Post 9kXdLvsxsEdYhe7cIa by mattskala@mstdn.io
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(DIR) Post #9kX1IRJRI4RykuPd3o by m4iler@infosec.exchange
2019-07-05T06:49:09Z
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@kev Hey, man, I'm shaking from your post.Heh. It just had to be said. Completely agree with your post, though
(DIR) Post #9kX1J8M5G77EFYyqeW by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-07-05T06:49:16.265359Z
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@kev on what alternate universe fedi is this an unpopular opinion
(DIR) Post #9kX1QJUIGd5sntFBjM by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-07-05T06:50:34.923885Z
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@kev i can agree
(DIR) Post #9kX1sWloTbKi6htNMO by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T06:52:41Z
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@xeno the snowflakeiverse? đ
(DIR) Post #9kX1sWxVm6gsgzMiau by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-07-05T06:55:36.603359Z
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@kev uh ok
(DIR) Post #9kX3GQvXx5jctDPLxw by Matter@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T06:53:33Z
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@kev I think this is a by-product of people fleeing here because they felt unsafe somewhere else... I mostly try to ignore it, but I agree it is silly and counterproductive to have such sensitivity for what something is called
(DIR) Post #9kX3GR9j6N4rbC2g4G by ohyran@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T07:11:02Z
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@Matter @kev that is a pretty good take on it.Can I toss a thing in to the ring? Ignore, Mute and Block. Its been my absolutely best friend here - knowing that I have no obligation to anyone with my free time, my interests or anything - and if something to me is even just a time waster - I ignore them, if that doesn't help I mute them, and if that doesn't help I block them.
(DIR) Post #9kXIeqIukezJrCR3A0 by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T10:03:10Z
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@ohyran unfortunately I canât do that. Because Iâm the instance admin, I need to see everything in case someone who Iâve blocked causes issues. đ@Matter
(DIR) Post #9kXJ0DVpetc3uxfZke by ohyran@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T10:07:12Z
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@kev @Matter Fair. I wonder... ok so its a bit late for this I suppose - but an admin account? Like one which you can log in (or several can log into to share the brunt of the hit) to deal with nonsense and then a personal oasis account where you can just mellow out?
(DIR) Post #9kXJgM0IThzEPq0msC by jonw@hackers.town
2019-07-05T10:14:59Z
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@ohyran @Matter @kev @kungtotte Yep. Thatâs the fedi way. Block and move on.
(DIR) Post #9kXKshcG39wGsGDgQq by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T10:28:13Z
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@ohyran @Matter yeah, Iâve considered that and that was why I originally created @fosstodon maybe youâre right.
(DIR) Post #9kXLLGJMeC7gaW06MK by opal@pl.wowana.me
2019-07-05T10:33:43.064810Z
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@kev @Matter @ohyran cant you just respond to reports, and if it's a report pertaining to a user you block, just unblock them and see whats going on?
(DIR) Post #9kXLPk1a7H55tropEm by brainblasted@social.libre.fi
2019-07-05T07:15:58.895358Z
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@kev of course there are "more important things" for just about everything. That doesn't mean we shouldn't solve whatever issues we can.
(DIR) Post #9kXLPkGTDuzUe2miRc by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T10:04:30Z
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@brainblasted is someone calling someone else a name really something that needs fixing? I donât think so, personally.
(DIR) Post #9kXLPkVMKYttODkbeS by opal@pl.wowana.me
2019-07-05T10:34:33.291676Z
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@kev youre talking to @brainblasted, someone who is campaigning for The GIMP to change its project name because it's "ableist language". you wont get far with him
(DIR) Post #9kXLVeDyasSzeIQtN2 by opal@pl.wowana.me
2019-07-05T10:35:38.378930Z
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@kev @Matter @ohyran im anime.website admin and i've had to block my own users before because i didnt want to see their shit, but at the same time they werent doing anything against my rules
(DIR) Post #9kXLbsBVbRqagQFN7A by awg@pl.smuglo.li
2019-07-05T10:36:46.379468Z
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@opal @kev @brainblasted >brainblastedwe've been here a few times before: the username is more than apt.
