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(DIR) Post #9mtZWZ1vOUw6Td0qem by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-13T23:40:30Z
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In light of the tragic death of brilliant, brave, and always witty Magdalen Berns, I will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!). I am raging with sadness an anger. In 2016, Magdalen, who was banned from pretty much every feminist and LGBT club at her university in Edinburgh, said, "You might be worried about your job or your friends, but your rights are more important than anything else." If she can be brave, you can be brave. Stand up, speak out. Do this sister justice. RIP šā https://www.facebook.com/meghanmurphywriter/posts/2900377283309757?comment_id=2900382479975904&notif_id=1568416189792659&notif_t=feed_comment
(DIR) Post #9mtZfCGzNDsEVHAvui by CherylBaker@spinster.xyz
2019-09-13T23:42:04Z
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@meghanmurphy pretty easy to say when your a privileged white woman.
(DIR) Post #9mta7IpGbUMIw2buC0 by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2019-09-13T23:47:09Z
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Hi! Even angleworms can stand up and declare our real name! Lol. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtbOUrrBZrn9vaIuO by AthenasWrench@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:01:27Z
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@meghanmurphy - Because of Julie Bindel and Magdalen I came out as a radfem\GC everywhere, including facebook. I will no longer apologize. I will no longer cower in fear. I will look everyone in the eye and not back down. Thanks Meghan for being a warrior. I hope you are still coming to Toronto.
(DIR) Post #9mte77kECewUNrQL2G by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:31:49Z
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I respect and admire every woman who chooses to come out of anonymity, but we should never be guilting women who are not in a position to do so. Not everyone can afford to risk their job, not everyone has a backup support system, not everyone has a plan B. It would be horribly elitist to disregard or trivialize that. For many women, losing their job would put them on the streets, and I would never ask a woman to do that for the sake of activism.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mteBrtyX9QehEFH2u by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:32:48Z
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I respect and admire every woman who chooses to come out of anonymity, but we should never be guilting women who are not in a position to do so. Not everyone can afford to risk their job, not everyone has a backup support system, not everyone has a plan B. It would be horribly elitist to disregard or trivialize that. For many women, losing their job would put them on the streets, and I would never ask a woman to do that for the sake of activism.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtecLu5btATH4vYBs by Jennifer_Lee@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:37:36Z
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No one has the right to tell me or anyone else what name to use. Many of us are activists on multiple fronts and have differing levels of risk. I really despise this guilt trip. @terven_witch @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtfSUtVQch2DUWEdM by CrackerjackCailleach@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:47:00Z
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Agreed. And some of us have already been placed at risk for using our own names fighting on another battlefield. That is true for me. We can't assume that women who don't share their names aren't speaking out in another way. And that might even be why they can't do it here. @Jennifer_Lee @terven_witch
(DIR) Post #9mtgZ5squoEEd3vGa0 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:59:25Z
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@terven_witch No one can afford to lose their job. No one can afford the risk. Magdalen is right. Our rights are more important than anything else.
(DIR) Post #9mthyMDTQbFcTfB7om by HekArtemis@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:15:08Z
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@meghanmurphy You will no longer tolerate excuses.... So what does that mean? You will no longer fight for the women who can't speak up for themselves, because their excuses aren't good enough in your estimation? What does it mean? What are you actually saying?
(DIR) Post #9mtiFfZYiPTVQslPiC by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:18:08Z
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@HekArtemis Oh please. I fight for all women. I mean women need to speak up and take action. SO many women have lost so much speaking up about this. We all need to speak up, together. We need to fight for ALL women's rights. This is about all of us.
(DIR) Post #9mtizdUolf6QJUSs08 by WaxJustice@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:26:37Z
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I may not be able to use my own name online but trust me, I am boots-on-the-ground waking women up to this assault in person. Lots of them (and one of them contacted me recently to get together to plan some activism). That'll have to do for now. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtkFxcVoYbjJZPaAy by HekArtemis@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:40:46Z
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@meghanmurphy Your comment about no longer tolerating excuses implies that there will be some kind of consequence for the women who do not speak up in their own names. Wouldn't be the first time people withdraw their support of others like that, so I wanted clarity.But you will continue to fight for those women who don't speak out. Good.
(DIR) Post #9mtkswIudq4KWhpYgq by Women_Exist@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:47:47Z
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Wow. You won't tolerate excuses? You don't know my situation. @meghanmurphy. As a single parent who just can't afford to lose my job, I need to be anonymous, thanks.
(DIR) Post #9mtlY0mit2heIRMJd2 by Hildegarde_de_Bingen@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:55:13Z
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@meghanmurphy , I think there are many, many ways to help. I'm an artist-- that's what I'll contribute.
(DIR) Post #9mtmEafvpxudlsUAZE by Devon@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:02:55Z
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When did she pass? I did not know this, only that she was in critical condition. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtnZWiBrv0PVv5Zya by MadCityRadiXX@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:17:53Z
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@meghanmurphy @terven_witch I have the greatest respect for you, MM. But some people have others to support besides themselves, like children. Some have their own health problems to deal with. I was in a feminist group where some were pressuring others about being public. At least a third of the women in that group had serious mental health issues. I sided with them on maintaining anonymity. Some of us are preparing to make the sacrifice (like me) and will be out soon. I understand your rage and grief and you're absolutely right that more need to take a public stand, but suggesting NO ONE has an excuse is wrong.
(DIR) Post #9mtotRM9acEOeMqCGm by cecilialepine@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:32:43Z
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@meghanmurphy I second that. There are many public figures who refuse to "come out" to their followers out of fear of losing their respect or seeing their book sales drop or something. I've heard of a published feminist writer who confessed she was too scared to even "like" a GC tweet for fear of the backlash. We would really need these people to speak up in France. What good does it do to call yourself a feminist activist and cower out of fear of backlash from people who have done nothing but smear their sisters, at the cost of losing friends and basic respect from strangers, both in real life and online where abuse is rising up. If the people in power won't publicly speak out in favour of their people, then the people will make them sit down and listen. Names are powerful. Anonymity can be easily disregarded. Let's show that there are people behind ideas, people who can be vastly different from each other, people who are not just shadows and who can't easily be discredited as "internet trolls". That's how we get our legitimacy back from those who attack us from a place of power with their names, titles and public reputations written all over the media and in associations. That's what free speech means at its core : being unafraid to tell the truth as your own person, a person with a name and a life. Anonymity creates a gap between us. The human cost is staggering.
(DIR) Post #9mtpNLa5cszdQTcVOK by Holly_Stamer@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:38:04Z
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I put my last name on my Twitter account today. Of course because Magdalen, but also bolstered by seeing other women be brave and doing it. We literally all of us have things on the line. The bio father of my beautiful boy has serially stalked me for 9 years, threatening to take him away, tried to extort money from my family with threats of posting revenge porn of me online. Today is the first day in 9 years I have my actual name on ANY social media This movement matters to me, especially what is happening to children. Personally I am willing to take that risk and itās because of being asked to do it. And saying yes. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtq3GXSlQAjwxNbd2 by Artemis@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:45:42Z
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@meghanmurphy A simple google search of my legal name turns up my home address, my phone number and email, every place Iāve ever worked, people Iām related to. Iām not prepared to do this on social media. I have PTSD from being gay bashed. Iām not prepared to handle threats against my life. I donāt own a gun and my dog is old. That said, Iām not in the closet about my radlezfem political views in real life.
