Post 9mapDOnsaHWVwH7bKy by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
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(DIR) Post #9maiHxQD7JTumiHFT6 by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T21:19:08Z
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Co-founder of fake-feminist #Gab spinoff #Spinster calls on members to create alternative Mastodon accounts, and tells them what instances to target. Heads up.
(DIR) Post #9maidHAeswYC7JAUlc by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T21:23:00Z
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As well as this, showing some potential Pleroma site work:
(DIR) Post #9maijfrE0vtcQ0855s by lyliawisteria@octodon.social
2019-09-04T21:24:10Z
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@isolategab those are all fash instances. idgi?
(DIR) Post #9majgCNxEZlq67LRnk by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-04T21:34:47Z
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@isolategabQOTO? Oh no. What does @freemo think of this?
(DIR) Post #9majuKjWzdXA2iB33I by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-04T21:37:21Z
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@lyliawisteriaNo. That's the odd thing about it. QOTO is not a "fash instance" (unless you are using it as a smear term, then anything can be a "fash instance"), and the admin of QOTO has spoken poorly of spinster recently for their anti-trans stuff. @isolategab
(DIR) Post #9mak2MuOn0876d5l8C by icameheretoawoo@kiwifarms.cc
2019-09-04T21:38:49.112141Z
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@isolategab Thank god these evil Terf Gablins ain't targeting Kiwifarms.cc I don't think my poor Awoos could handle such an invasion.Awooworried.png
(DIR) Post #9makIXLJlN286HOPCa by gaja@social.libre.fi
2019-09-04T21:25:30.883647Z
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@lyliawisteria @isolategab thats the point, theyre asking people to sign up there so that you cant just block spinster and block them all
(DIR) Post #9makJi5vH35tjfkdqC by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-04T21:41:56Z
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@isolategab Wait, Quey as well? They block Gab (but spinster as far as I know). Does @snder know about this?
(DIR) Post #9makjv19qfpTLT1HWK by snder@quey.org
2019-09-04T21:46:39Z
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@masterofthetiger @isolategab Hm, Gab is blocked indeed but why Spinster thingie?See our list here: https://quey.org/about/blocksCan anyone share a reason why they block Spinster?
(DIR) Post #9makqiC1vdg1b6LPPs by snder@quey.org
2019-09-04T21:47:42Z
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@masterofthetiger @isolategab@todon.Why ‘Anti-Trans’? Can you share some evidence or such please?😊 if they do appear to be we also will block them ofcourse
(DIR) Post #9mal4Qv6wgnC53yPh2 by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-04T21:50:23Z
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@snderYou'd probably have to ask @isolategab or @isolategab. I do not know too much about Spinster. But I've heard from a few different people (and a few on Spinster itself showed these tendencies) that they are a group of radical feminists who are anti-trans.
(DIR) Post #9malFcSkN4Sz442Ypk by snder@quey.org
2019-09-04T21:52:23Z
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@masterofthetiger @isolategab Thanks for letting me know. I will do some research before I block anything. And also the quey community has to agree on this, I will put out a poll later :quey_1:
(DIR) Post #9malHm6NVIC5XUbaZU by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T21:52:47.250934Z
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@isolategab I wish I could make an account on soykaf, lol.He isn't wrong, though, it is a good idea to decentralize your presence. I prefer Opal's list, though: http://wowana.me/fediverse.xht
(DIR) Post #9malL03S5GgpgKm4mG by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-04T21:53:23.699439Z
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@isolategab Spinster is a "Gab spinout" but Gab is not a "Mastodon spinout"?
(DIR) Post #9malLM8rxo5yBVTiHA by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T21:53:27.231638Z
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@masterofthetiger @lyliawisteria This guy's life is calling everyone fascist and then begging for money. That's like 90% of his posts, he'll call people fash with no evidence.
(DIR) Post #9malVOr0jezBUWukQy by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T21:55:16.105315Z
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@snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab I wouldn't recommend blocking Spinster myself, I disagree with their politics and if you want a "safe space" community for trans people (for example), blocking them may make sense, but otherwise, they've seemed to be a pretty neutral contribution with some cool people joining too, like @ninapaley
(DIR) Post #9malWFbabj8r636gFs by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T21:55:23Z
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@alexa True that. I think he has shown bad faith enough elsewhere that I am skeptical that he is thinking of the good of #Spinster members.
(DIR) Post #9malZCOoz2fE1RXZGC by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T21:55:57.248155Z
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@isolategab I've talked to him before on here, I think we'll agree to disagree.
(DIR) Post #9malqhjviJEk96lFIW by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T21:59:02Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @snder@quey.org It isn't so much their politics, unless that would mean welcoming and amplifying anti-Trans speech. To me, that is a show stopper, right there and it also violates many instances content policies regardless of anything else.And for others, their being organized by, and promoted by, and federating Gab content will alone be disqualifying for many...
