Post 9m8EJneSFGvUI2Rb5k by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
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(DIR) Post #9m89hXgEmInjw2mPpY by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T02:39:44.654379Z
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Hedon: Most thicc open source game.Yuffa-372886-Serious_Zan.png
(DIR) Post #9m8Bg4uQSl9gK0qWAq by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2019-08-22T03:01:51.524047Z
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@Dolus wait? is it open source?
(DIR) Post #9m8CgUGsGd0Iw26Zoe by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:13:10.847010Z
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@dirb Doom engine. So GPL.
(DIR) Post #9m8CnHVe75yFNlFon2 by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2019-08-22T03:14:22.616163Z
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@Dolus yes, but the assets aren't
(DIR) Post #9m8Cpdrfy4LLIMgTOi by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:14:50.084649Z
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@dirb Even Stallman says the assets don't have to be.
(DIR) Post #9m8DFr2VbhYTgXFZOC by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2019-08-22T03:19:31.476884Z
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@Dolus yes, but it would be like saying morrowind is also open source because there is a open source engine
(DIR) Post #9m8DNjGCPiT1sJPOTo by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:20:59.680345Z
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@dirb It's open source. Just not Free Culture. These are tangentially related things, but they are different with different set of considerations. Even with non-free assets, you still have the four freedoms RMS lists off.
(DIR) Post #9m8DyrXUb06mGZCi24 by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2019-08-22T03:27:40.348296Z
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@Dolus but it would be the same game without the assets. you just need to swap the assets on them to get a total different game, that the point of those engines. it would be almost like saying that web games are open source because the "engines" they are running on are open source
(DIR) Post #9m8E7u3Qc8OcfmS7Ye by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:29:19.897323Z
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@dirb Except in the case of the GPL the Hedon dev has been releasing everything besides the assets. Even scripts. You could always replace the assets. Hell, I think you could replace half of them with Free Doom assets.
(DIR) Post #9m8EGor9JG9n9pxch6 by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:30:42Z
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@Dolus @dirb Hedon sounds like Hexen. I dont know every derived game of Doom but how is it?
(DIR) Post #9m8EJneSFGvUI2Rb5k by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:31:29.382257Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb It's less Hexen and more Metroid Prime in the Doom engine but in a magic punk setting.
(DIR) Post #9m8EROOS2Qz8GnZy2S by dirb@social.beepboop.ga
2019-08-22T03:32:48.431388Z
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@Dolus I didn't about the scripts tho. I think when stallman say that he was just referring to graphics and music, I don't know his stance on 3d models a maps tho
(DIR) Post #9m8ERqIkHF3epD7o24 by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:32:45Z
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@Dolus @dirb sound interesting. I have no problem with propietary assets. Every assets for doom engines could be created or edited by free software and that is like "free as in freedom" assets.
(DIR) Post #9m8EVnPcxb8b1VEGH2 by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:33:39.493724Z
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@dirb He would say that, at most, those things should be share-able. But he's more concerned with the code being open than the assets.
(DIR) Post #9m8FMCbKYPzwCegz5c by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:42:55Z
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@dirb @Dolus I am not on doom assets creation but quake games requires also programming in quakeC to be able to use these assets and its not part of it. No idea how assets are built on doom based games
(DIR) Post #9m8Fiij3nPeyCt2rx2 by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:47:02Z
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@dirb @Dolus I mean, its not just "maintain engine, change assets"
(DIR) Post #9m8FlTUmsUqdq8gNwe by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:47:41.846093Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb Doom is even simpler.
(DIR) Post #9m8Fwb0VI4bsK1owXQ by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:49:33Z
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@Dolus @dirb how "position of monsters, attack type of every monster, points of power in each thing, etc" are set?
(DIR) Post #9m8G118S5Xm2W1e9y4 by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:50:30.337529Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb I have not fucked around with the Doom engine since 2005. You'll have to ask some people with fresher memories than mine.
(DIR) Post #9m8G8oHhkdAIyagrwm by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:51:44Z
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@Dolus @dirb just give me an idea at least like "its modifing the engine" or "eureka blablabla has form to embeded some action scripts in the map"
(DIR) Post #9m8GDSVU9DJSsjLwPY by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T03:52:45.079727Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb It's debatable if you could even call GZDoom the Doom engine anymore it's been so heavily modified.
(DIR) Post #9m8GGcwBp58M6JM2FM by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:53:07Z
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@Dolus @dirb fucking @shit did you make a map in eureka or something? I remember you were or was other, I am not sure
(DIR) Post #9m8GQje7jeEdnqixdY by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:54:58Z
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@Dolus @dirb yeah, I know that part. But I am interested on diferences between games old games specifically. If scripts are embeded maybe it could be possible someone made a retrocompatible game engine with the possibility to do games like its made in quake engine or other shit
(DIR) Post #9m8GVcwi4e8iTEkaAq by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-22T03:55:51Z
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@Dolus @dirb but i want know only with traditional tools for original engine
(DIR) Post #9m8OiXhRgpAbb7HQXI by dwaltiz@pleroma.soykaf.com
2019-08-22T05:27:58.303668Z
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@Dolus ＦＵＴＡ
(DIR) Post #9m8UGO26dWTlEWtwQ4 by Dolus@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T06:30:09.218229Z
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@dwaltiz Yuffa*
(DIR) Post #9m8yKY3mIOF27AaGH2 by shit@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T12:07:03.452203Z
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@mela_sapiensyea i made like 60 doom maps@dirb @Dolus
(DIR) Post #9m8yiDtwtcdgXnH8lM by shit@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T12:11:19.947568Z
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@mela_sapiensu just add ur own graphics to ur wad with the right filenames@Dolus @dirb
(DIR) Post #9m8z9obgXBfyCctDLE by shit@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T12:16:19.051265Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb @Dolus for changing how monsters attack its easiest to do it with zdoom using decorate. but the old school way is using dehacked
(DIR) Post #9m9u3IQGFU4CFfA56O by shit@pl.smuglo.li
2019-08-22T22:53:49.656495Z
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@mela_sapiens @dirb @Dolus tbh u dont wana use traditional tools for doom editing. they are old as hell dos tools. like deu. not easy to make maps with that it takes forever cus u have to set everything like even wat sectors are on each side of every linedef and u have to do everything manually. modern editors are much easier and do half of the annoying confusing shit for you
(DIR) Post #9mA6vrbqq6uKTAMwW8 by mela_sapiens@melalandia.tk
2019-08-23T01:14:48Z
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@shit @Dolus @dirb just make an abstraction to my post...