(DIR) Post #9mtrbKpTPzWv3Zc5bM by mancheeze@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T03:03:04Z
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I just don't get why women have to threaten others to reveal their dox as if anon women were the real problem in the world and not the white male capitalist patriarchy. Is it really 'justice?' to guilt women on social media while using a dead woman to do it? If I ever reveal my birth name, it's not going to be because you or anyone else puts pressure on me. I've been on social media much longer than you have probably been alive on this Mother Earth. I do things in my own time, at my own pace. I have NOTHING to prove to anyone. You do You. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mtujBkPMpxR4MgFrU by Betty_Davis_Knees@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T03:38:05Z
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@meghanmurphy I, too, have raged with anger and sorrow at Magdalen's illness and death. She was a such unique person, her voice and personality cut through clear and strong and made many women braver than they had before. She inspired us and we love her for it, despite not knowing her. I have so much admiration for those who have risen to leadership and fought the takeover of feminism and culture, both you and Magdalen in particular. Finding Feminist Current and Magdalen's videos felt like a home-coming and I have been inspired to start tweeting by both. šI love what you do. I admire your intellect, courage and tenacity, and the way you can write articles that manage to be both succinct and in depth at the same time. I think you, Magdalen, and other activists like you, underestimate your brilliance. I know you will all have had many long nights of the soul in your lives; times when it seems too hard; times when you feel vulnerable, terrified, and alone, despite your brilliance and courage. I don't know what combinations of talent, grit, intellect, courage and hard work it takes for people like Magdalen to rise and shine but I know it's a relatively rare combination. I hope more budding Magdalens, Meghans, Julies, Laras, Claires, etc, hear your call and let their light shine. Not all of us have the capacity, though. I think 'capacity' is a comprised of a myriad qualities and resources. Some would be things like intellectual ability, support of a partner, solid family and friendship groups, financial resources, emotional strength, confidence, and social status. The kinds of disadvantages that prevent some people from speaking publicly are a myriad and complex combination. The addition or removal of just a couple of advantages can make the difference between being able to stand up and not being able to. Fear and bravery both have many components, not just the obvious ones. Some people live under dark clouds of poverty, social disadvantage, housing instability, family violence, disabilty, grief and trauma. There is a world of judgement already being heaped upon them and what they have to lose if they go public might be one of the few things they have to cling on to. Then there are those who have very little of those issues to deal with but are terrified for their children and I totally get that. I really believe that we are all playing our part. I wish I could be more public on platforms like twitter and Spinster. I hope one day I will be able to. Some of us take a leading role, some are in the chorus, others are bit players, stagehands, prop managers. Right now I'm glad to be doing what I can backstage. I applaud everything you do and am learning from you and many others every day. Maybe somehow, someday, I can make a small difference that helps to turn the tide. ššš
(DIR) Post #9mu0UTkKlWEGGz0zDM by shrikefliesfree@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T04:42:40Z
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Another issue I can see both sides on. I signed up to Facebook with my real name long before I got into dealing with the trans cult so my real name is on there. My pic there is a horse's rear end because facial recognition that, Zucky Boy!Since I am caring for my elderly mother and she does not choose to have trans cult creeps in her life in any way, I will not use my real name for now. When it is just me, I will probably start using my own name online. I have no issues with anybody who prefers to use screen names. One of the reasons us real women once had faith in the internet age was that we thought that if we had a fake name, then people would have to deal with our arguments, not with who we are or what we look like. Guess we were naive. @mancheeze @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mu3brvZYfT19wUGMS by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:17:35Z
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@mancheeze no one is being threatened... Christ. It's not about 'guilting', it's about standing together and standing up. No one is more or less important than anyone else. I have seen enough women lose their jobs and otherwise suffer for speaking up. If we want to effect change, we need to be brave and stand up, together.
(DIR) Post #9mu3g8XHkcUvpMA6nQ by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:18:24Z
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@Holly_Stamer <3 <3
(DIR) Post #9mu3j8bdwiVAujdDPc by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:18:56Z
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@cecilialepine šŖ ā
(DIR) Post #9mu3pmlTYBAbCXOswC by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:20:09Z
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@AthenasWrench I will be in Toronto next month, yes! <3
(DIR) Post #9mu3qznWZyN9ubw52m by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:07:08Z
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I just took inspiration from what you just said.Coming out slowly. Never before publicly on facebook. But, for Magdalen, tonight I am being brave. @AthenasWrench @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mu3r0FWtqm3JT2RhA by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:20:21Z
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@ReSistingPink @AthenasWrench ā¤ļø
(DIR) Post #9mu458IJmlVaJn52f2 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:22:54Z
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@Jennifer_Lee @terven_witch I have no idea why this is being perceived as a 'guilt trip'. It's a call to action. We need to stand up for all women; not let some take all the heat, suffer, and lose their rights. It is not ok that some women have lost their livelihood, friends, and communities over this. It's not ok that we will all lose our rights. We *need* to take risks to have an impact.
(DIR) Post #9mu4DylKawKPMSrwxs by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:24:31Z
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@MadCityRadiXX @terven_witch Maya Dillard-Smith is a single black mother who lost her job and is now unemployable because she spoke out. We need to support women like her; we need to support all women.
(DIR) Post #9mu4NDVX8r9rhOsvOS by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:26:11Z
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"will no longer tolerate excuses"They're not excuses, they're perfectly valid reasons. And what does no longer tolerate entail? @meghanmurphy @Jennifer_Lee @terven_witch
(DIR) Post #9mu4g8XtoX1hoQ0sQy by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:29:36Z
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Gawd I'm appalled at the defensiveness here. Why must some of us be accountable and not others? Why must some women suffer and not others? And *this* is the 'feminist' platform? Stand up and support your sisters. I can't believe I am being forced to argue with women whose names I don't even know, when a brilliant sister died today. I am asking you to carry on Magdalen's legacy. And today of all days, arguing with women is not what I want to do with my time and energy. This place is feels worse than any other social media platform today. I'm out for a while. Enjoy āļø
(DIR) Post #9mu54KoPrLVoo1HFQm by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:33:59Z
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I agree with you @meghanmurphy. We offer the blue checkmark to everyone here to empower people to use their real names.
(DIR) Post #9mu5WU4N2C7fcpA848 by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:39:03Z
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When people feel attacked they defend. Who is forcing accountability on unwilling women?Does the suffering and danger of other women lessen yours?Who is being unsupportive?Nobody is forcing you to argue, you can not respond or delete the post.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mu62PMY4NYCIHt5ea by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:50:42Z
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Exactly. And more to the point, going āpublicā doesnāt only put ourselves at risk; it puts our families at risk. Iām not staying anon for myself, Iām doing it for the people I care about. Early on I made ONE ābraveā post on Spinster with a couple photos of me and my partners celebrating the day my wife got her green card, and it wasnāt long until some absolutely vile racist misogynist re-posted the photos on another site with the most appallingly racist/anti-immigrant slurs I have ever seen. Not long after, my wife woke up one morning in tears from a nightmare about being stuck in an ICE detention facility. I have a very unique surname and these psychopaths could easily use it to find my home address. These people literally want us dead, and frankly I donāt think it matters one damn bit what name we use as long as weāre all fighting the same battle. Anonymous usernames on tumblr turned me into a radical feminist and we can easily do the same for others.@CrackerjackCailleach @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mu62PdD4QsV7xgOci by LiseMeitner@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T00:58:43Z
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Im such a fucking LIBRA im all oh yes that's an excellent point i totally get that we're stronger if we expose ourselves in numbers, and then I also agree that it's elitist and dismissive of women who must protect livelihood/family. There must be some kind of happy medium on this issue where women who can probably should take risks on behalf of those who must remain anon and really have no choice in the matter idk @terven_witch @CrackerjackCailleach @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mu62Pts4UCnxdThaq by shrikefliesfree@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:44:49Z
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The happy medium is we each fight in our own way, in the best way we can personally afford to fight and let others do the same. @LiseMeitner @terven_witch @CrackerjackCailleach @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mu6HJXpyzbaasH9X6 by LaSpange@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:47:30Z
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@meghanmurphy some of us donāt have the luxury of being able to survive if we lose our jobs. Some of us have jobs that put us into vulnerable situations without adding a risk factor of getting doxxed. Some of us are dead easy to find because thereās only like 3 Shenannagans LaSpanges in the world. Some of us, sorry to say this, donāt think the sisterhood or any other -hood will come and rescue them from the possible privations of job loss and home loss and medicine loss and possible mind loss. Some of us donāt massively appreciate our admittedly often faltering steps to try and make a difference being judged as inadequate by someone else, even if they use their real name.
(DIR) Post #9mu6ZAJx13G1CNIC4u by Lesleykim@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:50:44Z
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@meghanmurphy I can't put my last name on Spinster or Twitter due to my ex being a sociopath and our upcoming trial in December. But, I am telling my friends everything I am learning about through Twitter and Spinster and my own research, which has opened their eyes and I am hoping that they will share their new found knowledge. Once my nightmare has ended, I will be happy to put my last name on my social media.
(DIR) Post #9mu7Nls7fxXg8mPHMm by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T05:59:53Z
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When people feel attacked they defend. Who is forcing accountability on unwilling women?Does the suffering and danger of other women lessen yours?Who is being unsupportive?Nobody is forcing you to argue, you can not respond or delete the post.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mu9zdUjTE314UeJFo by blackilocks@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:29:08Z
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I hear you Meghan and I agree with you. Just saw a woman with an anon account come out on Twitter and I was so happy for her, because she is showing up for herself. I did not see what you say as guilt tripping at all. Many women are disempowered in their lives and frankly when empowered women say things like this, they feel lousy and can't see the good intentions behind it. A disempowered woman is the consequence of patriarchal pressure, it's also an over compensation of being too self righteous, preferring to project rather than reflect which fosters more disempowerment. Of course being visible has it's risks and I am thankful you're visible, empathy is a two way street, I try my best to understand their situations and I would like them to understand as well. @meghanmurphy @Jennifer_Lee @terven_witch
(DIR) Post #9muAIbnA1dXzICJdFQ by blackilocks@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:32:35Z
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Yeah I had to up my self-care just to deal with defensiveness. Damn, I want to spend time and fight together, not be a target or get zero empathy. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muBlMDF7zHVKHmtzE by snerber@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:48:59Z
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@alex @meghanmurphy I understand the fear but it gets easier once you start. And it gives us credibility to account for what we say.