(DIR) Post #9kXO3OWDh4AGh0BYbw by ellotheth@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T08:21:31Z
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@kev So I enjoy this. I don't think of it as "gee there are a lot of snowflakes here", more "wow there are so many perspectives here I never even knew existed." I *want* to know what impact my words have on the people I'm talking to. It's eye-opening.
(DIR) Post #9kXP1fBspvMDm6PaEq by cute@deadinsi.de
2019-07-05T11:15:00Z
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@kev lmao whiteboys
(DIR) Post #9kXQW5T1nzjluaVBU8 by neildarlow@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T07:45:31Z
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It seems to be everywhere. Individuals claiming to be different and demanding to be recognised.What really annoys me are those that demand to be included in things where they have no talent or ability purely on the basis of "being represented".Are we to have Generals who are afraid of weapons? Or Doctors who are scared of blood? Will our lives be dictated by "Codes of Conduct"?@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXQW5r8MN1H7LmR3g by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T08:04:45Z
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@neildarlow @kev Heya Neil, I'd be very interested in getting some examples.
(DIR) Post #9kXQW6J8gFQAWCsni4 by neildarlow@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T09:19:14Z
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There are examples out there. Just search Social Justice and free software.It's not something I wish to debate at length because I have an opinion and that is that I don't agree with it.@trickster@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXQW6oKoGNI4xTiKm by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T11:31:41Z
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@neildarlowI think your opinion is more popular than many want to believe.@trickster @kev
(DIR) Post #9kXRee5D5XEXXe0RGK by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2019-07-05T11:44:30.385617Z
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@neildarlow @kev 2012 called. It wants its observation about tumblr back.
(DIR) Post #9kXTEFJckbA56cHtJo by succfemboi@iscute.moe
2019-07-05T12:02:08.580569Z
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@neildarlowHey, I can't do anything. But I also want to be a part of something important@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXZfqQfTEfRkt7qQi by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-07-05T13:14:21.078437Z
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@kev judging by the reaction you've hit the nail on the head, everyone is tired of these people that won't grow tf up and the people that won't grow tf spout some doublespeak to justify their lack of maturity.
(DIR) Post #9kXaMIKI8jSIRINuu8 by succfemboi@iscute.moe
2019-07-05T13:22:00.501135Z
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@kevAren't they making a fork of GNU IMP simply for it's name?
(DIR) Post #9kXcFpyIqgGifa9GSW by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-07-05T13:43:16.611158Z
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@one @kev yeah boogey.man is a terrible instance. awful shit going on tgere
(DIR) Post #9kXcYQpIYv9sBXnr04 by citrustwee@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T12:22:45Z
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@kev keep not caring about marginalized people, woke king. i am so proud of you for finally speaking out as a cis white boy, you are such an underdog with underrepresented opinions. thank you for sharing this with us.now fuck off, dickhead. thank you for showing your true colors (not that this wasn't already obvious from your garbage moderation.)
(DIR) Post #9kXcZHtNGUuUlX7MDA by citrustwee@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T12:23:16Z
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@kev in conclusion: fuck up, cunt
(DIR) Post #9kXccEN6oIpuiSQfpI by robinjanssens@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T09:33:37Z
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@kev there seem to be a lot of "safe space" instances with very different and often incompatible views. With that being the case, it seems that the fediverse should actually be a fediverse of fedisolarsystems (or something) which may end up being isolated from one another. We do see that happening anyway with people blocking instances which refuse to block other instances and so on. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not.
(DIR) Post #9kXccEyKZubuZtqOqO by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2019-07-05T13:47:16Z
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@robinjanssensSomeone should finally implement groups@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXdLvsxsEdYhe7cIa by mattskala@mstdn.io
2019-07-05T13:55:33Z
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@kev One of these things is not like the others.
(DIR) Post #9kXfXeYiJrU4LgMlWq by ohyran@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T14:19:44Z
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@kev @Matter @fosstodon To expand on the subject a tad though - I think its relevant to consider that this is how many of us treats real life. For example - someone say something homophobic and I will most probably point that out, OR worry that I can't point that out for fear of what might happen. There isn't any real gray area there, its fear or "normal". So here where we are all interconnected people react together and that can be problematic, but it can also be good.
