Post 9kbIhNNRXECndubLOa by ricardojmendez@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #9kaMcFK6G0P7sHt3XU by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T21:32:06Z
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It's always funny when people on Twitter think Mastodon is based on a blockchain somehow
(DIR) Post #9kaMhxzTc1qHr7y6BE by cambrian_era@radical.town
2019-07-06T21:33:06Z
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@Gargron wait what
(DIR) Post #9kaMiYUZts6x40nRei by benaiah@pdx.social
2019-07-06T21:33:15Z
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@Gargron when i go to block someone i usually find other people to block from their page; sounds like a blockchain to me
(DIR) Post #9kaMjGdHmrDjxlD1Ky by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T21:33:24Z
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"Sounds like your blockchain isn't actually decentralized"That's my secret cap 😎 There is no blockchain
(DIR) Post #9kaMjcfVrG4eJ2Q6rY by jimpjorps@radical.town
2019-07-06T21:33:23Z
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@Gargron everything is either an app or a blockchain, no exceptions
(DIR) Post #9kaMnok6uOEsuaZS7s by gudenau@mastodon.technology
2019-07-06T21:34:13Z
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@Gargron Oh my god people tech isn't this hard.
(DIR) Post #9kaMxo4kFBXljpzAjA by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-07-06T21:36:04.635629Z
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@GargronrandomTemp14571701588253166074.…
(DIR) Post #9kaMy8Zc287PJMa6cK by norikawa@efdn.club
2019-07-06T21:36:03Z
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@Gargron huh whaaaat??
(DIR) Post #9kaMyXkSQweFOEqcUa by Jamacanbacn@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T21:36:08Z
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@Gargron just trying to prevent me from selling high
(DIR) Post #9kaN4Ge0wFQe53YzEe by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T21:37:10Z
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I'll do a big brain post and say, in my opinion, blockchains aren't even that decentralized. They're just distributed. You have a single global state and you need consensus in the network to modify it. Mastodon servers have a lot more independence than that 'cause they don't care what else happens in the network.
(DIR) Post #9kaN4eCtKjzf9t3fI8 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-07-06T21:37:15.939147Z
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@Gargron probably based on your large chain of blocks
(DIR) Post #9kaNKJxwMDZz0zXRw0 by yaaps@banana.dog
2019-07-06T21:40:04Z
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@Gargron Except we *do* care. We tend to care a lot more about the sites we don't federate with than the ones we do 😂😂😂
(DIR) Post #9kaNpblcDsR1CYh040 by FartHog69@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T21:45:43Z
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@Gargron the ultimate blockchain
(DIR) Post #9kaO2CmgQ4LTU2CNeq by troubleMoney@computerfairi.es
2019-07-06T21:47:57Z
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@Gargron as I said before, only blockchain 'round 'ere is all of us passing 'round their domains so we can suspend their asses
(DIR) Post #9kaOBKoLwdzKz7KhqC by chara@freespeech.firedragonstudios.com
2019-07-06T21:49:43Z
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@Gargron nobody knows what blockchain means
(DIR) Post #9kaOEM6vZMxTssSgFs by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-06T21:50:16.565785Z
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@chara @Gargron did you say blockchain? where can I invest?
(DIR) Post #9kaOKQg1VQRbmbm1A0 by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-07-06T21:51:22.093841Z
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@fluffy @chara @Gargron you can get 50 pleromacoin if you mine the best shitpost
(DIR) Post #9kaOO0AU0T7ij4ixou by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-06T21:52:01.173946Z
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@jeff @Gargron @chara That's easy. Everything I write is literally the best shitpost.
(DIR) Post #9kaOSciOdEBfR4n5O4 by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-07-06T21:52:50.412163Z
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@fluffy o really? Then where are your pleromacoins? :thinking: @Gargron @chara
(DIR) Post #9kaOZYg82Ps6wZ2LYG by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-06T21:54:06.487634Z
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@jeff @Gargron @chara I am entitled to 500 pleromacoinsHand them over or the loli gets it :lainbear: 🔫
(DIR) Post #9kaOluJbQ2zrWWOAmu by domodak@miniwa.moe
2019-07-06T21:56:19.402472Z
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@fluffy @chara @Gargron Is it really still that easy to gain truckloads of venture capital money?
(DIR) Post #9kaOvwXbzvmhK5j8ym by efi@chitter.xyz
2019-07-06T21:58:01Z
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@Gargron did they mean "cockchain"?
(DIR) Post #9kaPENYWISf4JtwVaC by fluffy@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-06T22:01:29.125882Z
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@domodak @Gargron @chara It was five years ago lmao people learning about crypto venture scams in 2019
(DIR) Post #9kaPZ8GGM9loxyIbJ2 by domodak@miniwa.moe
2019-07-06T22:05:13.268834Z
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@fluffy @Gargron @chara Sorry that I don’t work in that business. :blobcatblep:
(DIR) Post #9kaPqy4oxdmealS51U by mikefordays@mstdn.io
2019-07-06T22:08:23Z
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@GargronTootcoin ICO when?
(DIR) Post #9kaQGhEYCoHtspGs88 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-07-06T22:13:05.130624Z
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@Gargron honestly, it sometimes drives me nuts that the federated social space has to share the decentralization label with blockchain technologies.The decentralization tag on Medium is full of Bitcoin articles. It fucking sucks.
