Post 9l8iwET73B2WSqaYSG by yam655@sonomu.club
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(DIR) Post #9l5TKY7VbMtwfkzi64 by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T20:50:09Z
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I've been sorting all my music ideas, started with logic files and then old garageband and now time for random audio clips ๐ฌ
(DIR) Post #9l5TKYoP1tDEon3xxI by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T21:43:20Z
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@fry did you find some good ones?
(DIR) Post #9l5TMDstoB0gUYxVlQ by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T21:43:41Z
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@kai err they're all good obviously
(DIR) Post #9l5TacUf6pEArzUGSu by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T21:46:16Z
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@fry right, how silly of me to ask ๐
(DIR) Post #9l5Tg5b6KSo2a86h4C by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T21:47:17Z
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@kai jk but really my main problem is having too many ideas and not seeing any of them through so I'm trying to make it so that I have a structured plan of things to attend to when I have the time, rather than creating more ideasthere are a lot of little bits that I think have potential but I should really finish the ones that are at around 80% completion first... I guess?!
(DIR) Post #9l5TkcIigE4HAUfTvc by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T21:48:04Z
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@fry nah, finish the one you're most excited about right now.People change, art changesโฆyou gotta roll with it ๐
(DIR) Post #9l5UYQxF8jJoSPNRoW by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T21:57:07Z
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@kai yeah, I get that, it's just I'm excited about a lot of it stillโI want enough structure to the files that when I have the chance to do something I can go through a different set of starting points/half finished things and pick the one that hits me most, also depending on what I can do practically in that moment e.g. instruments/vocal recording or just programming stuff etc.I have to get super structured with this shit cos nothing is getting done in my current situation
(DIR) Post #9l5UmzMc0JZ1EIBRaK by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T21:59:42Z
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@fry you're telling me!?Strangely what's motivating me right now is that I became interested in selling things, and I've realized how nice it is to NOT have physical inventory, and to already have all the tools I need to bring my vision to life.
(DIR) Post #9l5YnyqpnL8NkK33Nw by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T21:43:17Z
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there's lots of videos of me playing basslines for unfinished songs in different locations at different ages and it's giving me existential dread
(DIR) Post #9l5YnzGMGRYD1TzRAW by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:36:59Z
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right well I've done as much as I can bare of that for nowI think if I could have 5 years paid time I have about 10 albums worth of material here
(DIR) Post #9l5YnzcgvPPo8kRGym by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:38:01Z
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as I can bear? as I can bare?truly deep question
(DIR) Post #9l5YnzyfbgzpEuipEm by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:42:13Z
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there's definitely a big decision to be made on which style I actually want to be working in, we have: - Low fi bass driven solo stuff- Full manbastion (janky electronic pop)- Fun, happy, acapella- Other very vocal focussed, almost choral bits- Funky groove stuff- 'Normal' songs, kind of indy pop-ish- Off kilter 'jokey' stuff, kind of funny in a weird wayI don't know
(DIR) Post #9l5Yo0PbzWXyaTKLEO by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:42:45Z
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do I want people to like it? as in other humans? do I want them to dance? to laugh? to cry?
(DIR) Post #9l5Yo0oQVGOdpQw9uS by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T22:44:40Z
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@fry you must manipulate their emotions as the moon rules the tides ๐
(DIR) Post #9l5ZCCv18ywUKFYbR2 by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:49:07Z
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@kai I think if I'm going to gig it I want some bits that are easy to latch onto either because they're danceable or amusing. I've been in a few moody indie bands and always just felt it was too sincere and difficult to engage an audience with as an unknown band
(DIR) Post #9l5Zi2GsGZkQZNxPvM by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T22:54:52Z
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@fry as for my "vision" it's just whatever I think I like enough to actually finishI don't think I could ever perform any of my songs live with a straight faceI would just be like "god I can't believe I'm actually doing this"
(DIR) Post #9l5ZtemJREhtBOCgt6 by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:56:59Z
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@kai yeah it's a really hard thing to write stuff that you'd also actually be comfortable performing. Whenever I've performed it's been 99% other people's material (apart from one or two drunken open mics) - but I really want to get passed that and actually be comfortable putting myself on stage
(DIR) Post #9l5a9gBTyjrcB0cJU0 by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:57:37Z
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@kai just need to find the bit of me that makes me cringe the least
(DIR) Post #9l5a9gvDEiRYSq0plI by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T22:59:50Z
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@fry or go the other way. I listened to a conversation with David Shields. He writes all his thoughts but only keeps the parts that make him feel really uneasy ๐
(DIR) Post #9l5aKkGr7nls2KPI6C by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T22:58:21Z
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@kai still forever want to hear your music btw
(DIR) Post #9l5aKly8oLzPIrfNCq by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T23:01:50Z
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@fry once next I'm going to finish and publish the song about California with a slideshow of the pictures I took in Los Angeles as the "music video"it's so impersonal; it's about a state ๐
(DIR) Post #9l5aQSUE9wo8cJNy5Y by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T23:02:54Z
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@kai haha shit I could do a really anxiety ridden performance of all the material I hatethe energy might come off as.. edgy?!