(DIR) Post #9kXfqg6qmKKaeyPAvI by ohyran@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T14:22:53Z
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@kev @Matter @fosstodon Which is why I tend to step back instead if something feels too "open nerve endings". Not because I agree necessarily, but because its often way more going on than just that one time someone said that one word.It is, as weird as it might sound, a sign of quality that you hear a lot of this since in many places people just... don't. And if its like IRL homophobia - that is often a sign not of not-caring but being afraid of pointing it out.
(DIR) Post #9kXgQWZ1kJ8xTog3Ki by maloki@elekk.xyz
2019-07-05T10:10:03Z
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@kev words have meaning, they form how we think and perceive the world around us. If we choose different words we change how we behave. @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXgQWzGAm7wnAx0Do by maloki@elekk.xyz
2019-07-05T10:10:29Z
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@kev this means, that we can radically change the world, one word at the time. @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXgQXIP1bRJkXuI3k by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T10:30:07Z
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@maloki such as what? What word needs its meaning (or connotation) changing that will âradically change the worldâ?@brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXgQXWECCUyRQNKbo by maloki@elekk.xyz
2019-07-05T10:42:25Z
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@kev you're missing the point. It's not about reclaiming and changing meaning, it's just about not using those words because of the charged history they have. Do you call black and PoC folx the N* word? Do you call men Masters of the house? Do you call handicapped people cripples/gimps? If you don't, why don't you? If you really feel like words don't have meaning? @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXgYp7Wda9HLelrSy by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T13:01:43Z
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@kev What does this line from your CoC mean, then?> As tooters on Fosstodon, we pledge to uphold an environment that is radically inclusive with respect for all users of the instance.Could you just remove it altogether if it doesn't mean anything?
(DIR) Post #9kXgYpLhmrUW3dPBZI by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:31:29Z
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@trickster It does mean something. Respect != agreement.@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXgbcUu1edr4G2TQG by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:31:58Z
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@DashEquals @kev Ok, what does "radically inclusive" mean?
(DIR) Post #9kXggYMeorrlhIXD3Q by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:32:53Z
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@trickster Everyone is welcome, regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, race, etc. If someone is being harassed for those things, it's not allowed.There's a difference between that and a disagreement of opinion. A discussion isn't harassment.@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXgn6e4HF1zkrnqYi by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:34:00Z
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@DashEquals @kev Sure, but what you've just underlines is "inclusivity". What does "radically inclusive" mean?
(DIR) Post #9kXgqFqCXnbP8xyn2m by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:34:39Z
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@trickster I don't know the exact meaning that the writer of that sentence intended, ask them.@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXgrwKG4XRLCIqGKe by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:34:57Z
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@kev Permission to boost? (joking)
(DIR) Post #9kXgtpwalocfz4g1pI by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:35:06Z
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@DashEquals @kev seeing as I'm talking to one of the admins, that's precisely what I'm asking for, mate
(DIR) Post #9kXgw8LJKqllcrKm4O by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:35:29Z
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@trickster OK, but telling them to remove it isn't going to be as effective as asking them what it means.@kev
(DIR) Post #9kXgyWYYHTIfImfRFw by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:36:02Z
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@jamie Those are some good ones, tbh. Maybe I should use swears less so people see more of my toots đ @kev
(DIR) Post #9kXh2xU86QA9yhiI2i by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:36:50Z
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@DashEquals @kev Well, I told them to remove it *IF* it doesn't mean anything.
(DIR) Post #9kXh4eq4Op6Oj9mnJo by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:37:15Z
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@trickster @kev OK, glad you clarified that. Still, being abrasive isn't the best way to convince people.
(DIR) Post #9kXhDNdLjlNbyMzm6K by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T13:00:10Z
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@kev Why are you treating being nice to people as a problem?
