Post 9k44SIpAxV5QRY5ETg by farhan@mastodon.technology
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 (DIR) Post #9k42A1OwnZp3HmyEQy by erdnaxeli@framapiaf.org
       2019-06-21T07:08:39Z
       
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       People who stop using @fedilab in favor of @Tusky because it can be used by "nazis", do you know Firefox can be use by them too? Or Ubuntu? Or anything else? 😱This is becoming ridiculous.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k44SIpAxV5QRY5ETg by farhan@mastodon.technology
       2019-06-21T07:14:49Z
       
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       @erdnaxeli @fedilab @Tusky while I agree with the logic, Tusky is specifically a Fediverse client. Though, that move is rather silly as it's trivial to remove the commit and rebrand Tusky.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k44SJAnf6NrWcCVBQ by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T07:18:07.372802Z
       
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       @farhan @Tusky @fedilab @erdnaxeli It sets a crappy precedent for the apps. Gab's own apps have already been pulled from both app stores. The same thing can happen to these apps once they start connecting to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k45nS4JsrD99JocHA by dude@take.iteasy.club
       2019-06-21T07:52:56.790527Z
       
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       @erdnaxeli I did the opposite. I quit using @Tusky and switched to @fedilab While this is the second time the fedilab dev has caused concern by his actions, in both cases he seemed to ultimately make the reasonable decision. Ultimately, all any of these apps are for is to connect to an instance that I administrate meaning that I'm perfectly capable of blocking any 'harmful' content myself without the virtue signalling theatrics.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46FFLwko5TowJWSm by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T07:50:12.654789Z
       
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       @feld @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab Not that it matters, but prove it. I'm not going to take the word of a rando on the fedi. I'm not saying ban them from using masto as their server. And hey, if any of those client devs want to allow gab, that's on them. I just won't use their shit. I'm free to do whatever the hell I want with software I write, if people don't like it, they don't have to use it. That's the beauty of free software.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46FFZlvP98VomZ0q by feld@bikeshed.party
       2019-06-21T07:57:56.019511Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab I'm not violating my confidentiality agreement with my employer. I'd love to share details, but it's not possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46SBsyxL2ypdwEIi by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T07:51:20.459525Z
       
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       @feld @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab And thanks for the condensending shit. I've been programming for 30 fucking years. I've been jumped and gay bashed. I don't have any obligation to let these people into my life.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46SC8E2fExav4P3o by feld@bikeshed.party
       2019-06-21T08:00:17.293883Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab I'm sorry you've had to experience that. But you've got to be cognizant that the adult industry is a target of social media right now. We just want to exist in peace, not bother other people who are uninterested in the industry products/services.Censorship is a bitch.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46dGfbVbY6r5xkKO by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:02:10.576999Z
       
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       @feld @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab it is all a moot point anyway, because Gab already forked Tusky.  https://github.com/freespeech4ever/Gabby
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46frPBtn5FMoWPb6 by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:01:37.620903Z
       
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       @feld @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab I have a lot more experience with the adult industry than you think. The fact you assumed I do not, and were condescending over it, proves you don't argue in good faith. I'm done talking to you. Have a nice life.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k46frbx8LIA0OUbUO by feld@bikeshed.party
       2019-06-21T08:02:46.373251Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab wait a minute are you going to block me or make a pull request to Tusky? How does this work now? These rules are so confounding
       
 (DIR) Post #9k470viV42X0otbH0q by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:06:28.541939Z
       
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       @feld @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab the conversation we *should* be having is around Gab's attempt to hijack the ActivityPub ecosystem as a shield for their own operations.  apps will have to consider taking steps to protect their own relationships with their publishers (Google and Apple), which may or may not include blocking gab.personally, i believe software should ideally remain neutral (per the same principles behind net neutrality), but pragmatically speaking, this may not be practical in the case of fediverse apps to adhere to, given the requirements of their publishers.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47XF9iKHRoNKjn16 by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:10:16.988800Z
       