(DIR) Post #9mam4vcIurCpErybrc by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T22:01:40.288144Z
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@isolategab @masterofthetiger Yes, I'm talking about their anti-Trans speech. If you want to be a safe space for transgender people or others who would be harmed by that speech, go ahead and block it, but if you either trust your users more (as harassment isn't allowed on Spinster so if you block someone, they'll go away), or want to be exposed to more ideas and have interesting discussions, leave them unblocked.(and instances blocking others for not blocking Gab makes me feel :gummyangry:)
(DIR) Post #9mamwpjyyn6ceTGvom by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-04T22:11:26.245199Z
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@snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab Spinster is TERF turf. The admin @mk is cool, I've never seen anyone there do anything actually bad. There's the usual patriarchy-smashing posts, that's about as rowdy as I've seen anyone on Spinster get. They're not doing anything wrong, and they require civility: https://spinster.xyz/@mk/posts/102623138388674595 .@isolategab has an ideological impurity concern, not an actual bad-actor concern.
(DIR) Post #9maoeo1AqUdW0LqQl6 by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T22:30:31Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger So yes the anti-trans speech is specifically against many instances code of conducts; so that alone would be a disqualification for those admins who consider it against how they want members of their communities treated. My point is that is not just "politics." To many it is core ethics of how you treat one another.
(DIR) Post #9map0LXFQMWg2Q7Ob2 by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T22:34:27.720392Z
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@isolategab @masterofthetiger I've never seen someone harassed by a Spinster user, disagreeing with someone isn't bad treatment of them. Spinster actually allows disagreement: https://spinster.xyz/@mk/posts/102623138388674595And yes, anti-trans speech is against many CoC's, that's not a good argument for blocking them in general though.
(DIR) Post #9mapBsT3K50jMSedpA by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T22:36:29Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger I would be more than happy to send you screenshots. And weather federating and amplifying content that violates your own instance's community standards, that is a judgement call for each admin.
(DIR) Post #9mapDOnsaHWVwH7bKy by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-04T22:36:49.668566Z
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@isolategab @masterofthetiger Sure, send 'em
(DIR) Post #9mapE3yFWdBDcJHxh2 by DA70D6@kiwifarms.cc
2019-09-04T22:36:57.222053Z
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@icameheretoawoo @isolategab You missed your chance to spell that file Awooried and I'm disappointed in you.
(DIR) Post #9mapQzBOdcdWX2bGtM by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-04T22:39:17.817058Z
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@isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger > And for others, their being organized by, and promoted by, and federating Gab contentWew. Good thing @isolategab is on an instance that has blocked us, because "qoto.org and quey.org and pleroma.soykaf.com are being organized by Gab" got me all :reeEEE: 'd up, monica.
(DIR) Post #9maph32e3hRT8KALWy by 8636.Rude@kys.moe
2019-09-04T22:42:11.509219Z
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@p @isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger >Allowing federation to exist as it was intended.How could you do this??
(DIR) Post #9mapzF7FuBMrnGzxK4 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-04T22:45:29.285783Z
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@Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger I ain't even know what the deal with the person running this account *is*. I mean, check the bio: "Organizing for freedom of instances to associate with whom they wish". Pretty damn sure this is exactly the opposite of everything that account does, right down to the *name* of the account, and instances can already "associate with whom they wish".(For more lulz, check the bio to see the second half of that sentence.)
(DIR) Post #9marPRcs7FeE4lqPke by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-04T23:01:23Z
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@Rude @p @alexa @masterofthetiger The Fediverse was intended that every instance can choose what it federates.
(DIR) Post #9marWBqTBctR9zQAym by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-04T23:02:38.853974Z
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@isolategab @Rude @alexa @masterofthetiger shh nobody tell him he doesn't know
(DIR) Post #9marmGUdfopYCzsJs0 by a7@jpop.club
2019-09-04T23:05:32.425281Z
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@isolategab @masterofthetiger @alexa i have like 5 clone alts and 2 with different names @a7 @a7 @a7 @a7
(DIR) Post #9marsizechJSL1SjkO by a7@jpop.club
2019-09-04T23:06:43.002587Z
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@alexa @a7 @a7 @a7 @isolategab @masterofthetiger ya, i didnt even make a twitter until after this
(DIR) Post #9marwiNypAXBbzk9SK by a7@jpop.club
2019-09-04T23:07:26.262109Z
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@alexa @a7 @a7 @a7 @isolategab @masterofthetiger oh i see i guess its 6 now actually 7 @a7 @a7
(DIR) Post #9marzucLnrg4PtzQLQ by a7@jpop.club
2019-09-04T23:08:00.929956Z
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@a7 @a7 @a7 @a7 @a7 @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @a7 ok now you got all the clones to block
(DIR) Post #9masV3s3Rwbc5nBjPc by 8636.Rude@kys.moe
2019-09-04T23:13:37.058818Z
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@isolategab @masterofthetiger @alexa @p Every user can do that already.