(DIR) Post #9muBzMR55w6K4YwD44 by MrsLondonland@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:51:31Z
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@meghanmurphy no can do. You make your choices, I make mine, I have been stalked by a violent man for over 3 years. I am not going to put my real name out for him to come and get me. And I do find being judgemental about choices other women make on this inappropriate, there are many reasons that make you keep anonimity in life, most of them are not fun. I am quite shocked I find myself explaining this to you honestly. Hope this will end here.
(DIR) Post #9muCBjGI3QCuLCmvEO by sunshine@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:53:36Z
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as much as I respect your work, you are not being forced to argue with anyone - as you've proved by stepping away after showing a surprising lack of empathy for some of our most vulnerable sisters @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muCtIvTKb2HP5pRui by Tallon@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:01:37Z
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How? I mean I know the usual ways of petitions, calls, emails, as far as laws an all, but for legal fees, and keepin afloat, what o do? Thereās gofundmes, but that aināt gonna be sustainable, gonna be too many of us. Used to be we had orgs like aclu, and nclr, but not anymore. We need something like that for lesbians. Again.@meghanmurphy @MadCityRadiXX @terven_witch
(DIR) Post #9muD105vEJotJdO1vU by GinandTonic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:03:00Z
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Meghan, some of us are worried about more than jobs or friends. Some of us could be deported and separated from their children if we were reported (just being reported by some litigious TRA, not convicted of anything is enough) to the police because of our immigration status, and not have the money to fight it. I admire anyone who does speak out, especially celebrities and journalists and yes, you are right, if you can do it, you should, but for some of us itās not possible @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muD17RRugCO6QVox6 by Tania@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:03:01Z
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Ok, I have put my full name-maybe in exchange for a woman who can't? Does that make any sense? In any case, I want to say how glad I am that you're (all) here. ā¤ļø@meghanmurphy @MadCityRadiXX @terven_witch
(DIR) Post #9muDKBcIcBCYYMgAy0 by GinandTonic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:06:28Z
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Meghan, some of us are worried about more than jobs or friends. Some of us could be deported and separated from their children if we were reported - just being reported by some litigious TRA, not convicted of anything is enough- to the police because of our immigration status, and not have the money to fight it. I admire anyone who does speak out, especially celebrities and journalists and yes, you are right, if you can do it, you should, but for some of us are immigrants and itās not possible @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muDPb3VSf12tkz8Ns by GinandTonic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:07:27Z
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Meghan, some of us are worried about more than jobs or friends. Some of us could be deported and separated from their children if we were reported - just being reported by some litigious TRA, not convicted of anything is enough- to the police because of our immigration status, and not have the money to fight it. I admire anyone who does speak out, especially celebrities and journalists and yes, you are right, if you can do it, you should, but some of us are immigrants and itās not possible @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muDTa9kkLm9Geo6ue by JessSweetValleyHigh@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:08:11Z
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No longer tolerate? Ok š¬ the death of someone is not an excuse to make demands of women who may not be in the position you are in and who may have children depending on them, have mental health issues, be a victim of stalking , or some other reason why they cannot or do not want to. Many of us anonymous people are working very hard on this but have to remain anonymous while we do. I respect your work very much, but your lack of awareness on this is breathtaking. And actually quite sad. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muDWz3Kdf0nLqQShM by trish01hyena@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:08:46Z
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Magdalen made me realize the small sacrifice of personal friends is a badge of honor. (I did cry on peaktrans day. Lost dozens and dozens. I'm over it.)ā¤ļø @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muDmMwE7EB7m4RG4W by GinandTonic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:11:35Z
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Meghan, some of us are worried about more than jobs or friends. Some of us could be deported and separated from our children if we were reported - just being reported by some litigious TRA, not convicted of anything is enough- to the police because of our immigration status, and not have the money to fight it. I admire anyone who does speak out, especially celebrities and journalists and yes, you are right, if you can do it, you should, but some of us are immigrants and itās not possible @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muEYdAX4bPq0s8vlQ by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:20:18Z
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@MissScarlett I didn't say anything about social media. There are ways to speak out beyond Twitter. I am relaying Magdalen's message and suggesting we follow in her footsteps. Your condescension is unnecessary.
(DIR) Post #9muEvCgpghVwYB0yq8 by KristalKinistino@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:37:54Z
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@terven_witch @meghanmurphy It seems suspicious to use Magdalen's death to elicit women to suddenly give up their legal names, how does this even benefit anyone? I hate this sort of virtue-signalling.This is an anonymous platform, women are free to remain anyonmous. One has to wonder at the objective of even promoting such an initiative, on a platform which has sprung up out of the air, with ties to men who have a history of being hostile to women, mind you.
(DIR) Post #9muEvCvinLQLILys2y by Hildegarde_de_Bingen@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T01:52:39Z
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@KristalKinistino @terven_witch @meghanmurphy I understand --why it's important that women speak up with their real names-- but I also understand why some women cannot do this: you can't tell a woman with three kids who could lose her job to jeopardize her livelihood, when she has no safety net to catch her when she is brought down. For some of us, this is HARD. In my case, I'd do it-- but I'd cost other people their employment because my business would be tanked. They can't afford to go without work in a city where a studio apartment runs upwards of 1500.00 per month, and they are living hand-to-mouth. As am I. So, maybe we should come up with some sort of "safety net", so women CAN speak. Part of Patriarchy is Financial Oppression.
(DIR) Post #9muEvDBfq2BU5pRbua by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:01:03Z
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We shouldnāt have to justify why we canāt or choose not to use our real names. We can be fully active feminists and influencers using āfakeā names. Look at history. Lots of people used alter egos. Itās what we say and do, not what our name is, that matters.@Hildegarde_de_Bingen @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muEvDN19rG4f0kfaq by Hildegarde_de_Bingen@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T02:03:52Z
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@terven_witch @KristalKinistino , honestly-- "stealth" tactics may end up being more effective than "In-your-face" activism, in the end. This is how TRAs managed to get so far without the notice of the public. By the time anyone figured out what was going on, it was too late.
(DIR) Post #9muEvDVscuLb6UtkPI by Corinna@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:04:39Z
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Trans activists use their legal names. They managed to āget farā because they made quid pro quo deals with other left-wing activist groups, and by leveraging work gay and lesbian activists had previously done, again, using their real names. āStealthā tactics are ineffective. You canāt effectively organize with people you canāt really build bonds with. There are people who feel they have very good reasons to remain anonymous. But why are you defending your anonymity? At the very least, if you canāt claim your name, can you at least empower others who can? @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muF2ZJvwhjqlUoe5w by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:14:35Z
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Nobody owes you or Ms Murphy any explanation. Fin.@Corinna @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muF2ZXl7InVSNHge0 by Corinna@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:20:01Z
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Nobody is asking for an explanation. Just the opposite. If you canāt use your name, you may have good reasons. Thereās no need to explain them. The stories of why an individual canāt is of no help for those who have done so, and only serves to create anxiety for those preparing to come out of the closetāwhich in fact, to this is directly comparable. @oculusmundi @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muF2ZsfrXWmVF4OFE by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:30:05Z
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Ms Murphy chose to denigrate the position of women she doesn't know. They've an absolute right to respond.Nobody owes you or ms Murphy an explanation. Fin.@Corinna @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muF2a8ysuZVJohPf6 by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T06:37:40Z
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Oh, and of course it is an utter nonsense to claim that women who have had their position denigrated discussing why they can't/don't do what Ms Murphy has advocated is in any way making anything harder for anybody else. If someone had posted "this is why you should remain anonymous and I will no longer tolerate women who don't remain anonymous" you would have a point.Ms Murphy has stated she will no longer tolerate women she doesn't know making decisions she knows nothing about in lives she has no part of. Her statement is unsupportive and causes women she knows nothing about anxiety. Women defending their perfect right not to do what Ms Murphy has advocated they do is not unsupportive. And they owe nobody any explanation.@Corinna @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muF2aTXeT1CLaJpi4 by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:25:41Z
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@oculusmundi @Corinna @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino I'm relaying and supporting Magdalen's message. Sorry you don't like it, but she's right.