(DIR) Post #9kXhDNsEqPI0iXxfJA by jamie@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T13:11:47Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @kev That's not what I took away from it - to me it's more about a general aversion against being offended or a movement against holding or expressing unpopular opinions.
(DIR) Post #9kXhDO7TvjTzTp5q4G by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T13:15:45Z
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@jamie @kev That movement is literally "Don't be an ass, be nice, and listen to people when they say that you are making them unhappy."Again, why is this a problem?
(DIR) Post #9kXhDOLf50pEBnjAAa by jamie@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T13:24:36Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @kev I'm not saying that they should go out of their way to do it, or just be an asshole for no reason. Diversity of opinion is a good thing - people should have the freedom to say things without worrying that it might make some people unhappy (within reasonable constraints).
(DIR) Post #9kXhDOZUFbsssgCCie by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T13:27:26Z
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@jamie @kev People have the freedom to do that. That has not changed. What has changed is that people are getting called out for being assholes, where before this would have been silently accepted.Many times, people do not actually realise that they are being assholes. In these cases they can either listen to what they are being told, and try to adjust accordingly, or they can complain about told.
(DIR) Post #9kXhDOpRIIe1g9ewaG by jamie@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T13:29:03Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @kev Completely agree - I just think the manner in which people disagree about these issues on the fediverse, or even social media in general, is sometimes a little perverse.
(DIR) Post #9kXhDP4gNcq0RQn7LM by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T13:31:30Z
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@jamie @kev Are they though, really? Have you actually tried seeing things from their side? That they might have had to put up with shit for a very long time, and are quite fed up with it, while it has never registered to you?
(DIR) Post #9kXhDPHnarKV66vamu by jamie@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T13:52:09Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @kev Yes. I think the Fediverse, and social media in general, has a big problem dealing with diverse opinions - but that's just my opinion, dump it in the bucket with all the rest.
(DIR) Post #9kXhDPVyk8fjo5YutE by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:38:48Z
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@jamie The problem is that social media is not an optimal platform for real discussion. In real life, one on one, you can make progress, but on the internet, unless both people want to learn, you'll end up with people talking past each other and no progress being made.@WAHa_06x36 @kev
(DIR) Post #9kXhGAkm5972tUneC0 by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T13:55:31Z
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@jamie @kev There is a difference between an opinion and being an ass. And if you are not able to present your opinion without also being an ass, that is not really a problem of your surroundings, it is much more likely to be a problem of your opinions, and a good hint that you need to rethink them.
(DIR) Post #9kXhGB156W9li4Qfbs by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:39:20Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @jamie @kev Here's the problem: for whatever opinion you have, some person will think you're an ass for it.
(DIR) Post #9kXhHVXAJ2XldK4S0G by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:39:29Z
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@DashEquals @jamie @kev There aren't always two people who need to make progress. Sometimes, it is just one.
(DIR) Post #9kXhKZnMv2Opib74dc by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:40:07Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @jamie @kev In any discussion/debate, the goal is for both participants to learn something.
(DIR) Post #9kXhObd42ihcZ2DNHk by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:40:36Z
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@DashEquals @jamie @kev Not really. For every opinion you might find people who will feign offence. But that is quite different from actually being hurt by what you say.
(DIR) Post #9kXhPtASJvLxFTReng by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:40:59Z
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@succfemboi @kev Yes, that's the thing Fedi decided was a terrible injustice this month.
(DIR) Post #9kXhREvSuRH11J4s64 by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:41:14Z
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@DashEquals Damned snowflakes taking offense at everything! Cone on mate, cut me some slack. You're all rational people, I'm sure the facts are enough.
(DIR) Post #9kXhVYhvItgLWunqCG by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:41:52Z
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@DashEquals @jamie @kev No, it's not. There is no such thing as "discussion/debate", "debate" is a very specific type of disucssion, and the vast majority of discussions are not debates, nor should they be treated as such.Sometimes, you are just being told you are an ass, and you need to suck it up and apologise. The other party has no obligation in such an exchange.
(DIR) Post #9kXhX34RtoMhzQ3852 by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:42:12Z
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@WAHa_06x36 @jamie @kev Yes, but how do you know the difference?
