDJsxzM0sRU by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T22:34:11Z
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@bVorkNot sure, really. I feel like the only thing they achieve is me getting off that site very, very quickly again. I'd probably see more ads if I'd scroll through my friends' posts.
(DIR) Post #9mznVE06exeVGyB3eS by Parnikkapore@mastodon.social
2019-09-16T23:45:21Z
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@fribbledom @Absinthe > Spend more time on their siteAccording to some people, this is actually their intention, maybe so they can push more ads before you found what you want, and maybe to boost reported engagement times.
(DIR) Post #9mzngD4wQb9rbAg2Ea by dustin@mastodon.dustinwilson.com
2019-09-16T23:47:14Z
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@fribbledom It's been that way for quite a long while. I only use it to post artwork I've done, and it's the most horrible experience I have.
(DIR) Post #9n17pRonBkmi9ylWxE by d599f84e@mastodon.xyz
2019-09-17T15:07:49Z
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@fribbledomI believe algorithms don't ONLY serve us content that we might be interested in, but serves us content that is profitable to the service owner.#priorities
(DIR) Post #9n3GdyzdJ6z5TjMdCy by sullybiker@sully.site
2019-09-18T15:55:59Z
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@fribbledom Yeah, it's bollocks.