(DIR) Post #9kaQKu78G6R2zOo8Iq by coda@beach.city
2019-07-06T22:00:06Z
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@yaaps @Gargron I think he means on a technical level, one instance operates independently of the others + doesn’t require all of them to be running the same software or contain the same data to function properly, on its own, whereas bitcoin/etc relies upon every individual user having a copy of precisely the same, constantly changing information.
(DIR) Post #9kaQUAcWG4bQmxuIuu by cwebber@octodon.social
2019-07-06T22:13:54Z
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@sean @gargron what if the blockchains are git repos #unhelpful #gitisablockchaintechnicallythough #stillunhelpful #nobodylikeslongtags
(DIR) Post #9kaR0vgIp1Pi0qIVHs by TurkeyFaced@mastodon.social
2019-07-06T22:20:31Z
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@Gargron I read somewhere the same thing - that Fediverse is blockchain. I think it is an assumption left over from last year's media frenzy over blockchain technology. All cool new tech things that seem to be distributed or decentralized MUST be based on Ethereum! 😃
(DIR) Post #9kaZnsxYWrrJOVDrUW by ted@social.gould.cx
2019-07-06T23:59:47Z
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@Gargron so, if I read this right, you're saying that Mastodon is actually a decentralized block chain?😉
(DIR) Post #9kauJVxDb2X0OUQLL6 by Stoori@polyglot.city
2019-07-07T03:49:38Z
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@Gargron me: singing ”blockchain” to the tune of Ducktales
(DIR) Post #9kbIhNNRXECndubLOa by ricardojmendez@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T08:22:56Z
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@Gargron For what it's worth, that's a common idea among people who actually talk about decentralization (as opposed to the blockchain-blockchain-blockchain crowd). The usual separation is:- Architectural decentralization, which might as well just be "distributed";- Organizational decentralization, based on the institutions or individuals involved;- Logical decentralization, where the entire network doesn't need to have a single state.
(DIR) Post #9kbIsEhw6lTzwMMiH2 by ricardojmendez@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T08:24:53Z
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@Gargron fwiw, that's a common idea among people who actually look into the centralization aspects (as opposed to the blockchain === decentralized crowd). The usual separation is:- Architectural decentralization, which might as well just be "distributed";- Organizational decentralization, based on the institutions or individuals involved;- Logical decentralization, where the entire network doesn't need to have a single state.Vitalik Buterin went over it here:https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/the-meaning-of-decentralization-a0c92b76a274
(DIR) Post #9kbNCZMDRUWTan9miG by dsteve@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T09:13:24Z
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@Gargron :blobpats:
(DIR) Post #9kbWpAK1M9z2pNbp9U by jasper@mastodon.nl
2019-07-07T11:01:12Z
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@Gargron that consensus _is the point_.Mastodon uses consensus, in the form of DNS.I am kindah against blockchains as they are, though. Like mainly, it might help to be able to send money and do DNS without interference. But the idea of undermining the government or whatever is daft.These Blockchains currently can also not replace systems, they're not tied closely enough to community. They tend closer to business, reiterating current problems, possibly with little restraint.
(DIR) Post #9kbXxU5vpFLiQGY8Vk by mu@mudl.us
2019-07-07T11:13:57Z
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@jasper @Gargron re: "Not tied close enough to the community." Ever heard of "the global village." If the global village needs a currency, it will be Bitcoin. I think local politics are all that matters for _most_ people, but that is constantly undermined in a "globalized" world. Hence the "global village" and the importance of privacy local and national and global. This is the fundamental difference between Libra and Bitcoin. Also the fundamental difference between ActivityPub and Facebook.
(DIR) Post #9kblCWGxCVAMNdfNOC by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T13:42:13Z
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@jasper I wouldn't call DNS consensus. You don't need anyone's consensus for activity on your own server. At best, consensus of DNS caches is used to verify incoming/outgoing activities, but that's also directly from one server to another, without requiring whole network approval.
(DIR) Post #9kc1fMrAsz8cqHNzyi by jasper@mastodon.nl
2019-07-07T16:46:47Z
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@Gargron how do domain names then stay consistent?Like if A claims `somename.net` to B and C claims `somename.net` to D, when to accept the name? If both accept it, there is disagreement which server gets to take which names?
(DIR) Post #9kc20fe4E2ZJCAPgRs by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T16:50:39Z
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@jasper DNS is an authority-based system
(DIR) Post #9kc52yLzwECBf0kbgG by rw@shitposter.club
2019-07-07T17:24:44.607658Z
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@Gargron @jasper internet becomes interesting when you get to cdns, isps, and ixps
(DIR) Post #9kcIyPkm2RNyY73n2e by jasper@mastodon.nl
2019-07-07T20:00:41Z
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@Gargron the authority determines what the names mean. I.e. consensus is reached by agreeing to follow those authorities.I am pretty sure that mastodon depends on DNS.Existing instances already convinced of each' others names could use public key crypto and just stick with the names, but new names are harder to decide..
(DIR) Post #9kcK6GVGPjNq8C73ey by Sorin24@mastodon.social
2019-07-07T20:13:21Z
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@Gargron I'm new from twitter
(DIR) Post #9keDIotcKSTbWeHLKS by Josh_Drake_66@mastodon.social
2019-07-08T18:06:27Z
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@Gargron People on Twitter don't know a wristwatch from a wristlock 😂