(DIR) Post #9kXhceirL1s4DEcnk8 by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:43:03Z
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@DashEquals @jamie @kev You develop your empathic side, which is what humans use to determine these things.
(DIR) Post #9kXhuoJGQqRl9vJGAy by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T14:46:40Z
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@opal FOSStodon doesn't really want to be defederated from the rest of the network, so they moderate a bit more, and blocking users would interfere with that.@Matter @kev @ohyran
(DIR) Post #9kXiYx5rC3dtz7BCL2 by lunchgirl@niu.moe
2019-07-05T14:53:24Z
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@DashEqualsI have to disagree with you there, I think. Even though we do collectively decide what words mean (and by extension, how offensive they are), there's also a historical component to that meaning. The N-word means what it means because of a global history of oppression of the specified race of people. "Masters of the house" when calling men that is problematic because women, historically, were not in positions of power. And "gimp" hasn't been used to celebrate disabled bodies, historically. None of this is something can be over turned by a single decision to use these words - it takes time.Additionally, when dealing with requests to moderate language in general, their may be factors other than historical at play. I don't know what they may be, and the person doing the asking may not want/be able to articulate them. Because I don't know what factors might be at play, but do know it's causing distress, I tend to take these requests in stride, and abide by them.I want everyone to feel comfortable. The world in general may not be so kind, but I can control this corner of it.@maloki @kev @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXjNRG1JpZ0120VjU by DistroJunkie@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T13:53:38Z
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@citrustwee@kevHere's one to block.đ
(DIR) Post #9kXjNRgFkIXzKOHSca by citrustwee@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:45:54Z
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@DistroJunkie @kev cuck
(DIR) Post #9kXjQP4htDqM7E84e0 by Dayglochainsaw@cryptids.online
2019-07-05T14:45:11Z
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@kev @brainblasted Yo Kev. Yo dicktweak. Yo shitlips. Yo knucklefuck. You look like richard spencer fucked the guy who invented carbon copy. You look like you email people articles with the subject line "food for thought". You look like you thought framing everything in terms of logic and rationality would make you feel secure but you're still scared and angry all the time and don't know why. You look like you've never eaten pussy in your life.
(DIR) Post #9kXjQPKevubUuhaoVc by Dayglochainsaw@cryptids.online
2019-07-05T14:45:36Z
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@kev @brainblasted Silicon valley bootlicker lookin ass. Tries to disguise defensiveness with snark lookin ass. Always afraid of seeming weak lookin ass. Halfway to a midlife crisis lookin ass. Has no real personality beyond consumption of media lookin ass. Thinks always being smug will prevent you from being hurt lookin ass. Has never had a significant relationship you didn't fuck up because you're terrified of being vulnerable lookin ass.
(DIR) Post #9kXjQPYU6Vf9ba3r3g by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T14:51:50Z
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@Dayglochainsaw youâre just....âhilariousâ. Nice job đ
(DIR) Post #9kXjQPmfFn0OJYhBA0 by citrustwee@mastodon.social
2019-07-05T14:59:52Z
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@kev @Dayglochainsaw he is. aye at least he has a personality
(DIR) Post #9kXjovRHDF3RRONYqu by DashEquals@linuxrocks.online
2019-07-05T15:07:42Z
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@lunchgirl > And [...] time.Yes, I agree, it does take time... but using the language in a non-hurtful was is the process by which it becomes non-hurtful altogether.> Additionally, [...] them.I agree with that, in many contexts, and your personal relationships, it can be a good thing to use more kind language. However, that doesn't mean that other language is wrong to use, or that other projects shouldn't use it.@maloki @kev @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kXnNREZnyYhlBaTCq by ebeth@cybre.space
2019-07-05T15:08:08Z
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@kev hey kev, just fyi there's a whole big bad world out there so maybe spend less time being mad about how people are trying to be thoughtful and empathetic towards each other and more time listening and maybe actually learning something
(DIR) Post #9kXnNReoERXh4XrQ5w by ebeth@cybre.space
2019-07-05T15:11:05Z
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@kev you know what's really starting to wear thin for me? trying to mask "wahh i can't use slurs" under a layer of self-importance and mall-ninja-level tough-guy shit."snowflakes need to learn about the real world" sorry my guy but this *is* the real world, and you're the one who can't handle it