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       @kaniini @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld There's no way around that. It's opensource, and AP is a public protocol. So we need to protect ourselves. Most of the masto community is people who looked for an alternative to other social media that would make us more safe and less vulnerable to attack from people wanting to literally kill us.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47XFMpXVwJ20sGSe by a_breakin_glass@cybre.space
       2019-06-21T08:12:24Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @feld @farhan @fedilab @kaniini but app level blocking arguably lessens that because it undermines instance level blocks by encouraging those affected by app level blocks to fragment across new instances, which then have to be blocked again at an instance level
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47ctiuvJZRdrtqTo by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:13:26.176034Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld actually, there is a way around that.  the rest of us fediverse server implementers can explicitly say "fuck gab, we're not going to work with them."and to be clear, i do not care if Pleroma successfully federates with Gab or not.  i'm quite certain i'm not alone in that opinion amongst other Pleroma maintainers.  i'm not going to go out of my way to break federation with gab, but i'm not going to go out of my way to fix federation with gab either.we do, however, care if Pleroma successfully federates with basically everyone else.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47lxsworWb9iun8i by feld@bikeshed.party
       2019-06-21T08:15:03.736045Z
       
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       @kaniini @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab Report Firefox and get it banned from the App Store for allowing access to cp, nazi garbage, etc and I'll believe you.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47puEKLpbgygnJL6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:15:48.355520Z
       
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       @dude @erdnaxeli @Tusky @fedilab  what's funny I'm alt right and I use tusky but might switch to fedilab like tusky's dev team can't stop alt right and Nazis using there program even gab forked tusky via gabby
       
 (DIR) Post #9k47sBbEk6iDQZb67k by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:16:08.719301Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld like, yeah, the apps being piggybacked on to evade app store exclusion of gab applications is certainly an area of concern for app authorsbut the whole ecosystem will feel the fallout if we do not push back against Gab's attempts to hijack the ActivityPub ecosystem as a shield for their own operationsthis shielding attempt will continue regardless of whether or not gab is blocked by a majority of fediverse instances (i have no doubt it will be, if only because hating Torba is something that almost all fediverse admins can agree on)we need to fight back against their attempts to hijack the good will the AP development community have built around AP
       
 (DIR) Post #9k482zjvB5lFpWoUgC by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:18:10.653218Z
       
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       @bort @feld @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab maybe stop thinking people care about you because you're gay. Like I know people don't care because I'm straight
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48689qKtleo6Qw1A by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:16:58.852358Z
       
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       @kaniini @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld To be clear, I'm only talking about mobile clients here. In Pleroma/Masto's current state, it's up to the admin's to block instances. Making it harder for nazi's and other hate groups from using our client apps, is completely in our right. Especially if its opensource. If they don't like it, they are free to fork the shit or write their own to get around it. My goal is to make it harder for them to CONVENIENTLY be able to download an app and come harass the fedi.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4868Ltc5PPPU4Ynw by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:18:38.901892Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld i don't disagree with that (though please do fully understand the risks that including voluntary censorship will introduce before committing to that), but my point is that Gab's plan is something far more insidious.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k488a6vNXkU54EkZU by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:19:11.239003Z
       
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       @kaniini @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld I hope gab makes their code open
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48BUu5CA1WnecYBU by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:19:41.715800Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld i hope they don't and Gargron sues them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48ElJadOS4ZG6lzE by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:20:18.263153Z
       
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       @bort @kaniini @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld yeah and I'm alt right and I use tusky
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48JZS4AYIZDqMkZU by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:21:10.388297Z
       
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       @kaniini @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld then eugan would have to sue you because you help mastodon as well
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48LYWEbliWuOGJe4 by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:20:44.494720Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini Good for you, blocked.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48LYizqJvRXyEVXM by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:21:31.744461Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini whatever weakling
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48NTquvdy90zr0u8 by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:19:57.002147Z
       
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       @kaniini @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld That's the thing, I write open source shit, if I write a client, people can unban it if they want. The point is to make it a pain in the ass. I want these mother fucking nazi's to work for it, not be given the red carpet.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48NU564vJNiyUL0S by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:21:47.965940Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld sure, but if you are writing a client destined for app stores, this introduces a new variable into that relationship.  all i am saying is, please be mindful of that variable.  if you still believe it is right, despite the introduction of this new variable, then obviously, do what you think is right.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48TC9FfKyXqN9ed6 by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:22:53.507266Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld why would eugen sue me?  neither pleroma, nor any mastodon instance i am involved in violates AGPL.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48TNxdkKokTpoYCG by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:21:54.371001Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini fuck off
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48TODwlhrTIPRZc8 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:22:56.751545Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini no I won't you're acting weak because I care about the fedi just like you do.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48WzSslRJLfJ99M0 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:23:35.917231Z
       
