Post 9mvS9vCuSlslEcKKWm by zenhack@mastodon.xyz
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(DIR) Post #9mtUFiWOLvCNDiPX9s by pho4cexa@tiny.tilde.website
2019-09-13T22:17:50Z
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😩i've defended rms' pedantryi believe in free softwarei believe copyleft is essentiali believe AGPL3 is the best licensei disagree with those who say "software freedom isn't important these days" or that ease of use is more important but every time RMS makes the news he undermines the FSF and the free software movement 🤦♂️i just e-mailed them to discontinue my recurring donation and told them whygonna increase my donation to software freedom conservancy instead
(DIR) Post #9muqSzz38FHrICVtmy by lorabe@quey.org
2019-09-14T05:58:41Z
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@pho4cexa what happened?
(DIR) Post #9muqT0DEHWd60B9DtI by pho4cexa@tiny.tilde.website
2019-09-14T06:00:51Z
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@lorabe https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing
(DIR) Post #9muqT0R3S7gkh3cGRM by lorabe@quey.org
2019-09-14T06:31:25Z
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@pho4cexa So that's the reason.While i don't want to give RMS the reason, because he said some imprudent things (such as harem and some of his conclusions) if you don't allow people to express their opinions even if those contradicts the way that laws see and judge an act of crime, you are comdeming the free software community to a censorship, and the community it's already very us centralized.Also, the best argument that i found in the blog is an assumption that the free software community is protecting RMS just because he is an important member of the movement, she is creating a narrative of a powerfull man that is opressing everyone, and he, for sure, must be cancelled and dethroned.
(DIR) Post #9muqT0dShzc5JXQAmO by gid@cybre.space
2019-09-14T10:12:13Z
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@lorabe @pho4cexa telling the FSF that we think it's harmful for RMS to remain their figurehead isn't censoring the free software community. It's not censoring anyone.RMS has a history of problematic behaviour (sexism, defending pedophilia). He may have the freedom to express those opinions but that doesn't make them acceptable for someone who represents the FSF.
(DIR) Post #9muyqzfyj6TYvDXu64 by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-14T15:59:01Z
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@pho4cexaWait, what is RMS doing?
(DIR) Post #9mv2rLEOz5dhah4ItM by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-14T16:43:56.580329Z
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@gid @lorabe @pho4cexa> sexismStallman is against sexism.> defending pedophiliaIs this really problematic?> but that doesn't make them acceptable for someone who represents the FSFShouldn't people be allowed to have their own opinions? I do not see why the "figurehead" of FSF should lack any personality.
(DIR) Post #9mv39HXfRJmTMSdOIy by ELR@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-14T16:47:09.397436Z
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@Mikoto @gid @lorabe @pho4cexa i think mostly people relate pedophilia with pederasty
(DIR) Post #9mvRRB0wqW3HEDObku by gid@cybre.space
2019-09-14T21:18:12Z
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@Mikoto>> defending pedophilia>Is this really problematic?Yes
(DIR) Post #9mvRRBXurwQIsSow8u by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-14T21:19:20.191966Z
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@gid How so?
(DIR) Post #9mvRqZFZsGztdOLW5I by ELR@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-14T21:23:55.985664Z
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@gid @Mikoto i dont think pedophilia is like an "election" nor a problem itself. Even most people already prefer other people in certain ages or with specific appearance.
(DIR) Post #9mvS9uqZno1A7LsUiW by zenhack@mastodon.xyz
2019-09-14T17:06:30Z
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@lorabe @pho4cexa on the free speech point: letting stuff like this slide makes our spaces less welcoming esp. to women, and ends up having a silencing effect on them.It would be unreflective to think that this kind of outcry isn't intended as a silencing mechanism, so yes, there's some pressure on RMS's speech.But there's a conflict here, and so by pushing the speech angle for him, you're actually taking a side, not just making a meta point about discourse.
(DIR) Post #9mvS9vCuSlslEcKKWm by zenhack@mastodon.xyz
2019-09-14T17:12:28Z
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@lorabe @pho4cexa Nobody's taking about passing laws here, but the legal right to free speech rights does not mean there are no social consequences.
(DIR) Post #9mvS9vYBBgtcIaHJgG by lorabe@quey.org
2019-09-14T20:06:18Z
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@zenhack @pho4cexa at this point we are not talking about the legal consecuences, but the social consecuences.For one part, i agree this doesn't help women to feel comfortable in the free software comnunity wich is bad, in my opinion RMS is just a person that lacks social perception, and as such he doesn't care about modern things like "microaggresions". He doesn't measure his words in a world with very sensitive people who only cares about that.But that is far away from being a pedophile or a misandric person, such alegations are really exagerated in my opinion. Greetings.
(DIR) Post #9mvS9vxhenJRZkDhSq by a7@neckbeard.xyz
2019-09-14T21:27:22.396544Z
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@lorabe @zenhack @pho4cexa >rms has said some of these things almost 14 years ago>suddenly pretend to care after vice makes article Hes a fucking autist who eats shit off his foot in public, stop putting your noise in communities you never paid attention to in the first place. None of this shit is surprising, for fucks sake people get a better hobby than group planned outrage.
(DIR) Post #9mvTewJMVYh5aehPkG by ELR@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-14T21:44:05.042496Z
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@lorabe @zenhack @pho4cexa cat-aclysm is the solution
(DIR) Post #A5VffuCSE9VHY0U5QG by pho4cexa@tiny.tilde.website
2019-09-15T23:24:33Z
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re: cancelling my FSF donationi don't have a demand as concrete as "cancel stallman"i just think that he's doing more harm than good, they aren't even acknowledging the problem, and donating now makes me feel guilty and uncomfortablebut what exactly *do* i want the FSF to do about RMS? i've been struggling with the question.thankfully before i could even articulate this discomfort for myself, mjg59 is there with a spot-on analysis and direction for a solutionhttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/52587.html