(DIR) Post #9kXsqcGSNC7u8fCPC4 by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T16:49:07Z
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@one @xeno @kev stop oppressing my free speech, shitlord
(DIR) Post #9kXsyDrGzyR6lF2xTE by xeno@witches.live
2019-07-05T16:50:31Z
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@one @xeno @kev bitch i live here
(DIR) Post #9kXt5dj1Dz9p0qirT6 by dankwraith@monads.online
2019-07-05T16:24:10Z
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@kev i translated this toot from white man speak. translation: im a white man and none of this bothers me and i have no empathy for those who have a different life experience so i would rather tell people to shut up about it than examine my own feelings and behavior
(DIR) Post #9kXt8kzgeiASQR0OkC by dankwraith@monads.online
2019-07-05T16:40:35Z
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@kev of course, you knew exactly the response you would get from this post, which is why you made it so you could keep feeding your weird victim complex about how difficult it is to show people the most basic respect.
(DIR) Post #9kXuJaCDF5vA4kaebg by moonman@shitposter.club
2019-07-05T17:05:38.439408Z
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@Dayglochainsaw vulnerability is stupid.
(DIR) Post #9kXvf5V09a27CCCG8m by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T16:55:57Z
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@one @xeno @kev also congrats on unlocking your true form as racist anime girl poster, i knew the owlfox was not quite it
(DIR) Post #9kXwiRWWp4skKK4h4y by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-07-05T17:32:32.142997Z
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@one @kev @xeno yes!
(DIR) Post #9kXwnFCe3g2lYx41Sa by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T17:33:22Z
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@one @xeno @kev :blobcatsip:
(DIR) Post #9kXx8iO0kaza9dcOSu by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T17:37:15Z
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@one @xeno @kev i dont even have to say it anymore you just know its true this owns :blobcatsip:
(DIR) Post #9kXxT3c7XKXhmYuy1o by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T17:40:55Z
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@one @xeno @kev yeah how do you think i found out you're a racist :blobcatsip:
(DIR) Post #9kXxfQ8tbLu5828xSi by uncletrunks@shootjackdorseyinto.space
2019-07-05T17:42:04.486392Z
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@one @kev @xeno @anna no one would ever want to get to know you lmao
(DIR) Post #9kY3bbzIDeDiQrDcoa by Blakely@radical.town
2019-07-05T18:49:42Z
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@one @anna do you realize how anime this sounds? it's written like a joke"heh, you almost made me use a quarter of m y power,, my dear witch."on top of being a racist you're also a complete 12-year old larper too lmao
(DIR) Post #9kY51ZdvetnodzAZii by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T19:05:36Z
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@one @xeno @kev from getting to know about your propensity for posting racist shit
(DIR) Post #9kY53P0s9SIWFrlzfc by anna@witches.live
2019-07-05T19:05:56Z
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@one @Blakely irony :blobcatsip:
(DIR) Post #9kY9M1ISx4Cw1F8S24 by jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninja
2019-07-05T19:54:08Z
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@kevIf someone has special needs and makes you aware of them, then it's not crazy at all to try to accommodate that, is it?
(DIR) Post #9kYER2O6p2hScazEuW by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T20:50:45Z
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@kevIt has truly worn so thin for me that i have been considering getting off of social media altogether, just like i was before i found Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #9kYEcbOb0K7ONjjFiK by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T20:53:04Z
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@DistroJunkieHahaha... blocked... hehehe@citrustwee @kev
(DIR) Post #9kYEeNMc95tRRReDtg by vancha@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T20:53:28Z
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@poetgrant @kev just ignore all that crap. The best thing about mastodon is the instances, maybe watch the local timeline more. Try not to mind the entire fediverse, which is more twitter than twitter :p
(DIR) Post #9kYFGnkkTmXcI5G8Dg by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T21:00:25Z
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@Wolf480plThis would be awesome!@robinjanssens @kev
(DIR) Post #9kYHEFpjouj6Q7VRQG by trickster@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T14:27:59Z
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@succfemboi Damn, due to swidge monopoly I have no other choice but to make you a main contributor to my very important FOSS repo.There's nothing I hate more than new contributors, but alas, the CoC mafia knows where I live.
