Post 9jsYuO3jkrPJW0gPB2 by umad80@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #9jrOaDmF53yz8OHlKq by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T04:50:33Z
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The always interesting Steve Sailer on an important Obama-era shift in Democratic Party politics. "What accounts for The Great Awokening that began in roughly 2013? Why did vast numbers of white Democrats suddenly subscribe to theories that only Grievance Studies majors took seriously before?"https://www.takimag.com/article/the-great-awokening-conspiracy-theory/
(DIR) Post #9jrQFlOp4vtvEshi9Q by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T04:51:26Z
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Words like “patriarchy,” “mansplaining,” “toxic masculinity,” “whiteness,” “non-binary,” and “Islamophobia” exploded in popularity. I think it can be explained as a social/tactical shift caused by the internal logic of leftism, but maybe other factors are involved. Some rich people did benefit....
(DIR) Post #9jrQFlhFyOe8A3KQsq by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T05:08:07Z
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A related take on the culture war and the powers of social media."The Left has won the culture wars. Now they’re just driving around shooting survivors"“The most powerful people in the world today are the people who are writing the algorithms for Twitter, Facebook and Instagram because they’re controlling the spread of information. They’re literally rewriting people’s brains. They’re programming the culture.”https://www.redstate.com/alexparker/2019/06/14/tech-billionaire-joe-rogan-‘the-left-won-culture-wars-now-theyre-just-driving-around-shooting-survivors/
(DIR) Post #9jrQFlrXMAryfw8duK by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T05:10:54Z
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@knotreally Then how did Trump win?
(DIR) Post #9jrTN4XOcZ2IU7tHwu by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T05:45:51Z
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@ThomasWic Many reasons. He ran a smart campaign. He opposed illegal immigration. Lots of people wanted a change from the Obama years. Hillary was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign. Democrats were split over Bernie. Some were "high on their own supply" and took Trump's defeat for granted. But I think relentless anti-Trump bias by the MSM and Silicon Valley social media took a toll. Not enough to beat him, but it probably cost him a few states. And their bias is ramping up for 2020.
(DIR) Post #9jrdOuCt06k4Z6oIcK by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T07:38:14Z
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@knotreally What has Trump been doing since being elected?
(DIR) Post #9jrphwIGfIdHzPAb0C by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T09:56:08Z
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@knotreally @ThomasWic Some good points to ponder but there IS this..74,000 requests for a 20,000 seat arena.(as of 3 days ago) And thats just one rally-Fla. His popularity is still strong..And I may be over positive but a lot of things between now and the election could happen like reports being declassified showing what REALLY happened and other things like maybe a trade deal with China,the economy,etc..He even has Mexico cooperating with him now..Id say its too early to tell yet.
(DIR) Post #9jrpmUx7kIsCdmSCps by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T09:56:57Z
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@knotreally @ThomasWic Im not counting him out ..far from it..
(DIR) Post #9jsAN2JJCKC1beWxzk by retro64XYZ@mastodon.xyz
2019-06-15T13:47:38Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally being the President?
(DIR) Post #9jsGOfX5SIS5Ga8Z4y by maat@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T14:55:11Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally because the wizard of oz is ineffectual outside his emporium. his lightshow doesn't penetrate to the man with calluses and dirt on his hands, the man who measures life by the bread on his table.
(DIR) Post #9jsHCjrdcpEXBBco3U by lisapretzel@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T15:04:13Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally Systematically destroying his enemies. They are beating themselves apart against the rock of his Presidency. It's a wonder!
(DIR) Post #9jsIoBmsrz9yS0p4hU by TommyDK@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T15:22:11Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally Winning
(DIR) Post #9jsPgyRslQ1WjXVRAm by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T16:39:19Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally People have to stop thinking that the popularity of something on the internet is popular outside of the internet. There are billions of people in the world and I say maybe a third of them are regulars online. I'd say less than that engage on social media. And even less probably know of the politically correct assholes. And those assholes aren't that large of a group, they just scream loud.
(DIR) Post #9jsYuNHscn7t7aIBaC by JeanK@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T08:19:25Z
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@knotreally bullshit. They did the same thing in 2016. Who is POTUS? Never underestimate Patriots 🥰🥰
(DIR) Post #9jsYuNR64WUzaAbXwu by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T16:49:48Z
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@JeanK I don't underestimate patriots, but I think you underestimate the power of the people controlling social media. Most voters don't follow politics they way we do. They see what's in their social media feeds. It's proven that votes can be shifted by manipulating those feeds.
(DIR) Post #9jsYuNZxXZaW1ekclM by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T17:25:42Z
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@JeanK In a democracy, the masses of undecided voters and people who don't care much about politics are crucial. Parties try to rally them with persuasion and GOTV efforts. Social media has unprecedented power to influence them, and social media (and the world's biggest search engine) is controlled by the left. That's a BFD.https://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/E4512
(DIR) Post #9jsYuNleq4wgbwDxzs by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T17:57:29Z
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@knotreally @JeanK But are those masses on social media? Are they even interested in searching about politics? Undecided voters I would think are most likely NOT political. These people most likely would be better reached by conventional methods: Ground game, political ads on TV, etc. It's smart to use social media to one’s advantage, but one shouldn't rely on the idea that it’s the be all to end all.