(DIR) Post #9mavcwB8EVwIPkYgwS by DavidBond@qoto.org
2019-09-04T23:48:40Z
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you guys all sound like a bunch of freakin babies..
(DIR) Post #9maywBeBFH9Dkn14OO by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T00:25:46.472705Z
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@p @snder @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk> The admin @mk is coolOnly if you try to bend the definition of cool enough. She still has not replied to my question.
(DIR) Post #9mazQ3y4MRU0cmZ6W0 by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T00:31:10.495212Z
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@ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @p @snder "https://fedi.absturztau.be/notice/9luzWnkH20p0ngLd4KI mostly want to clarify the reasoning behind the discrimination in their TOS (racism against POS vs racism against everyone) and if they consider transwomen as women. I am personally a free speech extremist so I am into more free instances, but if they are going to go the stalin way of instance administration they may as well go balls deep without discriminating against certain groups and boosting others."
(DIR) Post #9mb0uCFGFbCmwCXUKu by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T00:47:49.454635Z
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@ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @p @snder I think they changed it and now it considers things like TERF and cunt a slur but not bitch and tranny.
(DIR) Post #9mb1CLE5b7iu0LdwCO by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T00:51:06.333614Z
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@ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @p @snder cunt is like bitch, it is also used a lot by Australians in everyday life, similar to saying "bro" for example.
(DIR) Post #9mb1SkVzLJKB4Mq5nE by mk@spinster.xyz
2019-09-05T00:54:04Z
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@ELR @masterofthetiger @isolategab @p @Mikoto @snder You can actually view our updated rules here. After the rules there's a link to our Moderation Handbook, which underwent some changes after lots of user feedback, including debate around this word specifically:https://spinster.xyz/about
(DIR) Post #9mb3cp3NWUsVwwO7pg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T01:18:18.387666Z
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@Mikoto @ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @snder I don't know, she might have blocked you before you asked. It was odd that other participants in that thread got replies and you did not, so I suspect that's the reason.From what I have seen (I can't speak for the admin, maybe she can answer your questions), it seems like trans people would not be on their list of protected groups, and given that they list "TERF" as a slur, consider porn and hookery exploitation, etc., I think that probably covers your questions. You can wander through her posts some, she's pretty up-front about things.So, really, I don't think it's a coverup or that she's ignoring you or doing the Torba thing, I think she's just blocked or muted you.
(DIR) Post #9mb3x2HC4RRKkdULpI by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T01:21:56.523325Z
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@p @ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @snder Nope, she gave me a boomer response (in the style of "geez, some people 🙄") sometime afterwards.Even if we ignore the terf thing there are still issues with the new TOS. Such as promoting violence against "non-human animals " is not ok but against humans is fine. Or how how threatening non-women for disagreeing with you is fine. etc
(DIR) Post #9mb53q4xuyROu4Zp2G by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T01:34:21Z
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@Rude @p @alexa @masterofthetiger And so can every instance. By design.
(DIR) Post #9mb5CQCTVKYLFQBKbI by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T01:35:55Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p Well, then you are free to find an instance whose federation choices you like. But each instance has freedom of association.
(DIR) Post #9mb5NUG4kz2h1F8tSC by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T01:37:55Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p That happens now by choosing an instance whose moderation they agree with. Or creating one.
(DIR) Post #9mb5VHJel9tfCDX4am by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T01:39:21.184191Z
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@Mikoto @ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @snder Yeah, I don't exactly like their rules, but they federate with (I think?) everyone, and I think that's better than having super permissive rules but hiding instance-level censorship from the users.
(DIR) Post #9mb5VXUAdpoXLSZhCa by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T01:39:23Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p It doesn't. You are free to choose where you want to pick as an instance, and each instance is free to choose it's federation policy.
(DIR) Post #9mb5fwfTrv6oLJpKsa by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T01:41:16.549047Z
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@p @ELR @isolategab @masterofthetiger @mk @snder I certainly agree with you. That being said I expect her to go full-Torba soon.
(DIR) Post #9mb5obGCpay2YR8EXQ by mk@spinster.xyz
2019-09-05T01:42:49Z
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@p @ELR @Mikoto @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab Hey just to be clear we have an entire rule about not promoting violence - it's not *just* not allowed against non-human animals. That's an *extra* thing in addition to not allowing promotion of violence against humans...... I'm not really sure how to make that more clear, but open to suggestions! > Glorification of any form of violence, even towards an oppressor class, is not allowed. If you see any promotion of violence on our instance, please report it. It is firmly against the rules no matter at whom it is directed. Thanks!
(DIR) Post #9mb654DgvccH0Io8rw by lyliawisteria@octodon.social
2019-09-04T21:27:25Z
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@gaja @isolategab but i already have all of those blocked, and assume most people do by now...?