(DIR) Post #9kYHJu2bkyz8ZODf4i by succfemboi@iscute.moe
2019-07-05T21:23:24.950250Z
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@tricksterI know where your house lives :D
(DIR) Post #9kYMqZNQ6g2Xo8LlYm by SuperDicq@floppy.tokyo
2019-07-05T22:25:19Z
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@kev I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. Maybe on the fediverse it is where there are some very loud minorities.
(DIR) Post #9kYMv8JIAPtLJHaxuq by ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-05T22:26:10.475586Z
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@dankwraith Eat shit you anti-white faggot, lol.
(DIR) Post #9kYN1Cto1CVnHPZR20 by matrix07012@catgirl.life
2019-07-05T22:27:12.907Z
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@dankwraith@monads.online Do you see more in people than their race and sex?@kev@fosstodon.org
(DIR) Post #9kYN1MSsSAugwn34Rk by Jojothegoodperson@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-05T22:27:17.996924Z
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@ChristiJunior @dankwraith Wtf
(DIR) Post #9kYNGI8gomyhsKj1Xc by denza252@shitposter.club
2019-07-05T22:29:59.773437Z
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@trickster @kev When did respect begin to mean mean infantalizing?
(DIR) Post #9kYNOWfcfwM3GA3WgC by cute@deadinsi.de
2019-07-05T22:31:26Z
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@kev I am still lolâin @ white boys rn LMAO
(DIR) Post #9kYNTrdc96QFjmf60G by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2019-07-05T22:32:27.082275Z
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@dankwraith @kev Usually the people who bitch the most about empathy have the least of it. If you genuinely try to be considerate of others first and foremost, other people tend to want to be considerate of you. The opposite effect occurs if you make a bunch of aggressive demands about how people need to conduct themselves around you.
(DIR) Post #9kYNllSfqfDJnI523c by denza252@shitposter.club
2019-07-05T22:35:41.052312Z
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@brainblasted @kev and the name GIMP is an issue?
(DIR) Post #9kYOb009Y57LeqAcBE by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T22:44:54Z
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@jeffalyanak absolutely not. But announcing that youâre offended by someone elseâs use of words does not equate to special needs IMO.
(DIR) Post #9kYOmuCOwpQD8XZojQ by brandon@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T21:00:43Z
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@kev Words like these have been used and continue to be used to make people (like the people you mentioned) feel of less value to society and denigrate them to the point of feeling invalid. This toot breaks our CoC and and as the Admin of Fosstodon you should know better. You're staining the Fosstodon and by extension the FOSS community. You may not have had malice in mind, but that's certainly been how it's perceived, and the effect is the same as if you had malice in mind
(DIR) Post #9kYOpIUxZgCp4xOjCq by beebs@queer.party
2019-07-05T20:04:19Z
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@kev help, help, I'm being oppressedpeople are asking me to be considerate of others
(DIR) Post #9kYOvjSGGQ7sQ8ChtY by jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninja
2019-07-05T22:48:40Z
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@kev If someone is simply hurt by your words or actions and makes you aware of that, then it's still not crazy at all to try to accommodate that.
(DIR) Post #9kYRQynfSbFutlFD2u by jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninja
2019-07-05T23:16:43Z
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@one @kev I'm a very happy person and I'm not easily offended.I just try my best not to hurt others, I don't think that's a bad thing.