(DIR) Post #9muGxg7XR4rSJcoWZM by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:47:14Z
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No, you're not Magadalen's mouth piece, you spoke for yourself. And you're utterly wrong, as has been evidenced repeatedly. I'm embarrassed for you.@meghanmurphy @Corinna @Hildegarde_de_Bingen @terven_witch @KristalKinistino
(DIR) Post #9muHB8MxickNgyRcOm by Kintsugi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:49:40Z
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Youāve got this wrong Meghan. Youāre trying to shame women who have every right to seek anonymity in the face of threats from men. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muHL2vwmdYljHXEAq by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:51:27Z
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Ok. To clarify, there are ways to speak out beyond Twitter and beyond social media, generally. I'm not sure why there is an assumption that this is specific to speaking out on Twitter. Plenty of women do the work and speak out in various ways, in various places. Most of those women cannot afford to lose their jobs. Many of those women have children. Many of those women are working class. Many of them have serious health problems. They all have bills to pay. I hope people stop feeling defensive for a moment, watch Magdalen's talk at Conway Hall, hear what she had to say, look at the bigger picture, think about the impact of losing our sex-based right, and follow in her footsteps. I hope you will all think about the women who have lost their jobs and are unemployable. Who are afraid, alone, and ostracized. And I hope you will think about what it is we are faced with losing if we don't all stand up and speak out. And now, actually, I'm taking a break from this platform. I'm very surprised and saddened by some of the hateful things I'm seeing being said online right now. It's disappointing to see women trashing public women, from behind anonymous Twitter accounts. I'm unimpressed that Magdalen's message is being lost in all this. For those who missed it or simply did not bother to watch, her brilliant and funny talk is here (and the quote/message I referenced is this: āPeople are making it impossible to talk about [sex based and sexual orientation based] protections enough to defend them...You might be worried about your job or your friends, but your rights are more important than anything else. If you cannot talk about the fact that youāve got a female body, you wonāt be able to defend any of your rights. Itās completely possibly to undo not only decades of feminism but hundreds of years of feminism. Itās this important.ā): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWSjAFYiF9U
(DIR) Post #9muHY1LxyE5yantMLw by JessSweetValleyHigh@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:53:48Z
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You questioned women and their fear and made comparisons you have no right to. We are not being defensive, itās calling you out on something no feminist should do. Stop it. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muHhFrHPV12BYwRZg by Pricey@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:40:47Z
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Telling another woman to 'calm down' is particularly unacceptable to me. Women have forever been told that by men. Emotions are bad, emotions are worthless, they're the reason women are made to feel 'less'. Don't do it. And telling a woman to 'calm down, have a drink and don't dictate behaviours to other women' is really hypocritical. @MissScarlett @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muHhGLPbT7Ph12VXc by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:55:26Z
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@MissScarlett @Pricey Good lord. Stop being so rude. This is so inappropriate.
(DIR) Post #9muHtQL8GYuOAUhvmq by Jennifer_Lee@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T07:57:39Z
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You're just butthurt that YOU got doxxed and burned, so you expect the rest of us to be your human shields. And you're exploiting the memory of someone who is beloved to radfems, who just died TODAY to push your agenda. It's unforgivable. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muI7JSKenG6s9hL2u by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:00:11Z
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@Jennifer_Lee You are a horrible person. I'm blocking you.
(DIR) Post #9muICvxuuJIbkt9Tai by georgia@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:01:11Z
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@JessSweetValleyHigh @meghanmurphy the day callout culture moved to spinster :(
(DIR) Post #9muIQjeLUeGRc4Zvvc by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:03:41Z
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You are projecting Meghan, you sound very defensive. Everyone gets it wrong, and this time you are wrong. Your original post was dictatorial and frankly rude. Women telling you you are wrong isn't hateful. Nobody has trashed you, you're doing a fine job of embarrassing yourself here however.Enough with the ad homs. Argue the words not your feelings. You're not Magdalen's mouthpiece. We are all aware of her stellar work and we all feel great respect towards her and will carry on behaving as we see fit in our own lives.If it were me, I would just delete the post and move on. Or re word it and lose the bit about not tolerating women who won't comply. But you do you.And finally - no matter what their reasons, it is not your place to tell other women to ditch anonymity. Fin. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muIqUKN5ECDcaW20u by Geminz@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:08:18Z
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@meghanmurphy I heard and read a lot about you. One thing I didn't expect was to see you as an abuser. You wont tolerate my making my own choices and decisions? Really? My abusive ex husband was the same. So was my rapist who wouldn't tolerate me saying no. Well done Meghan, great company to be in.
(DIR) Post #9muIvklxMvxu4XvfGq by oculusmundi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:09:18Z
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I'm curious about your comment re Meghan being doxxed and burned? I thought she was always open about who she was, but I have only followed Feminist Current on and off for a few years?@Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9muJ7vs5veTzyDbj9s by Gill_TSQ@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:11:29Z
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There's an enormous difference between encouraging people to discard anonymity and saying "I will no longer tolerate excuses..." about those who don't. No-one's 'forcing' you to argue with people who disagree with you. That's your choice; you could have chosen to ignore those replies.I saw quite a few people come out from behind pseudonyms last night, and good for them. I applaud them. But some of the anonymous women you're berating in your first post? They've been, and will continue to be, on the frontline - at meetings, at marches, at protests. It's extremely high-handed of you to sweepingly denigrate their contributions (even if that was not your intent). As for me - well, I'm inclined to ask if my 'semi-anonymity' passes your purity test? And guess what - even if it does *I'm nobody*. Just like most of the anonymous women - we're just ordinary women getting on with our ordinary lives doing what we can, where we can & how we can. We don't have media platforms or public profiles. Nobody's going to ask us to give a speech or write an opinion piece or provide specialist advice. But we're there. Chipping away. Talking to people face to face, handing out leaflets, combatting TRA lies on social media. We're the foot soldiers. You'd miss us if we went.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muJEV5zsYR4xCF4pk by Kintsugi@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:12:41Z
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Take a social media break Meghan. Process the grief for Magdalen. @meghanmurphy @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9muJeYOGFheMhWCy1I by Kateco@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:17:23Z
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Don't leave Meghan, that isn't helping anything. You provide so much information and you've very much led the way. You made a post that some people took offense at. People don't always read what you wanted to say. There's a huge academic discipline on the way that messages are signalled by the author but received by the reader in a different manner. I'm sure that you're aware of it. We're going to fall out over things. It's impossible not to. But we have to keep the communication lines open. We have to keep talking to each other. Disappearing, doesn't help. Be strong and keep fighting. Talk to people. Most of all keep going. Sending love and comfort vibes if that helps @meghanmurphy @Geminz
(DIR) Post #9muK02xlmLVLbN48IK by Lemondrizzle@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:21:17Z
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@meghanmurphy @GeminzJust block. You'll find this space improves a lot after that.
(DIR) Post #9muKBWM8puSnwqw8Ui by meghanmurphy@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:23:20Z
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@Geminz Ok. This is pretty much the last straw for me. This place is no better than Twitter. Enjoy the space.
(DIR) Post #9muKW41HNylS94ySqu by SouerTeresa@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:27:02Z
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@Lemondrizzle @meghanmurphy @Geminz Yes i block the needlessly argumentative. We are all on the same side with gc. Im happy to disagree with someone without attacking them.
(DIR) Post #9muKfwMihNYRIniEEq by StanFastic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:28:49Z
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Purity testing eh @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muKuVoxflgxJss27s by StanFastic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:31:26Z
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āI will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!).āSo. A purity test. Not interested Meghan, even if you are a grandee by birth.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muL0b7mrnl1VRZtJI by StanFastic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:32:19Z
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āI will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!).āSo. A purity test. Not interested Meghan, even if you are a grandee by birth. You donāt get to tell us plebs what to do.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muL9p6qF0sDU9XDFY by StanFastic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:34:15Z
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āI will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!).āSo. A purity test. Not interested Meghan, even if you are a grandee by birth. You donāt get to tell us plebs what to do. Thatās what got us here in the first place, remember?@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muLKFshYgzzPetYXI by HeatherS_@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:36:07Z
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@meghanmurphy we knew magdalen before you did. But thanks.