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       @kaniini @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld deal is anyone can fork code
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48YrHY9tAgrkjjnM by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:23:54.987412Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld if they follow the AGPL, which, presently, they are not.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48gDKqZ0kvI1moF6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:25:15.949171Z
       
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       @kaniini @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld well I bet many projects that are picked up violate agpl
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48nFCQ214t69CEdc by bort@comrades.abortu.com
       2019-06-21T08:25:25.354423Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini Look fucko alt right prick. I already know you hate gay peeps as per a previous comment. And they do care, I've been harassed on social media, I've been beat up, I've was outed at 13 in front of 3000 people. You are a fucking worthless human being. I'm not weak, I just have no desire to argue with a little dick little prick who things he's gods gift to everything.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48nFQFCc8Xn1fHBg by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:26:31.890548Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini dude I don't give a care that you are gay grow up
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48qcRC5Y542UiUBU by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:27:08.763068Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini I been harassed online to
       
 (DIR) Post #9k48x1CMwP72ZTpkh6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:28:17.813989Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini you are being weak because oh no someone who is alt right is willing to speak
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49BZ6teeghniD7OS by denza252@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:30:55.588529Z
       
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       @bort @1iceloops123 @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini This is like the navy seals copypasta except 100000% lamer also damn you iceloops for putting this on my feed
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49ChIggniDUYGWUS by kaniini@pleroma.site
       2019-06-21T08:31:07.012309Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld can you find something better to do with your time man
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49Dmw1E5z3FwBNb6 by fuxoft@kompost.cz
       2019-06-21T08:31:17Z
       
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       OMG time do block nazis in Firefox and Ubuntu RIGHT NOW!@erdnaxeli @fedilab @Tusky
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49Ep6AfQ8GFxQOJ6 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:31:31.217685Z
       
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       @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini heck you would think a alt right person wouldn't care about a decentralized platform but I do
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49eouXzEelCiNrzU by foggy@hidden.blue
       2019-06-21T08:35:34.444246Z
       
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       @1iceloops123 @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini ImAlTrIgHtAndIuSeTuSkY SoMeDaYiLlBeOlDeNoUgHtOvOoOte
       
 (DIR) Post #9k49iKH3psbRLNaPi4 by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
       2019-06-21T08:36:50.776302Z
       
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       @foggy @bort @erdnaxeli @farhan @fedilab @feld @kaniini nice sperg
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4NXukZHGtCe2JkY4 by Mac_CZ@mastodon.macsnet.cz
       2019-06-21T11:11:45Z
       
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       @kaniini @feld @bort @erdnaxeli @fedilab @farhan If Google, Apple would follow that reasoning, they would have to block web browsers, because they don't censor content.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4QslKnmNfZO1tlRY by Tusky@mastodon.social
       2019-06-21T11:49:04Z
       
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       @fuxoft @erdnaxeli @fedilab I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is ridicilous!Imagine being offended by people being actively anti-fascist. :OMEGALUL:
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4Tr3730dnRo9L7Ka by masterofthetiger@theres.life
       2019-06-21T07:31:59Z
       
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       @erdnaxeliLet's have all browsers stop access to Gab! And DNS servers! Let's have Ubuntu require a "Prove you're not a Nazi" button. xD@fedilab @Tusky
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4UDbAb49IpnzkgxE by bigl0af@social.foxfam.club
       2019-06-21T12:26:34.538562Z
       
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       @Mac_CZOh let's submit a PR to the glibc team so Gab doesn't even resolve on Linux at all! πŸ˜πŸ˜‚@farhan @fedilab @erdnaxeli @bort @feld @kaniini
       
 (DIR) Post #9k4ghlGBJZLFEjVtS4 by leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com
       2019-06-21T14:46:31.146763Z
       
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       @Tusky @fedilab @erdnaxeli @fuxoft1561128376711_30891560884918008…
       
 (DIR) Post #9k533ahdRd3ZrAAXZI by feld@bikeshed.party
       2019-06-21T18:56:57.599892Z
       
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       @Mac_CZ @farhan @fedilab @erdnaxeli @bort @kaniini browsers have more political influence than Fediverse though.
       
 (DIR) Post #9k8EK98mr3niGcqUU4 by licho@gnusocial.no
       2019-06-23T07:47:04+00:00
       
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       Don't give them any ideas now.