(DIR) Post #9kYTrXUdILitvz8Jto by cute@deadinsi.de
2019-07-05T23:43:51Z
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@kev your silence speaks volumes more than your paragraph did cracker boy
(DIR) Post #9kZkCTcgfiLIRArlmC by deejoe@mastodon.sdf.org
2019-07-06T14:21:26Z
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@DashEquals> which is not offensive, even though it's arguably using that slurit's using it, full stop.someone using it while being ignorant of, or worse indifferent to, its history is usually a pretty big red flag for meif I engage or don't block someone once they use it, or other slurs, that way, it's to keep an eye out for whatever other shit they're getting up to@maloki @kev @brainblasted
(DIR) Post #9kZn8Gjow44zBBt7Ca by ashfurrow@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T18:26:16Z
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@kev That's... really unfortunate to hear. I'm having a hard time squaring that circle with your Code of Conduct, which claims to be "radically inclusive" and specifies:> [we are committed to] making participation in Fosstodon an oppression-free experience for everyoneThis kind of opinion kind of makes me question the commitment that your CoC makes. Can you help me understand where you're coming from, here?
(DIR) Post #9kZn8H1XsAG24ABGpU by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-05T22:48:14Z
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@ashfurrow how am I being exclusive by having an opinion of some peopleâs over-sensitivity?
(DIR) Post #9kZn8JpxPhlqn5mYgS by ashfurrow@mastodon.technology
2019-07-05T23:23:10Z
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@kev okay, well how are you being radically inclusive, then? Iâm just confused because your CoC has the language of inclusion, but youâre complaining about pronouns in bios. Something doesnât add up here, yeah?
(DIR) Post #9kZn8K1IjWqRMH5cMi by pandora_parrot@beach.city
2019-07-06T02:59:59Z
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@ashfurrow @kev Yeah wow, that's kinda messed up."We are committed to making participation in Fosstodon an oppression-free experience for everyone, regardless of level of experience, gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, or nationality."But "pronouns in bios make [Kev] cringe"Apparently, you need to be on the approved gender identity list to be "radically included" here? đ¤ˇ
(DIR) Post #9kZrLuyx1J0jZjjFxo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2019-07-06T15:41:34Z
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@ohyran not to mention just unfollowing people whose posts don't feel like a good use of my finite attention. In most situations, unfollow, mute, and block are a much more effective way of changing your online experience than trying to police other people's expression, either directly or via pressure on the admin of their instance. If for no other reason than it's most similar to how we handle in-person social interaction.@Matter @kev
(DIR) Post #9lWUSS7pW7OOQiiLMu by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-07T15:12:00Z
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@ashfurrow hey Ash, sorry been away the last couple days, so not been online much.To me, inclusive means to treat people fairly wherever possible. By âradically inclusiveâ we wanted to articulate that we mean _everyone_.So if someone joins Fosstodon and you message me saying âHey Kev, that person that just joined is homophobicâ I wouldnât just take your word for it, Iâd wait to see evidence of that homophobia before taking action.1/2
(DIR) Post #9lWUSSZppznHpZoi1I by kev@fosstodon.org
2019-07-07T15:17:57Z
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@ashfurrow oh, and the gender thing...That makes me cringe, not because Iâm against the whole they/them thing, but because I think it has no relevance here.Again, Iâd take no action against those who choose to put something like that in their profile.
(DIR) Post #9lWUSTKd21DyAhi4xM by ashfurrow@mastodon.technology
2019-07-07T18:30:24Z
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@kev okay, that helps me understand a bit better. Glad youâre revising your CoC. Itâs very, very difficult to differentiate between when someone else is being over-sensitive, and when we simply lack the perspective to understand their (justified) sensitivity. I err on assuming theyâre justified. Example: to a trans person, their gender identity is always relevant to them. Not so much to you or me, but our gender expression isnât scrutinized by society. You know?
(DIR) Post #9lWUSTo3GclBdxTZom by opal@pl.wowana.me
2019-08-03T22:33:15.918563Z
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@ashfurrow @kev >to a trans person, their gender identity is always relevant to themno it isnt, stop speaking on behalf of me and others
(DIR) Post #9lWUYhIrzxAjF1r7o0 by opal@pl.wowana.me
2019-08-03T22:34:25.600879Z
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@ashfurrow @kev literally fuck off, you arent helping anyone by policing the internet