(DIR) Post #9mb654RW6DfvhBHBQ0 by gaja@social.libre.fi
2019-09-04T21:28:49.762430Z
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@lyliawisteria quey and mstdn.io both pretend to be generalist instances and i know i didnt notice anything was up until a nazi started harassing me
(DIR) Post #9mb654ZfbuCI6T5h7w by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-09-05T01:45:47.833614Z
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@gaja @lyliawisteria dude you are a nazi
(DIR) Post #9mb6RzhbtFsjeajbHs by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T01:49:57.570468Z
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@mk @p @ELR @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab remove the "non-human" part and at "Glorification of any form of violence, even towards an oppressor class, is not allowed" add "including violence against animals". Explicitly saying if women includes transgirls in your rules would help. Also, reply to my questions, that would help with clarifying things even more.Anyway, your rules are a joke. Threatening men and non-white nationalism is ok, right? Denying the holocaust is bad because white nationalism but denying the nanjing massacre is ok because it is japanese nationalism, right?Did you remove the slurs thing by any chance?
(DIR) Post #9mb7lhfIlIADSScI1g by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:04:43.887207Z
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@isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude ...Just like every person is free to run a pressure campaign and rally a mob to demand servers defederate, call people Nazis baselessly.You are free to lie. You can give the wrong time when asked. You can sneak out of a lady's bedroom while she's asleep and give her a fake phone number. You're free to call everyone that passes by you on the street an asshole. You're free to be spiteful, bitter, and vindictive. You're free to wave around Westboro Baptist Church signs. You're free to cheat at games, completely foul up the bathroom without flushing, tell people to stop their chemo because all they need is the healing power of prayer, or slash your own throat in front of a park full of children. None of these things are illegal.Falling back on "But people are free to do it" when the criticism was "It's reprehensible" is deceptive and a weak answer. But you've got the freedom to give weak and deceptive answers as much as you like.(I know he can't hear me, I was just possessed by the Spirit of Ranting.)
(DIR) Post #9mb86lbZJDBDl4ukWe by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T02:08:30Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p No more like: communities have freedom of association, of what they wish to Federate. Of who they wish to associate with. That this is freedom for admins that can't be forced away from admins. And you are free to find instances that their moderation policies are what you want.
(DIR) Post #9mb8OVS26h9Ys2ufNg by mk@spinster.xyz
2019-09-05T02:11:43Z
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@Mikoto For some reason I can't reply to you directly, even though I just double-checked and I don't you blocked or muted... So sorry for replying on the wrong post.Anyways thanks, that's actually helpful feedback! I've updated the wording of that section both on our /about and in the mod handbook to be more clear.Also the list of examples is just that: examples. We specifically named things we've seen a lot of problems with on other Fedi servers - at least the primarily English-speaking ones. This is what is relevant to our community right now.And yes, after community feedback we decided to remove the section on slurs entirely, and rather than trying to police what is or is not a slur (seems to vary a lot by culture) focus on the broader category of "hate speech".Anyways, why are you more concerned with our rules than your own?@p @ELR @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab
(DIR) Post #9mb946LponalBeqdH6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-09-05T02:19:14.643934Z
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@p @isolategab @rude @alexa @masterofthetiger the lolcaust never happened
(DIR) Post #9mb95lsKuxn6GHqXjc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:19:33.791616Z
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@alexa @Rude @isolategab @masterofthetiger plz don't be too nice or i will have to hide under my desk thx
(DIR) Post #9mb9A7onHDO1TUGWhM by isolategab@todon.nl
2019-09-05T02:20:19Z
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@alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p Yes.
(DIR) Post #9mb9I5smME6HmtvgUi by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:21:47.421146Z
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@isolategab @Rude @alexa @masterofthetiger I thought he wasn't responding because I'd been blocked over there, but I guess it was just because he's an ass.x.png
(DIR) Post #9mb9Y4UFJYJM5n4aLA by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T02:24:38.574972Z
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@isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p "Hey, did you join the fediverse to do what was intended and federate with other instances tro create a free and open social media platform?""LOL NO I'M A BITCH WHO'LL BLOCK ANYTHING I DISAGREE WITH LOLOLOLOLOL"Go back to twitter.
(DIR) Post #9mb9wnOE1BNQJ32vI0 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:29:08.767152Z
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@alexa @Rude @isolategab @masterofthetiger :shiggy:
(DIR) Post #9mbA0D1t99TahAE4uG by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2019-09-05T02:29:45Z
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@isolategab Isn't true that you actually work for Andrew Torba to generate a stir about Gab? How much is he paying you? 😠 @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p
(DIR) Post #9mbA7pmfSNLiuvk6Lo by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:31:08.461534Z
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@Kro @isolategab @Rude @alexa @masterofthetiger They appear to spend a lot of time taking screenshots of themselves talking shit at Brands that are within three hops of Gab.This shit just validates Gab's persecution complex.
(DIR) Post #9mbAGPJJFnyFPw6AS0 by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T02:32:39.579456Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger >TheyHe.
