Post 9l1MIsnuFhRvvpFC64 by cwebber@octodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #9l0d4ximg1srBupu9g by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-07-19T13:33:45Z
       
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       I'm writing up a description of something that's kind of like "ephemeral postage stamps" (they disappear/expire, after a while).  I'm currently calling it "ghostage stamps".I can't tell if this is the best name or the worst name.
       
 (DIR) Post #9l0d4y2zSu2yCaI2eO by freemo@qoto.org
       2019-07-19T13:39:03Z
       
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       @cwebber "Ghostage" just by itself is catchy.. not so much the whole phrase.
       
 (DIR) Post #9l1MIsRvZPrupexdq4 by Shutsumon@tootplanet.space
       2019-07-19T13:37:48Z
       
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       @cwebber this is one thing that worries me. How are these ghostage stamps obtained? If they have to be purchased what about people who can't afford to pay?
       
 (DIR) Post #9l1MIsnuFhRvvpFC64 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-07-19T17:05:27Z
       
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       @Shutsumon Yes, how indeed!  I'll cover this a bit more, but several things: - There's *no cost* to communicate with the people you already have relationships with.  So you only need them for people you don't have a connection to. - If you are accessing the network, you already have the tools to acquire postage, if/when you need it... you have a CPU. - The "costs" to a good actor in the system I'm thinking of are *dramatically lower* than the costs for a bad actor.  How can that be?(1/2)
       
 (DIR) Post #9l3CpyLe38NtSQ5IZ6 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-07-19T17:08:37Z
       
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       @Shutsumon The reason it's lower if you're a good actor is that people can, and hopefully generally will, refund you if they accept your message.  So you can reuse those, up until they expire.  They also can then "establish a connection" so you don't have to pay to speak to them in the future.By contrast, bad actors have to keep paying.The fact that postage expires also means that this doesn't become "valuable".  Anyone can become a [gh|p]ostage  dispenser, and I'll show how to do that.
       
 (DIR) Post #9l3Cq0WLyI8eCD6sXA by clacke@libranet.de
       2019-07-20T19:25:56Z
       
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       @cwebber @Shutsumon Refunding and expiry is a really interesting extension to hashcash.
       
 (DIR) Post #9l3CrcuwhPEDZRNvkW by yaaps@banana.dog
       2019-07-19T15:11:38Z
       
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       @cwebber Ghostage stamps are cute, clever, and make a point about being ephemeralAnother approach to the name might be too emphasize the reduction of junk mail and reducing the toxicity of shitposting with community postage - "compost stamps"