(DIR) Post #9l5aRzii5Dq7yjtNLs by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T23:03:08Z
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@fry ultimate punk
(DIR) Post #9l5aV4Bfvlu6hauBsW by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-21T23:03:44Z
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@kai sweet, sounds cool
(DIR) Post #9l5asTHWnRkDBvnqwy by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-21T23:07:55Z
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@fry and for the song after that I'm hoping to shoot a live action music video
(DIR) Post #9l72JNdOeCycMhEKi8 by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T15:50:03Z
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@kai @fry So, both of you: 50/90 started July 4th. http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/It doesn't matter if you don't hit 50. Starting almost a month late on a three month project also isn't a big deal. It's totally viable to aim for 25 songs with 14 usable for an album.Stop thinking about music with your heads. Think about it in song. Explore what you have done by creating something new. Experiment with what you want to release by how it feels.It's also a friendly community. (Not as big as FAWM.)
(DIR) Post #9l7QP3IrY6bXwjrZuy by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-22T18:43:49Z
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@yam655Thank you, I'll check it out! I'm not sure I can manage that kind of output at the moment but interested to see what's going down there.I have a small baby and don't get to spend that much time actually working on music but currently had a couple of days away where I could at least think about what I want to do rather than work.Obviously I prefer to play and create when I have the chance though!@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QP3zOzwdG4flYDw by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T18:55:35Z
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@fry Small babies change what kind of music is acceptable. It's totally doable, but think in terms of songs you'd sing to the little one.My first FAWM had me singing little songs to my kids and recording it on my phone.You do some "fun, happy acapella" stuff, though? Crossing the line in to children's music is very easy. Nursery songs, lullabies. Songs about tasks and stuff.A bedtime song: https://yam655.com/j/2017-07/16_r1427/Singing while driving:https://yam655.com/j/2017-07/26_r1909/@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QP4PdQPcFO22V72 by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T19:00:26Z
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@fry More recently, I sang: "You can poop on your own" https://yam655.com/j/2019-07/20_r2220/My first FAWM, my then nonverbal son helped me decide what to sing about by picking up toys. (It looks like I need to put those songs online somewhere.)@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QP6JKMpl7H36UYi by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-22T19:06:30Z
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@yam655Haha, good stuff! Comes down to what I want to do with it ultimately though, I have done a few songs for the baby and gave plenty of bits on my phone but I'm targeting having a new set to gig next year which will be slightly different stuff to that!I think I'm going to set up a second soundcloud for little bits and curiosities that don't fit my main project. Quite a few things sitting around with no place to live.@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QP8g5ZB9ccDlhJY by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T19:21:21Z
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@fry That makes sense. Just remember to plan for the future. Kids grow fast.My own kids try not to interrupt me and will stand at the doorway listening while I finish.I set the bar low, so we've been passing my Zoom H1 around for years. My kids will also sing silly little songs to themselves when alone.I understand about wanting gigable material, though. Still, what style did they hear in utero? Whatever style that was, they'll still enjoy it an infant.@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QPAgW6YgWq7z4G8 by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-22T19:28:52Z
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@yam655That's really cool that they've taken it on as an activity too@kai
(DIR) Post #9l7QPC7qkQ8vJBmPVA by luka@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T20:03:34Z
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@fry @yam655 @kai Just reminded me of this... Not that Rick Beato is always right, but this advice regarding babies developing pitch recognition is very interesting. Basically he's saying that from the moment that they start hearing anything they should be surrounded by complex types of music. Music with many notes and harmonies. https://youtu.be/816VLQNdPMM
(DIR) Post #9l7QPFIEyFEl8HfFc8 by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-22T20:19:55Z
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@luka @fry @yam655 perfect pitch is a curse ๐ the real guy to watch is Chris Azzara https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRH8PLGs0B0
(DIR) Post #9l7ToyAfYK0xQA53nU by fry@mastodon.xyz
2019-07-22T20:58:19Z
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@kaiBoth very interesting! It's funny what different people decide is the 'proper' way to 'do music', but for me it's a personal thing. I have definitely exposed my girl to music a lot in my own ways but I like the idea of her naturally and organically developing her own relationship with it through our interactions rather than trying to influence or train her in any particular way.@luka @yam655
(DIR) Post #9l7UClBNUm065UkxBQ by luka@sonomu.club
2019-07-22T21:02:37Z
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@kai @fry @yam655 awesome, very interesting, thanks!
(DIR) Post #9l7iSspkDPP5oCDgpc by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-22T23:42:24Z
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@fry @luka @yam655 You probably don't think of verbal interactions with your child as "intensive language instruction," but that's exactly what it is. And you can do the same thing with music.
(DIR) Post #9l8b0HeWM40LreLU8W by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-23T09:53:29Z
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@kai @fry @luka I like to remember that back before recorded music, back before radio, the air was filled with the sound of people singing to themselves. Most of these people got embarrassed and stopped once they found out they "didn't sing as good as <x>" -- that or they were shamed in to stopping within a few generations by kids who thought the same.I call that early music, "folk acapella." My kids just needed to know it was a thing. "Here, you just open your mouth and sing."
(DIR) Post #9l8iwET73B2WSqaYSG by yam655@sonomu.club
2019-07-23T10:03:55Z
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@kai @fry @luka They still get confused about my process. (Or intimidated by it?) I shared "Food Truck Dog" earlier, and it has this bit of dialog:Me: You sing it, McDougal!Kid: I don't know all the words!Me: Neither do I! It doesn't stop me from singing it!Fearlessly playing with music is something that can be modeled fairly easily to kids."I've no idea what I'm doing, but I'm doing it anyway and when I'm done, I'll know a little more."That's really the vibe I go for.
(DIR) Post #9l8iwFT9KWfBZFc69Q by kai@ajin.la
2019-07-23T11:22:22Z
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@yam655 @fry @luka you can try this book if you're looking for ideas https://www.giamusic.com/products/P-426.cfm