(DIR) Post #9mbALD7E1PN32kjizI by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T02:33:33.173368Z
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@mk @p @ELR @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab> For some reason I can't reply to you directlyShould have used pleroma instead :blobcatgiggle2: >I've updated the wording of that section both on our /about and in the mod handbook to be more clear.Nicely done, I think that it is much clearer now. I am actually impressed as I did not think that spinster would take feedback from the community.> Also the list of examples is just that: examplesFair enough. My question is, would you ban non-violent threats against men or transgirls?> And yes, after community feedback we decided to remove the section on slurs entirely, and rather than trying to police what is or is not a slur (seems to vary a lot by culture) focus on the broader category of "hate speech".I certainly support this move. It is better to judge on intent.> Anyways, why are you more concerned with our rules than your own?I don't have any issues with the rules of my instance. I would not be here if I did.
(DIR) Post #9mbAQWXrD79ykcj8fw by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2019-09-05T02:34:30Z
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@isolategab Don't be fooled people! This fraud works for Gab! @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p
(DIR) Post #9mbAVaMiQyoy2zvfu4 by quaylessed@pleroma.quaylessed.icu
2019-09-05T02:35:25.824817Z
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@p @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger it's like the six degrees of Kevin bacon thing but exponentially more gay and retarded
(DIR) Post #9mbAYXsc8E4XCvGEWu by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:35:58.110698Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger I don't know if he's a dude or not. I imagine he's a dude.
(DIR) Post #9mbAc9UwiyEkkNuUjo by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T02:36:36.954834Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger It's always a dude. Also better masculine default than use a plural noun for a singular entity.
(DIR) Post #9mbAgE0tsVWzuSnZWy by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:37:21.380339Z
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@terryenglish @isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude It's that Cernovich thing all over again!
(DIR) Post #9mbB5FGSMeYH1r0Obw by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:41:52.696828Z
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@quaylessed @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger Kruschev said that most people compared the Allied deaths to the Axis deaths to see which side was winning, but Stalin added them together to see if *he* was winning.I kinda feel like that about this dumb thing except that the guy is causing collateral damage to fedi. Reversing an instance-block is pretty rare, you never see it.
(DIR) Post #9mbB982dA3grmlOG1I by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:42:34.809117Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger Shakespeare, man. We done did this.
(DIR) Post #9mbBDga2gjya43BvFY by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T02:43:22.424199Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger We did do this, he can eat my whole ass. Faggot couldn't even spell his own name.
(DIR) Post #9mbBPgcENnnZeHwAxE by JapanAnon@pawoo.net
2019-09-05T02:45:33Z
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@p @alexa @Rude @quaylessed @Kro @masterofthetiger @isolategab Isolate IsolateGabThen Isolate those who Isolate IsolateGab
(DIR) Post #9mbBhHqpCCj23U9jfc by mk@spinster.xyz
2019-09-05T02:48:44Z
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@Mikoto Awesome, glad we're finding some common ground on a few of these things :)> My question is, would you ban non-violent threats against men or transgirls?I hope this doesn't come off as sea-liony, but can you give an example of what this would be? Any sort of threat I can think of that is non-violent would violate one of our other rules (ex. doxxing, stalking, harassment). Like I guess if someone says, "If you keep talking, I'm going to take a dump and name it after you!" that is definitely rude and technically a threat... I guess...? But we would allow that against anyone - man, woman, trans or not. That's just shit talking.We also apply our rules evenly against people regardless of their identity (woman, trans, etc). So harassment or threatening of a user who is trans would be treated exactly the same as harassing or threatening a user who is not. We have no way of knowing someone's real sex or identity anyways, so it would be silly to even try to do otherwise. @p @ELR @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab
(DIR) Post #9mbBmrmX28sWwMoC12 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:49:45.705726Z
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@alexa @Rude @masterofthetiger @terryenglish I saw that. I didn't think fedi could contain such cringe, but people are still running Mastodon.Also they have some posts that are screenshots of their other screenshot posts.
(DIR) Post #9mbCC1uyU6YZcIkxl2 by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:54:18.568276Z
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@isolategab Where does this say anything about targeting anyone? Oh i get it you're taking tranny hormones n that's making you crazy. Just chill nibba
(DIR) Post #9mbCE2w1fsfdLlD4Fc by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:54:40.424804Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger It's an anonymous person, I think it's a dude, but I don't know, so sometimes I've been using singular-they. Wikkypeeja has "Eche on in þer craft ys wijs." as an example from 1382, it predates modern English. I think it's safe to say it's correct to use singular-they.
(DIR) Post #9mbCIUxJR5h5PfvzZg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:55:28.672251Z
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@JapanAnon @alexa @Rude @quaylessed @Kro @masterofthetiger @isolategab What do we do with the people that isolated the people that isolated #IsolateGab?
(DIR) Post #9mbCLt2YLYfEyk08tk by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T02:56:03.271367Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger I don't care how old the usage is. Unless you fucking speak like you're in those times entirely, you're just picking and choosing what existed back then to keep a bad rule in place.