(DIR) Post #9muLarOrpf8sPOrH28 by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T08:39:09.428249Z
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@meghanmurphy An interesting thread.This woman has a complete meltdown and announces that "this place (their instance) is no better than twitter".She is rather incoherent and difficult to make out, but, it seems that her major grievance is that people who say things she doesn't like are allowed to talk to other people who are not her. This includes, I am to understand, people who ignore her, and even people who endorse things she likes but do not do so with their full legal name.It's pretty gross, but an interesting perspective on how this sort of person thinks. Note the descent into hysterics as soon as any sort of minor resistance is met. I suppose this is the primary method of persuasion for this sort of an individual: if you don't do what I say I will become increasingly hysterical and that is annoying and I know you hate annoying things
(DIR) Post #9muME4FhyvH1YyGmlU by StanFastic@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:46:13Z
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If you had just posted this, maybe the jarring āmaking it all about meā section would have been skimmed over and forgiven.Itās just the earlier post in addition: āI will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!).ā which makes it rather too obvious whatās going on.What. Were. You. Thinking?@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muMswt0H2Meae8woy by LangCleg@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:53:30Z
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@meghanmurphy FLOUNCE!Don't be daft, woman. Flouncing is what the TRAs do.We can be angry with each other. It's not the end of feminism.Some of us are open IRL and online.Some of us are anon IRL and online.Some of us are open IRL and anon online.We all have our reasons. And we're all at different points in our consciousness. All's good. No need to flounce!
(DIR) Post #9muNDfNYYnjaNEJThw by Caffy67@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T08:57:21Z
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Thank you for this Meghan. I will not be silenced about pour sex based rights, and I am not afraid. I caught radical feminism from Magdalen, so I'm off to a good start. When you say that Women are trashing women in public.... where? Here on Spinster? I really am behind what is going on. Too bust researching trans cultism and forming arguments and writing. Sorry to hear you have to have a break, but I just had one, and am now quite refreshed and feel more able to tackle the problem, again. Thanks for all you do, and for all you have done MM. And yes, I too will miss Magdalen, and will continue her legacy by speaking out!@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muNjBMNhnpKXQn89w by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:03:02Z
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@meghanmurphy Were you hacked? This doesn't sound like you. Magdalen wasn't telling women online HEY USE YOUR REAL NAMES!! The only ones who want that would be the ones that seek to harass us. This place is very new and I've seen places that were supposed to be for females end up flipping the script and who knows if it were bought out and that's why the change. I'd advise women online for their SAFETY to not use their real names especially if it would be easy to find them and stalk them.Is this going to be yet another data mining scheme to make someone rich?? I hope not but how could you sit here and act like this place is just the worst social media spot when twitter banned you? Many of us were!
(DIR) Post #9muOTBSLgDD09pWAPw by Kassandra@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:11:19Z
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We women have lost a great voice today. I've had my cry. Done. Now it's time to SPEAK OUT! Today I vow to speak up and fight for my rights as a woman even more. Magdalen Berns has been such an important person to me. Her videos made me feel less isolated and politically homeless. I totally agree Meghan. This is a critical cultural moment. We need to defend our rights and call out sex-based discrimination for what it is - when it is.Magdalen's light shines bright in my heart. Her words, her fire and her conviction has lit a fire under many of our butts! Time to put that inspiration into action. That's how I'm going to remember her... through action, and speaking out!~Good Journey Magdalen! ā¤ļø @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muQGVO4Supo7GbCzI by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:31:29Z
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@fluffy @meghanmurphy Who the fuck sent in a damned narrator from outside of Spinster? Meghan, is this REALLY you??? How do we know she wasn't hacked. Just doesn't sound right.
(DIR) Post #9muQgyjPzDxoegCvaa by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T09:36:17.278195Z
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@Genie @meghanmurphy This doesn't concern you, genie. I have no interest in discussing any topic with you whatsoever. Please do not @ me again.
(DIR) Post #9muQmSH9ZNNPjTb9jk by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:37:16Z
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@fluffy @meghanmurphy You reposted...we can see it ;)Don't repost if you don't want to talk about it. It was inside the topic.
(DIR) Post #9muR0E7mynJltjmjho by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T09:39:45.995042Z
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@Genie @meghanmurphy Broken software is no excuse for harassment. Do not contact me again.
(DIR) Post #9muR1sQ4eKYD9z7mMq by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:40:02Z
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@fluffy @meghanmurphy Oh you're one of those addicted to anime porn types...I'll go ahead and block you.
(DIR) Post #9muRiriJ9LdHQH9THc by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T09:47:50.036838Z
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@meghanmurphy Good, he took the hint.It's by far preferable to deny to some loser the ability to see your posts than to block yourself from seeing them.image.png
(DIR) Post #9muSe3SIAPnCLSvkcy by Beatriz@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T09:58:07Z
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@meghanmurphy while my dad had a pseudonym during Spanish Franco dictatorship
(DIR) Post #9muTXRVuQ76mt7281Y by TerminalState@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T10:08:10.780246Z
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@fluffy That's nice and all but... How did you get the blue check mark?
(DIR) Post #9muTqxHuVas6w5n2C8 by Beatriz@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T10:11:40Z
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@meghanmurphy while we were living in France my dad had a pseudonym because he took part in clandestine political organisations against Franco dictatorship. He could have be arrested, interrogated, deported, incarcerated, tortured or even killed. Many others had pseudonyms, one of them went to become a democratically elected Spanish president. Letās trust women to know when and how to speak up, wether itās in social media, in their social group, with family, publicly or privately.
(DIR) Post #9muVe1kinVSUvWEH7Q by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-14T10:31:46.781139Z
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@TerminalState You need to sign up for Pleroma Pro. It also allows you to use the native app, which is nice.
(DIR) Post #9muZ6ltx6tmw1ewdxA by WrenWinx@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T11:10:33Z
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Grief makes all of us defensive. My heart goes out to all who are grieving today. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mucezXNDchA1bOPPU by Fernanda@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T11:50:18Z
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Hope you come back soon, we need people like you here. I understood your call to be vocal and you are right, there are so many ways to make a real difference beyond social media. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mudfu5b3lNlN7OoD2 by EttisDaughter@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:01:44Z
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Bravery is subjective. You cannot ever know the risks people take to speak out. And I am not just talking about professional risks or risks with friends, but psychological risks as well. I think encouraging women to speak out is really important. I think anything more aggressive than that is unfair. Its a personal decision. For some women its about safeguarding. Some of the "public women" as you describe them may well feel they can take the risk with their careers and income. Some of the "public women" may have even benefitted from speaking out. But there is a world of difference between the economic risks a middle class woman from a two income home takes compared with those taken by - for example - a poor working class woman with one job in an environment which at the moment is at best precarious. To ignore that is an expression or privilege.This pressure on women seems to me less a tribute to a much mourned feminist icon and more anotehr way of impressing on women that they must do as they're told.Fuck this for a game of soldiers.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muexVBEVfBJHgzUe0 by CrackerjackCailleach@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:16:04Z
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Exactly, @shrikefliesfree @LiseMeitner @terven_witch @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mufG136lCntKw1DMW by CrackerjackCailleach@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:19:25Z
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Exactly - -@shrikefliesfree. We also do not know from online interaction, with or without names, what sort of steps others are taking. For me it might be challenging orthodoxy in my workplace directly and discreetly rather than making big public statements. Or educating people I know, even my therapist!! What kind of effect might that have have, eventually? Maybe it's generational -- I do not assume that likes and clicks are a measure of productivity and significance.I would love to go a stop farther from what you said, beyond "letting others," to "supporting." šŖ @LiseMeitner @terven_witch @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mugpM8mR0ESqA5SZU by RadFemFatale@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:37:02Z
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@alex Hi Alex, I'm wondering how I can get my account verified?
(DIR) Post #9mugxKY2EvxaDXhbWK by DorsetGirl@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:38:30Z
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Meghan, I know that you have stood up and taken a LOT of shit on behalf of all women, for which I like, admire and respect you tremendously. But I hope at some point in the future you will realise that in this post you have attempted to guilt-trip and coerce women into behaving in ways they don't feel safe or comfortable with, and honestly, don't we get enough of that from men?The fact that some of us are here anonymously tells you *nothing* about who we are in real life and what we do there.I have two reasons for not outing this account: one is that I created this screen name over ten years ago specifically to talk - using various platforms over the years - about my life, my children, their teachers, my OH. All of those people deserve their anonymity. I could of course create a second account for gc stuff, but I chose to use here the name I have on twitter - which is outing myself to the tras in a small way and thus feels quite scary.The second reason is that I have a unique combination of first name and surname, certainly in my country and as far as I know across the world. Googling my name brings up instantly the electoral roll (from before you could opt out of the open register), with my outward postcode - which narrows me down to one small town and its surrounding villages - and the name of my partner, who also has a unique name in this country. I also exist on the internet with my full address and date of birth, from various corporate positions I held in the past.Those people worried about doxxing? If I used my real name here or on twitter I'd be doing that to myself, instantly. Also to my partner, my mother, my children - who have jobs and woke employers to worry about. The upshot of all this is that my anonymity on social media is not just mine to give away, and - I say again - it tells you NOTHING about what I do or say in real life.@meghanmurphy @terven_witch @CrackerjackCailleach @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9muihwMW4zyGls6UTo by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T12:58:06Z
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I absolutely support women like her, and all womenāas my original post stated, I admire and respect the women who choose to take those risks. My only point is that we should also be supporting and respecting women who choose NOT to take those risks, for whatever their reasons may be. They donāt owe us explanations and we have no idea what their circumstances are.@meghanmurphy @MadCityRadiXX
(DIR) Post #9mujHIr8RKuYfbHtWy by terven_witch@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T13:04:31Z
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I absolutely support and respect women like her and all other women who take these risks. But we should also be supporting the women who choose not to, for whatever reason. They donāt owe anyone an explanation. The idea that we MUST risk personal safety (and by proxy the safety of our families) in order to be considered āgoodā activists is just not something I can support. We donāt owe martyrdom to the cause.@meghanmurphy @MadCityRadiXX
(DIR) Post #9muleulZr8QKod4gU4 by MadCityRadiXX@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T13:31:12Z
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@meghanmurphy ***Gawd I'm appalled at the defensiveness here.***When you use language like "I will no longer tolerate excuses" you have to expect some pushback, amiga. Also, browbeating people over any issue doesn't work. It just makes people more defensive. I know several people IRL who dug their heels in when pressured, but months later when that pressuring person was out of our lives, spontaneously, on their own, started speaking out on Facebook. Some people have justifiable reasons (that they are not obliged to explain) for maintaining their anonymity - and you don't know what they may be doing behind the scenes to "support their sisters." And those whose main reason is fear are not going to overcome it any faster by being pushed into something they're not ready for.
