Post 9mC4RB6eUQOYMtw5tw by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
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 (DIR) Post #9mC32J8XObdW53OY4m by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:43:53.815866Z
       
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       "well, we live in a post-Gab, post-KiwiFarms fediverse"yeah?we live in a post-9/11 world, does that make the USA Patriot act ok?mob mentality like this will simply ruin everything we have built together.  if you want to block instances that have usage patterns that violate your own rules, fine, but blocking instances for not buying into "you're with us or you're against us" mentality?  that's bad praxis and everyone knows it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3NMsOgejBlBt6Ei by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-23T23:46:20Z
       
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       @kaniini Sorry but not blocking KF/gab related sites just lets them have access to more people they can harm.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3NN7dlyvAWT1Gzo by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:47:41.192196Z
       
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       @Laurelai and why do they get this access?  hint: it's a technical problem, not a social problem.  much as you cannot solve social problems with technical solutions, you can't solve technical problems with social solutions.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3VAJNHqIV6jDxqK by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
       2019-08-23T23:49:08.001793Z
       
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       @kaniini @Laurelai social problems have social solutions
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3cvxkWFOYvEoV3Q by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-23T23:48:23Z
       
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       @kaniini We dont have the actual power to solve the technichal issue and the people who do seem to not want to. So all we can do is what we are capable of.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3cwHxJ7YfvuGdY8 by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:50:30.700480Z
       
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       @Laurelai yes we actually *do* have the capability to solve the technical issue: authenticated object fetches.  they exist today, you just have to switch them on.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3kc3YPkrxV5BrBg by a7@skippers-bin.com
       2019-08-23T23:51:40.412Z
       
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       @kaniini@pleroma.site @Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org na i can just keep making accounts on various instances just to watch your guys butthurt, the real solution is to grow thicker skin and stop being a bunch of emotional toddlers.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3qePoYYtqYQTuoC by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-23T23:51:06Z
       
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       @kaniini Does mastodon actually have this feature? Nobody has told the rest of us?
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC3qeqkwORztz5Qno by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:52:58.126784Z
       
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       @Laurelai yes.  it is in Mastodon 2.9 and later.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC47sdYvwU3aL7yVs by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-23T23:54:20Z
       
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       @kaniini Ok where is it turned on because the admin menu has no such option
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC47svHs2f6TJQ88m by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:56:06.158094Z
       
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       @Laurelai AUTHENTICATED_FETCH=true env variable.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC4RB6eUQOYMtw5tw by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-23T23:57:48Z
       
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       @kaniini So its not in the admin control panel, its not documented and you are mad people dont know about it or what it does?
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC4RBQVIcH5MTDwqO by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-23T23:59:34.254254Z
       
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       @Laurelai no, i am "mad" (i'm not even upset about it, they can do what they wish to do) that somebody told me that if i don't block [list of instances], they are going to block mine.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC4kA7kMlcip8V5W4 by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-24T00:00:12Z
       
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       @kaniini And people do that for reasons. Find the reasons. Its not because they are mean people who are bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC4kAOlLVEbfuSg2S by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-24T00:02:59.401193Z
       
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       @Laurelai people can do whatever they want to do.i don't care if they block my instance or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC580ZVX6209Er7z6 by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-24T00:04:14Z
       
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       @kaniini And like according to the open issues related to this https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/339 https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/9849It hasnt actually been implemented yet? So?
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC581G2yw3iHAl6I4 by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-24T00:07:19.551190Z
       
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       @Laurelai https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/pull/11291
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC5LQjBb28J2Bmba4 by alexa@fedi.absturztau.be
       2019-08-24T00:09:46.021362Z
       
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       @Laurelai @kaniini That doesn't mean those reasons aren't bad, illogical reasons (which they are).
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC5avQdjXJ6axUraq by Laurelai@mastodon.starrevolution.org
       2019-08-24T00:10:58Z
       
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       @kaniini Such great software i had that entire domain blocked and still
       
 (DIR) Post #9mC5avkqWPTDbcx05Y by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-08-24T00:12:33.536343Z
       
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       @Laurelai yeah?  and if you require authenticated fetch, then it will ensure they can never have the post. :)
       
 (DIR) Post #9mCn1MPkJv4TqbvkX2 by tomas@social.umeahackerspace.se
       2019-08-24T08:18:50+00:00
       
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       @kaniini The comparison isn't quite right. While I can block obnoxious gabber and kiwitards, I can't block the US giving itself the ability to kidnap and hold me or anyone else in the world indefinitely without trial (I do agree some of the rhetoric over this in parts of the fediverse is overstaying its welcome)