(DIR) Post #9mbCWe9i1lhy05Tm9g by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T02:58:02.126681Z
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@mk @Mikoto @ELR @snder @masterofthetiger @isolategab > if someone says, "If you keep talking, I'm going to take a dump> That's just shit talking.:elonsmile:
(DIR) Post #9mbCtYeIfPuvaAiFyy by se7en@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T03:02:10.569800Z
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@a7 @alexa @Rude @masterofthetiger @p @terryenglish Remember the short where they joined Skull and Bones, but didn't call it Skull and Bones? Classic times
(DIR) Post #9mbD59FguyRwI3jFwm by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T03:04:15.942888Z
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@alexa @a7 @Rude @masterofthetiger @p @terryenglish is it modded? :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #9mbDAHjSofDO2U6WVE by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T03:05:11.572587Z
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@alexa @Rude @a7 @masterofthetiger @p @terryenglish which mods? :blobcat0_0:
(DIR) Post #9mbDHLhUSdt8NCY8Ei by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T03:06:28.549380Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger The rule still exists, though. It never stopped existing. I pointed out how old it is because if it's been part of English for 600 years, it's probably safe to say it's in there deep. I do not feel the need to avoid singular-they whether or not people write "I am a they." in their Twitter bios. Imma keep doing what I do until I have a good reason to stop.
(DIR) Post #9mbDlwm1Blfs2aG2AC by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T03:11:58.296988Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger It exists because it's lazy, not because it's good. Since lazy idiots outnumber those who care, it lives on. It's OK though; the stupid and lazy (you) can continue this tradition of muddled language to save the few precious thoughts your brain can afford. I'll continue to shit on it.
(DIR) Post #9mbEqizHyKCmgcJ5cm by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T03:24:04.449407Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger It's not lazy to reflect unknowns by using vague language; it's correct. Being too vague and not being vague enough will both give the listener an impression of what you know that does not reflect reality.How would you prefer to refer to a hypothetical person? Or a person whose gender you don't know?"Someone drank the last of the milk!""Did he or she throw away the carton?"
(DIR) Post #9mbEsCUHmG4QT6Vd4a by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T03:24:20.148523Z
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@alexa pls resbond@p @a7 you like minecrap too?
(DIR) Post #9mbF5g1pFw2dqvchmK by Mikoto@fedi.absturztau.be
2019-09-05T03:26:46.179586Z
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@alexa @a7 @p I want to host a modded fedi server, w-would you join? :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #9mbFJaMX7Qn6KlwPjM by Olivia@ms-olive.club
2019-09-05T03:29:15.848017Z
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@alexa @Mikoto @a7 @p the server is pretty dead now tbh
(DIR) Post #9mbFZMhFhCTUaF9lo0 by Olivia@ms-olive.club
2019-09-05T03:32:07.473120Z
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@alexa @Mikoto @a7 @p people stopped playing
(DIR) Post #9mbFd0oUzyYZsAHkTg by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T03:32:46.253408Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger Just say he. My issue is with plural mixing with singular. There has been more than one instance where I've had to ask for clarification because some idiot referred to a singular entity within a possible group as "they". Had that person used he, the language would have flowed from earlier discussion. Either way I'm going to stop responding to this. People who defend laziness simply waste time.
(DIR) Post #9mbFou0i7NEmFSfPKi by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T03:34:56.982103Z
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@Mikoto @a7 @alexa Haven't played it. I don't do those. If multiple people are playing the game and they are not standing next to me at the cabinet or their controller cable isn't plugged into the same SNES, I don't play it.
(DIR) Post #9mbFrrPAGIX92IW1M8 by Olivia@ms-olive.club
2019-09-05T03:35:28.055479Z
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@alexa @Mikoto @a7 @p i don't play anymore as well lol, WoW has managed to take over my life
(DIR) Post #9mbGxYL2AE0tarrU6i by JapanAnon@pawoo.net
2019-09-05T03:47:42Z
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@p @alexa @Rude @quaylessed @Kro @masterofthetiger @isolategab shit, this is harder than I thought
(DIR) Post #9mbGzi66qlhCRNuSRs by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T03:48:06.483766Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger Singular-they has existed since before anyone undertook describing the rules of English grammar. "He" implies you're certain of the gender; you may not be. Context should indicate whether it's a singular-they or not, but language has quirks, it always will.> People who defend laziness simply waste time.Remember a few posts ago when I said that we'd done this before and you said you would always do this?
(DIR) Post #9mbH1ZUBq4HyJN3oRs by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T03:48:24.330701Z
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@JapanAnon @p @alexa @Rude @quaylessed @masterofthetiger @isolategab Teach those people japanese.
(DIR) Post #9mbHAZsbkBNI8gmByi by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T03:50:03.421648Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger Please do not lie as a taunt. At no point did I say that.image.png
(DIR) Post #9mbIAqZdm9LDrwb3xI by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T04:01:19.546591Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger I didn't lie, you said you'd continue to shit on it: https://robo.super-niche.club/objects/0a40e22d-258c-4acb-bcaf-20b55156120a . And I wasn't taunting you, just ribbing you, my dude. Just bustin' yer balls, friend. Just giving you shit, :liquidocelot: BROTHER.