(DIR) Post #9muoNtTPi491kG9cFE by MadCityRadiXX@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:01:44Z
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@meghanmurphy ***I hope people stop feeling defensive for a moment, watch Magdalen's talk at Conway Hall, hear what she had to say, look at the bigger picture, think about the impact of losing our sex-based right, and follow in her footsteps. I hope you will all think about the women who have lost their jobs and are unemployable. Who are afraid, alone, and ostracized.***See, this kind of attitude right here is what's got people riled. Do you really think women on this platform haven't given this any serious thought? How do you think we all got here?
(DIR) Post #9mupMaN9LE2iAXAFPs by cyberwanderlust@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:12:42Z
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If you've ever bothered to answer my emails in 2014 you would know who I am. ;) You had my support for years but you or other internationally prominent women should not pressure international women to use their own names. You don't realize we have no access to laws and protections like so many of those who live in the west. You would rather have me in jail or persecuted in Serbia than here working for the cause? Wow, think about who you're talking about here. Is it the women in Canada or UK or USA or EU? Also, do you know we don't care about the "public square" like Twitter or participating in it. More of us out of the countries mentioned here are tech anarchists - we don't want to be free in a Twitter cage. Please listen to women like me who have different perspectives on the issue. Ask questions instead of raging about the object you have in your mind. We've spent yesterday drinking and crying and talking about Magdalen and I know she didn't mind my pseudonym when we talked about a video she did in 2016. Do you know which one? The one about calling us all TERFS. Magdalen hated the arrogance of Western feminists who are telling everyone what we should do. I can provide a proof on that opinion, from our private talk -because she's gone now. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mupvMmXrVPk9dcyKO by cyberwanderlust@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:18:59Z
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I went on a public radio in Serbia and spoke about gender ideology and the clash between feminists and genderists. https://m.mixcloud.com/RADIO_APARAT/ozbiljne-price-ra-006-090619/I did it under my pseudonym "Sajber Vanderlast" and will be doing it further. Don't tell us we're anonymous. Because the consequences of this radio talk was shutting down my feminist page which I started in 2013. Also, getting threats of violence and acid attacks "AGAINST TERFS AND SWERFS" from psychos in Serbia. I reported it to the police - they did nothing about it. ;)@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muqFtmYsSp0IKQSae by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:22:39Z
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You're doing a great job @meghanmurphy and I completely understand your point. It was the same argument when I was involved in animal rights activism - we used our real names when going into slaughterhouses and breaking open the cages. Even though what we were doing was illegal, we released films with our real names. Our goal was to inspire others to take similar above-ground action. Using your real name brings authenticity to your actions because it forces people to contend with your humanity.Occasionally we would plan to be arrested. Not everyone has to accept this, but some of us did. I don't see you guilt tripping at all, just suggesting that some people can choose to take a risk. Also using your real name is far less risky than intentionally breaking the law and planning your arrest... The majority of our group were women too. I think people's fears are legitimate, but what you're suggesting also makes sense as a tactic. Godspeed.
(DIR) Post #9muqu8anEUtRoL6n8i by ninapaley@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:29:59Z
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Urging people to come out is not "guilt tripping" those who don't.Those of us who are out pay a tremendous price; we bear the brunt for everyone else. Of course @meghanmurphy , and I, want more people to come out. It would help us, and all other women. Not everyone is fit to surrender anonymity, but more are than are doing it. It is disappointing to see women who are benefitting from the risks Meghan (and I, and other out radfems) have taken, criticizing her now."Coming out" is an ongoing philosophical debate that may never be resolved. Certainly homosexuals fought over similar issues 30 years ago. I don't fault anyone for not coming out. But the attacks on Meghan's plea are not merited.
(DIR) Post #9musUIiLB57pa9Rkqu by Jingles@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:47:43Z
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I agree. Meghan started a really important conversation and unfortunately bore the brunt of heightened emotions.Personally, I have always used my own name on every platform. I understand why some won't.I also understand why Meghan wants us all to think about It and the implications of doing so, or not. The Sisterhood is for us all. (TRAs not included - you can all just fuck off)@ninapaley @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9musyaYhOfHtc5NZYW by kathleenbee@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:53:10Z
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@ninapaley @meghanmurphy In the interest of a more rounded picture of being "out", in my case I've been "out" for a while and have faced pretty much zero consequences to date. I'm a tenured professor, which makes a huge difference, of course (in my case I cannot for the life of me understand why anybody gender critical who has tenure isn't out). But it's not always a dystopian hellscape if you do it! The high-consequence backlash comes for people who have a higher public profile to begin with (and thanks Meghan and Nina and others for bearing that brunt). That's not most of us.The *only* thing that has happened to me so far is that when I put a Sarah Ditum quote on my office door, one of my colleagues reported me to my department chair (and simultaneously covered her office door in pink and blue "Trans Ally" and "Trans Women Are Women" posters, lol)My chair wrote to ask me about my door sign. I wrote back and said, I'm going to continue to be vocal on this issue, I've signed the Women's Declaration on Sex-Based rights, I'm teaching a course next term including material that is radfem, gender critical, and trans ideology, and I've published an article on a Canadian feminist site about my views (Feminist Current). Please report me to the higher ups as you see fit.and the word came back down from my chair and the Dean: Oh, okay. Carry on.That's been it so far. I know this is mostly tenure, *but* I also think a lot of it is just being straightforward and people who come into it expecting you to cringe and look guilty when they are like "I caught you OUT" and you say "yep I am out" are wrong-footed.
(DIR) Post #9mutHIKdO7HyaNiigK by DejaVu@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T14:56:34Z
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@ninapaley Very well said, Nina!@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muuvs6Lusrj3px7PU by Iz@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T15:15:05Z
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I am vegan, so I think it's great you have been involved in animal rights activism. If I had a criminal record I would lose my job. Sometimes people can't do things that others do, if they want to carry on doing something that they think is of value. I think teaching is a very worthwhile profession and not worth losing. I serve children every day. As you say, some people can choose to take a risk. Not everyone can. Not everyone can be the same. Honestly, if it becomes a thing on here that women are only welcome, or are only made to feel welcome, if they are here in their own names, then lots of us will end up leaving, or new women won't join and I don't see how that will benefit women. @alex
(DIR) Post #9muv36HVatz14AcLzs by renclithero@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T15:16:24Z
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@ninapaley @meghanmurphy Consciousness raising is important too, we can do that anonymously but it has more credibility coming from someone who is "out"Living in fear of being outed is just as bad as when it actually happens, from experience. I think it makes things very real. Whereas it can seem like a game to some liberal/leftist women who seem to shove aside the fact that this is happening to us because we're *women*, not because we're black, fat, or disabled, or mothers or jewish or christian, or whatever other thing is topic of the month to bully other women for talking about or asking questions about. It makes you take everything more seriously but yeah I got next to fuck all support when I was doxxed - I hardly have any friends close to me, I live alone and my family think I'm a mentalist, so I understand those who won't come out, especially when you are mentally ill and have no support network.I'd rather some women stay anon and keep consciousness raising than come out and get fucking destroyed. This is a marathon, not a race. What's worse than not being out is being in the public eye, having support and STILL being a fucking coward and saying shit like "transwomen are transwomen" and saying insane shit like "natal men" and "biological women" refusing to acknowledge the disgusting sexism that is "womanface" (I could name names here, WPUK, Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock etc)And then some women who are supposedly feminist like Catherine McKinnnon and Naomi Wolf who are opening sucking the lady dick. Surely some of you public feminists could go and get on THEIR cases instead of us fucking nobodies?I'd happily settle for women who are in the public eye already just telling the fucking truth instead of being mealy-mouthed.