(DIR) Post #9mbImBE3xGc6dPJ1E0 by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T04:08:01.980061Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger I did continue for a good number of posts. Sorry you lost. :theunbullied:
(DIR) Post #9mbNhXcRllBKPQJoeW by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T05:03:13.735007Z
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@alexa @Rude @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p RIP
(DIR) Post #9mbORNHoWDLNgQWT3o by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T05:11:32.568464Z
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@p @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetigerMost_contradictions_in_one_bio_…
(DIR) Post #9mbPFb4LY4r6uQAgOu by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-05T05:20:36Z
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@alexaI just woke up to a huge mess... Does anyone have a short summary? You wrote a lot... @Rude @Kro @p @isolategab
(DIR) Post #9mbPdkLogtJye6rGy0 by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T05:24:59.034679Z
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@isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p Until we get blotted off the face of the earth like what I thought happened this morning for those three hours of darkness. "Choose your own instance" becomes "make your own social media network" becomes "make your own web hosting service" becomes "make your own payment processor" becomes "make your own currency" becomes "make your own government"Except we did all those things. And we're still having to fight for every inch of it everyday because of cowards like this who think user-level rights are an intrinsic wrong.
(DIR) Post #9mbQ3OjXgb3988BfhA by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T05:29:35.247263Z
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@masterofthetiger @alexa @Rude @p @isolategab Yeah, basically I think using the plural "they" to describe one person is wrong, even as a vague stand-in. @p disagreed but is a faggot so he was wrong and I won. Also something about this anti-gab dude being a bitch and acting like any person who refuses to denounce some shitty instance is hitler.
(DIR) Post #9mbR3n9Uzw6uok51AO by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-05T05:40:53Z
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@KroOh okay. I disagree with the usage of "they" as singular, and would prefer that "you" was differentiated between singular and plural as well. @isolategab @alexa @Rude
(DIR) Post #9mbRQH8eBrigBmP1NI by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T05:44:57.307067Z
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@masterofthetiger @isolategab @alexa @Rude Good, goooooooood.
(DIR) Post #9mbRVdao8LVvHG8CMS by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-05T05:45:54Z
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@KroBut what's the alternative for a singular, gender neutral pronoun? @isolategab @alexa @Rude
(DIR) Post #9mbRg8MSajqlbHQQsa by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T05:47:48.586980Z
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@masterofthetiger @isolategab @alexa @Rude I just use masculine default. Alternatively, "it". That actually is popular in usage in some areas. For example "Your dog is so cute! I can just pet it forever!" I've seen people refer to babies as "it" too. But of course use it on adults and suddenly it's too dehumanizing. Bunch of crybabies can't let go of some made up stigma around a neutral word.
(DIR) Post #9mbTs4a0g0SVFuaG6C by billstclair@kiwifarms.cc
2019-09-05T06:12:23.336477Z
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To: @isolategab cc: @p @Rude @alexa @masterofthetiger Yep. You’re allowed to be stupid. Physical law will ensure that you suffer the consequences. And I will applaud when it does.
(DIR) Post #9mbkXtgHBfmqslTpGC by cj@mastodon.technology
2019-09-05T09:19:00Z
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@snder FWIW Alex Gleason (founder of Spinster) is the same individual who started the "Tusky is unfree software" in the fdroid forum. Which required lots of energy to correct from myself and others. There I think he hints at why he calls it unfree and mentions "marginalized feminists" who are really people that think trans people cannot be women.@masterofthetiger
(DIR) Post #9mbl9VmySumJmqY6Sm by dragon@lesbian.solutions
2019-09-05T09:25:56Z
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@isolategab lmfao they're all defederated instances anyway
(DIR) Post #9mble60KNk1unJNXVY by Pyretta@afterlife.masto.host
2019-09-05T09:31:27Z
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@isolategab haaaa, all defederated by reasonable people anyway, because *all those instances are already known for hosting fash*
(DIR) Post #9mbof86INCwZRpM2jo by 0xDEADBEEF@stereophonic.space
2019-09-05T10:05:21.290388Z
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@isolategab “Fake feminist” — Oh, get fucked, gatekeeper.
(DIR) Post #9mc5Cu9SLAI5IXxaHQ by billstclair@kiwifarms.cc
2019-09-05T13:10:44.380170Z
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@masterofthetiger @Kro @isolategab @alexa @Rude Texans to the rescue (for “you”). “Y’all” is singular. “All y’all” is plural.As for a gender neutral personal pronoun, “they” has that title, though it still hurts my ears. The French have “on”, and I suppose we could use “one”, but it isn’t the same.