(DIR) Post #9muv6exH8Q73TPqods by bluebeardsslayer@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T15:17:02Z
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"I will no longer tolerate excuses about anonymity and refusing to speak out in defense of women's sex-based rights (UNDER ONE'S OWN NAME!)" Well, I think that got some reactions. I've responded as to why I am anonymous online. I see other people have been using their own names with no kick back. That's great. I'm an absolute nobody, but I got put on a list for being doxxed and raped. Knowing what we know about the mental instability and narcissism together with the incel aspect of TRAs, women need to take risk assessments for themselves. Not tolerating 'excuses' is not guilt tripping at all. It's something a bit worse than that, especially given how strong the online hatred towards us is. I believe MM was really hurting yesterday and that's understandable. Those words have not been rescinded (yet) and while they stand, they do have an impact. @ninapaley @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9muvPtOnemOZlxtd2G by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T15:20:32Z
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@Iz We will never enforce that. It's a personal choice.
(DIR) Post #9muxAzIzcAnhehCV3w by JessSweetValleyHigh@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T15:39:04Z
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See I find this to be another really unfortunate way to phrase things. It reads that you think because youāre doing something publicly, that we must accept being told that our anonymity will no longer be tolerated in rather an authoritarian tone, because we āowe youā something. I find that almost manipulative the way itās phrased, even if itās not the intent. I wonāt have my fears or concerns dismissed by anyone, and I do not accept the idea that I must not criticise things certain people say because they perceive they do more or accomplish more for women the way theyāre advocating. Nobody is above anyone here, we donāt tell other women what risk they should or should not take and nobody is owed anything by other women. Thatās simply not the way to get things done. The combined efforts by all, are what makes these battles winnable, telling others off as if youāre in charge... less helpful @ninapaley
(DIR) Post #9muzxOTXXHSDWlLM0W by UnassignedatBirth@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T16:11:24Z
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@ninapaley @meghanmurphy I think 'tolerate' was the inflammatory word. Plus those who are anonymous online do campaign and speak about it in real life and have good reasons not to be public on social media. For someone who writes professionally, it was simply poor writing. Also, Julie didn't help with this tweet. Accusing women of cowardice is for being 'frightened' - her quotes, is low. There are many many reasons women might be frightened and why it might take them some time to speak out. Calling them cowards is downright mean.
(DIR) Post #9mv0tkNyESkeHCYzdA by SheChanges@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T16:21:55Z
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@meghanmurphy @MissScarlett @ninapaley Magdalen's message to women was to take action to fight for your rights. Magdalen's action was to make those video's. Nina Paley's action is creating anti-trans cartoons and illustrations and pro-woman animated features. Megan's is writing for Feminist Current and traveling to be interviewed publicly and speaking before governmental bodies (hurrah!!). Mine is to sing TERFY tunes posting them on SoundCloud, YouTube and Vimeo and to audio record Rad Fem books and post them publicly. So, take the actions you can and fucking stop arguing about social media anonymity vs. pseudonyms vs. real names. Just fucking DO SOMETHING.
(DIR) Post #9mv1jnY9iFKF9H9C1g by HellaDea@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T16:31:19Z
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@meghanmurphy i for one am beyond happy to have SPINSTER! its so nice to FINALLY have a social media site where where i dont get kicked off of. All these other sitea are anti womxxn and REAL FEMINISTS know this. The people who disagree are just males impostering womxxn.
(DIR) Post #9mv4mW29arFxYRAM9Q by Siouxsie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T17:05:26Z
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@meghanmurphy I'm one of those who de-anonymised on Twitter to honour Magdalen. It felt like a small thing I could do and as a SAHM with no employers to fear I weighed up the pro's and con's. I make no judgement about what anyone else does.To be honest the main reason I'm mostly anonymous online when discussing GC stuff is more about feeling a little inadequate. I'm not an academic, I have no notable public profile and rarely can I provide insightful analysis that hasn't already been done more eloquently elsewhere. From the outside looking in my life doesn't even look especially feminist.I did it because there is something powerful about seeing the faces of flesh and blood women saying no, not in our name. It is harder I feel to smear and dehumanise us en mass when we do that. Weirdly in the few hours since changing my profile on their I've been un de-boosted for the first time since joining up. A coincidence maybe but it's great to actually see my own tweets showing up in threads again. Not sure how long it will last.I think we can still all make a difference anonymous or not. One of the best pieces of consciousness raising I've read in recent times was Barracker's piece Pronouns are Rohypnol and I don't know her name or face.I also admire the women on the frontline who have risked and sometimes lost their support networks and livelihood for doing so. I understand why they have strong views on this and why martyrdom must feel utterly unjust and very lonely when they are far from the only people to hold pro-woman views in this climate.Despite all that it remains to be said that we are always stronger together than divided and bravery comes in many guises, in many words and deeds.ā¤ļø
(DIR) Post #9mv5Aw9c88ofW0IgyW by FondOfBeetles@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T17:09:53Z
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Iāve been pretty open on FB (although I donāt use it for public stuff very much anyway).Completely open in real life. And now the Twitterverse can try to get me the sack.Although, TBF, it wouldnāt have taken much digging to link my name with a location and a big university.I feel terrible for the two other women with the same name working there though. We ping misdirected emails around so Iām waiting to see if they receive random shouting that should have come to me. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mv7V9W6MEOEeuaOqe by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T17:35:56Z
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I have that person blocked too (possibly for a long time since I cannot remember why) and I go to check and I see they are a moderator???? This place is a shitshow.@meghanmurphy @Jennifer_Lee
(DIR) Post #9mv9uWUYH2sH3w5QgK by carterfelder@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T18:02:54Z
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Veganism is not an optional "lifestyle" choice for human benefits. It's a moral imperative for the animals. Veganism means leaving animals alone because they deserve not to be exploited and killed for mere taste or convenience. Everyone can live healthy on a well-balanced, plant exclusive diet. There is nothing in fiberless animal products which we cannot get from the massive, fiber-rich plant food kingdom. Why harm animals who are no different from the dogs and cats many of us love when we don't have to? @alex @Iz
(DIR) Post #9mvBIGeyt5tIrhqoz2 by Alltherainpromises@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T18:18:26Z
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Dude, you're a moderator? Wow. Your comment was just abusive and a personal attack. Yeah this place is cool. @Jennifer_Lee @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mvHWxgiJ5no5q3EkS by LiseMeitner@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T19:28:14Z
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it's been a good, necessary and interesting debate but there comes a time for, as we used to say in Boston, "EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP NOW" šš¤£ @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mvPol2QsNrJhsCsgS by mslise@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T21:01:10Z
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:( @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mvmstbfG910Nud1ns by VanBeeterfen@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T19:24:03Z
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Well said LangCleg. I think most women do a mix. In some spaces, mostly IRL we speak openly, we speak openly in ome online spces, and anon in other online spaces.Sometimes being anon helps us express arguments more emphatically than we could openly. And also, disagreements are good. If we all agreed on everything we would become stale and dogmatic, without capability of developing ideas. @LangCleg @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mvmsu0pkZ9FdyP82C by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
2019-09-14T19:31:30Z
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I am so impressed with how you all went attack dog on Canadas foremost feminist. For having a different opinion than your own.
(DIR) Post #9mvmsuPIHciKrpqfA0 by DorsetGirl@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T01:18:35Z
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It really wasn't about "having a different opinion". It was about the very peremptory tone of that opinion - "I will no longer tolerate excuses".MM may be Canada's foremost feminist but that doesn't make her our boss. I'm in the UK and I don't consider even the UK's "foremost feminist" - whoever that may be - would have the right to talk to me like that.Finally, it wasn't about attacking her; it was about defending ourselves against accusations of not speaking out, simply because we don't use real names online.@Sherri_Ingrey
(DIR) Post #9mw2dMsyEOGFpFLCTY by quixote@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T04:16:06Z
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@meghanmurphy I've read some of the responses and, yes, there's a bit of the you-talkin-'bout-me? feeling there.Having followed you on Feminist Current for years, I'd be gobsmacked if it turned out you were suggesting everyone go on a real name basis no matter at what cost.Of course you're not saying that! You're encouraging anyone *who can* to use real names.Which is, I'm equally sure, is what Magdalen meant too.I hadn't heard of her before I saw her terrible illness mentioned on @Glinner's site. To find someone who feels like a soul sister and lose her all in the space of a few weeks.... May her name be a blessing.