(DIR) Post #9mcRh0cP3j132AGARk by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:22:41.678800Z
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@Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger :idiaminlol:
(DIR) Post #9mcS8hR5yLBLeJAshU by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:27:41.945774Z
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@Kro @alexa @Rude @isolategab @masterofthetiger Pretty sure theres.life blocks freezey peaches and anyone that allows porn.
(DIR) Post #9mcSFZ6bLLuVq6rWts by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:28:56.404159Z
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@PorkCow @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger :brandt:
(DIR) Post #9mcSInR4WL7b9VyhZg by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:29:31.430477Z
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@masterofthetiger @alexa @Rude @Kro @isolategab "The internet is terrible, but only because there are people using it."
(DIR) Post #9mcSR2KL2SMXebl2WW by p@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:31:00.794905Z
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@Kro @masterofthetiger @Rude @alexa @isolategab IT'S ON NOWgotime.mp4
(DIR) Post #9mcTEi9sIe4ha4YApE by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T17:39:59.447569Z
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@a7 @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p It's the context of having the gender be known that makes it retarded. Wrong: "Bruce chopped their penis off"Right: "Bruce chopped his penis off"
(DIR) Post #9mcTNLS85VZ3lcCo3U by quaylessed@pleroma.quaylessed.icu
2019-09-05T17:41:32.870345Z
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@a7 @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p I remember the good old days when nobody gave a shit about what trannies said
(DIR) Post #9mcWev8103FLCLry4m by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T18:18:20.542621Z
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@a7 @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p Akshuuallllyyy yes. We have gendered pronouns in romance languages. At least in English we don't use gendered pronous for everything, only things that have inherent gender, so be glad you don't speak Spanish or French. You can use whatever weirdo gay newspeak you want but don't try to pretend it's normal.
(DIR) Post #9mcXq8HsVz899MOR7Y by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T18:31:34.425532Z
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@a7 @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p I haven't read this book, but in the rest of the world it sounds weird to say bruce chopped their penis off. If you use "their" for singular, how do you distinguish plural pronouns then? Or do you want to reduce the accuracy of the language. That's really the goal of the far left newspeak, the desctruction of language. Elimination of concepts by eliminating the vocabulary. Unfortuantely it won't work.
(DIR) Post #9mcYDM0zdrFMNzZHiy by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2019-09-05T18:35:46.230775Z
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@a7 @Kro @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p I didn't stop any conversation. I jumped in after you all were already discussing gender pronouns.Only problem is you're putting the cart before the horse. Give it a few thousand years then after we evolve into sexless robots we'll get rid of the gender pronouns (except for animals and stuff that still has gender)
(DIR) Post #9mcdbmM5p09eQQvb5U by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T19:36:10.858655Z
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@a7 @meowski @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @p Correct, you're lazy and stupid. I am not. I'll continue to complain no matter how much you pretend it's only because of trannies.
(DIR) Post #9mcf9JcXGNeN6dArXE by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T19:53:27.847694Z
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@a7 @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @meowski @p Correct, you're autistic too.
(DIR) Post #9mcfK5czcyvitUWezQ by quaylessed@pleroma.quaylessed.icu
2019-09-05T19:55:24.503989Z
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@Kro @a7 @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @meowski @p the stupid one is the person trying to change commonly accepted speech to impose the will of a bunch of mentally ill sexual deviants who make up less than one percent of the overall population
(DIR) Post #9mch8GYBOOcbCclWaW by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2019-09-05T20:15:41Z
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@isolategabTorba shill! For someone who allegedly hates Gab so much you sure talk about them an awful lot. @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p
(DIR) Post #9mchQ8AlHOF0QqKSuW by terryenglish@social.librem.one
2019-09-05T20:18:54Z
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@isolategab @alexa @masterofthetiger @Rude @p
(DIR) Post #9mchZSRPI6zdtqYv6O by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T20:20:34.322032Z
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@quaylessed @a7 @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @meowski @p Again with the false assumption. I've always argued against it. Who knows, maybe i'm one of those "annoying english teachers".
(DIR) Post #9mchb6PUAm3y9QRpGi by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T20:20:54.182834Z
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@a7 @Rude @alexa @isolategab @masterofthetiger @meowski @p Defenitely autistic.
(DIR) Post #9mchrRWbR6fAGqZJVA by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-05T20:23:51Z
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@KroIs that neant as an insult?@meowski @isolategab @a7 @alexa @p @Rude
(DIR) Post #9mcuv6DyJl5JRpUBiC by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-05T22:50:10.957008Z
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@masterofthetiger @meowski @isolategab @a7 @alexa @p @Rude No, fact.
(DIR) Post #9mdSYejLFwLsFOd2VE by masterofthetiger@theres.life
2019-09-06T05:07:05Z
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@KroBut you mean it in a bad way. Right? @meowski @isolategab @a7 @alexa @p @Rude
(DIR) Post #9mdVdYJ0s02FdFL8iG by Kro@robo.super-niche.club
2019-09-06T05:41:35.877434Z
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@masterofthetiger @meowski @isolategab @a7 @alexa @p @Rude Sure why not.