(DIR) Post #9mwXKsoIPQkhumouC8 by cyberwanderlust@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T10:00:07Z
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I published a great point about building TRUST with women before we post CALLS TO ACTION: https://spinster.xyz/@cyberwanderlust/posts/102795807039315068https://spinster.xyz/@cyberwanderlust/posts/102795868151330570And some of the talks with Mags in 2016. She was a great pal, but also a leader indeed. <3@alex @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mwfcIf2LjMae5Iz9U by anmre@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T11:32:54Z
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@alex @meghanmurphy framing one side as fears and the otherside as brave is either a distinct lack of insight to lived experience of people or a deliberate attempt to herd folk in a particular direction.We are not all young and naive and we are not footsoliders.The suggestion everyone expose themselves online is dangerous and one that the people suggesting it will not have to pay the price for.It also belies the reality many of us here are conected to people we can influence in the real world. This was supposed to be an area we could learn and work together. Teaching folk how to write submissions and the like. Pity.
(DIR) Post #9mwrgr2Rfw67sFBzxg by anmre@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T13:48:12Z
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@a7 @alex @meghanmurphy could be...it happens to political activists
(DIR) Post #9mx9EIbLurOm8V3NFg by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T17:04:39Z
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@alex @meghanmurphy Oh wow...a goody...a reward! A blue checkmark for revealing real names!!! Sounds like a good trade. I can't donate to you...I'm just a "ANON" you prefer "real names" I'm sure my ANON donations won't be as precious. Is this some sort of joke? Why are we in the middle of a "fediverse" that has many alt-right people? Sounds like you guys don't really care about us.So how much money $$$ do you think you'll make off of us?
(DIR) Post #9mxBOAFi0pnh2ulHqS by elizabeththeradicalfeminist@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T17:28:54Z
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work.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mxBpINJv7Iu3bG7EG by elizabeththeradicalfeminist@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T17:33:42Z
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Adult human females are adults, and each of us gets to decide how much and in what contexts it is safe for ourselves and our families for us to use our real names when doing feminist analysis and feminist work.No one has the right to shame or second guess these choices. People doing so have no idea what other feminist work other women are doing either online or in real life.Itās not appropriate to judge other women when you donāt actually know what they are doing, and itās never appropriate to shame or finger wag. No individual feminist is the arbiter of how feminist work should be done by other feminists.I wonder if anyone told those fighting the Nazis underground in WWII (such as the French Resistance) that they werenāt doing it right unless they told the Nazis their real names.@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mxDDt0bT8IYZuvHiy by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T17:49:28Z
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@Genie @meghanmurphy We are living with my parents and going deeper into debt every day to run this site so you can have a place to speak freely.
(DIR) Post #9mxH55J8luqvvveUXQ by Genie@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T18:32:42Z
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@alex @meghanmurphy I'm sure this website does not cost you that much. I've ran sites before with forums especially since this is basically a hosting site. You're only a month in.
(DIR) Post #9mxQ2rkB88oysFJdeS by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T20:13:08Z
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@Genie @meghanmurphy The site costs around $180/mo roughly, but me and MK are working on it 40+ hours a week with no other job and lots of expenses. It costs money to live.I've run forums too, but this is not that. The default server configuration doesn't work when you scale. To give you an idea of the type of problems we're solving I attached some diagrams created by @farblue We're defending the site from attackers, fixing bugs, designing new features, marketing, training mods, and just generally trying to move the site forward while preventing it from collapsing. It's a lot of work.And anyway, for the sake of this platform's longevity we *should* be profiting from it. Otherwise how else can we keep building it? We are trying to do so in the most ethical way possible - no ads, no selling of user data, just donations and pro features. Open to suggestions for ways we can improve.
(DIR) Post #9mxTRcrlsi4rpmMi8m by Yoterf@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T20:51:14Z
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Plenty of anonymous wimen help the cause far better than you cringingly twirling your hair throughout the whole of your Benjamin Boyce interview š¤·āāļø@meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mxXzsYiRV1qAO2b32 by basictaurus@spinster.xyz
2019-09-15T21:42:14Z
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@meghanmurphy Hey Meghan thanks for the clarification. <3
(DIR) Post #9mxsp73EJpJMxu1NAW by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T01:12:46Z
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asked the same of @spinster acct, as I could not find the info there anywhere. Didn't want to bother you directly but would love an answer to this too. @RadFemFatale @alex
(DIR) Post #9mxsp7NR6hTTyZTVfE by alex@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T01:35:37Z
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@ReSistingPink @spinster @RadFemFatale Go into your settings, then Verification and follow the instructions
(DIR) Post #9mxt7SiKW0lzMczkaO by ReSistingPink@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T01:38:56Z
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nice one- thanks a mill :blobsmilehappy: @alex @spinster @RadFemFatale
(DIR) Post #9mxy94KwcTfm6qdsQK by becc@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T02:35:14Z
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I gotta stay anon for now but one day I'll go public. As a single mom, I can't risk losing my kids because I can't pay my rent or my car insurance because I lost my public sector job. I'd love to be able flight publically but for now I'm comfortable with my decision. I will continue to plant seeds IRL whenever safe and possible. Thanks for your hard work and unwavering voice, @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9mxyQ3eWPu0UuUtsdE by becc@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T02:38:19Z
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I gotta stay anon for now but one day I'll go public. As a single mom, I can't risk losing my kids because I can't pay my rent or my car insurance. That will happen if I lose my public education sector job. I'd love to be able fight publically but for now I'm comfortable with my decision. I will continue to plant seeds IRL whenever safe to do so. Thanks for your hard work and unwavering, brave voice, @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9myo23dM1wshWCEOdU by DecayHeat@spinster.xyz
2019-09-16T12:16:38Z
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@alex , @farblue ,I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people underestimate scalability challenges. I have a very small technical experience of this and all I can say is, more power to you - I appreciate the work you're putting in.Will be heading on over to click the donate button once I'm out of work today.
(DIR) Post #9n3Vxx8dPaLUpWYTKa by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
2019-09-18T18:47:46Z
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Important message, Meghan. I'm standing up for the cause, understand those who are not able. I don't have terminal cancer. I can write letters and help the cause. I'd be disappointed if you left. I *almost left feminism in 1976 for same reason. @meghanmurphy
(DIR) Post #9n3aY7GbdB1sU7mbkO by MaidenMotherCrone@spinster.xyz
2019-09-18T19:39:05Z
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@meghanmurphy We have to pick battles we can win.If my workplace knew that I had anything to do with this platform, they could fire me purely on that basis - same with anyone here - because you'd be called transphobic by association, or you'd be transphobic for misgendering which we all do here.In work recently, we had a training session and our toilet situation was brought up. We have a women's and a men's. The men's is used less frequently because there are fewer men, and there are often long queues for the women's.One woke person said, "We could have gender neutral toilets," went on for a bit, and then said, "We could keep the men's and turn the ladies' into a gender neutral toilet."So I spoke up. I said that since the men's toilets is the less frequently used one anyway, and there are women who wouldn't feel comfortable sharing a toilet with men, it would make sense to keep the women's and make the men's gender neutral.I was the only one who said this.My manager agreed, and said if they do decide to go down the gender neutral route, that's how they would do it (although they're more likely to keep things as they are). I spoke up, I made a reasonable point coming from a sense of practicality and safety (without the "TERF" label hanging over my head which would have caused the same point to be taken very differently), and my point was taken on board - and I was able to do that precisely because I'm anonymous online.You can't win these sorts of battles if you're not there to do anything when issues like this come up.
(DIR) Post #9n791jacBpTfWuoBPM by Caffy67@spinster.xyz
2019-09-20T12:49:33Z
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Hi. I just read through some of the thread, and am appalled by the defensiveness. Sure, there are some women who can't or won't speak up. But I have met many women who could speak out, but don't. After reading your post, Meghan, and in light of losing the most awesome sister ever, Mags, I have put my real name up. I am posting on public! I am speaking out to others who don't know the score. I am participating with Women's Sex Based Rights Declaration and involved in a public meeting soon to go ahead in Brisbane. I know you, MM, have copped a hell of a lot of abuse for quite a while now from transactivists, so can understand why youwould call the sisters out. I too am calling them out. Your job, friends, whatever, will mean nothing if we lose all of our rights, and we don't have much time either. We need to push now. Thank you Meghan, you're one of the few that are strong enough to stand up and shout it from the rooftops!!! TW are NOT WOMEN!!! To everyone else... please, think about your priorities! Women's Rights, Children's safety from Sexualisation and pedophiles, or your nice quiet life of faux activism which won't last for much longer anyway.@meghanmurphy