(DIR) Post #9jsYuNuAKRkd2KClG4 by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:10:27Z
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@umad80 @JeanK I never meant to imply that social media was everything, just that it's a Very Big Thing. Ground game and TV ads are fine, but are old school. Today leftists at Facebook, Twitter, and Google are deciding what *billions* of people see, every single day.
(DIR) Post #9jsYuO3jkrPJW0gPB2 by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:21:35Z
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@knotreally @JeanK Are they though? 69% of Americans are on social media, but what number is paying attention to politics? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/10/share-of-u-s-adults-using-social-media-including-facebook-is-mostly-unchanged-since-2018/If this survey is accurate, there was literally no mass exodus from social media from last year. Even with hollering about FB privacy concerns. Which says... Do people pay attention? I bet a good portion of those 69% aren't aware of it
(DIR) Post #9jsZYYuIqGyAk6QXoG by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:29:51Z
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@umad80 @knotreally @JeanK The GOAL is to make leftists think that social media has allowed them to "win the culture war."It's clear that Trump is working to give them that idea.Research Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos.She fooled all the "experts"--to the tune of $9 billion. Not a single person outside her Silicon Valley startup questioned her ridiculous claims, and when she was exposed as a fraud, nobody believed it.Trump is ruthlessly using that credulity to his advantage.
(DIR) Post #9jsa8GbkM7e8PglzGa by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:36:19Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally @JeanK Yes! And it's a brilliant strategy.Think about: If the left is winning the culture war, why is the number of the pro-life, especially with young people, rising?Why is Gen Z considered the most conservative since the WW2 generation?And I bet once we get rid of the Shapiro wing of the Republican party, more folks will identify themselves as on the right.
(DIR) Post #9jsaWZGEeis9DNIaSe by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:40:42Z
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@umad80 @knotreally @JeanK People tell me, "Don't get overconfident."But Trump is in charge.No amount of confidence is TOO MUCH confidence.
(DIR) Post #9jsaw7503V4PLEDyrY by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:45:19Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally @JeanK This Florida rally ticket requests really gave me a shot in the arm. I had confidence in Trump getting a second term, but this was an extra boost!
(DIR) Post #9jsbeo31f6yFLXc1zs by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:53:24Z
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@knotreally @umad80 @JeanK The assumption that they're operating on is that people haven't made up their minds yet.By allowing them to think that, we set them up for catastrophe.
(DIR) Post #9jscAorIBQ2N7yOBnM by Aristocratic_Cthulhu@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:59:11Z
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@ThomasWic The only way to be overconfident with President Trump is if you're against him.@umad80 @knotreally @JeanK
(DIR) Post #9jscCbjJxwcCzOVtHU by bwa_aptos@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:59:31Z
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@ThomasWic @knotreally The way they describe it, they say that Trump ran before they perfected the algorithms. They say that Trump used the algorithms against them, but now they've had 2 years to hone the algorithms against Trump supporters.It wasn't that many years ago all of Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook did not reorder or rampantly censor posts (that we know of); that all started a handful of years ago. Now they can to a large degree control almost everyone that uses affected apps.
(DIR) Post #9jscCeum7oYmrmta3E by murph2020@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T18:59:31Z
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@ThomasWic @umad80 @knotreally @JeanK Why does the constitution say Congress should establish the post office and postal routes? Because the sovereignty of the people depends upon the lines of communication.What is the 'culture war' to social media? It's not about winning or losing, it's only a means to usurp that power, breaking the nation down to the atomic level, essential relationships between persons, then interjecting conflicts to restructure them.Trump doesn't control that.
(DIR) Post #9jshiynsDLy7aUtkvI by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T20:01:22Z
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@ThomasWic @umad80 @JeanK "It's clear that Trump is working to give them that idea." [That social media allowed the Left to win the culture war.]In many ways the Left *did* win. We have same sex marriage that we didn't vote for. Every major corporation now celebrates Pride month. Drag queen story time for kids is a thing. But Trump can use that momentum against them, in a judo/Aikido way, by (e.g.) trolling them into "going too far."
(DIR) Post #9jsiUQPpN2oqpsH5tY by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T20:09:58Z
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@ThomasWic @umad80 @JeanK Many people haven't made up their minds! That's true every election. As polarizing as Trump is, there are still many people who don't know what to think. They have mixed feelings, or they only tune into politics at election time. Political parties always have to work to persuade those people. Thus it's crucial to understand the "hidden persuasion" power of big tech, and how they use it.
(DIR) Post #9jskuWVbXSu1AeY6tc by umad80@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T20:19:23Z
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@knotreally @ThomasWic @JeanK And I don't think anyone is saying to ignore. That's how we got Obama for 8 years. What we are saying is to not believe we’re going to lose because of some misguided notion that Big Tech is going to control everything. They are a small piece of the larger picture.
(DIR) Post #9jsl32Niv6KKL6vGuu by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T20:38:38Z
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@umad80 @knotreally @JeanK Trump is better off now than he was in 2016, and the American voter views social media in a more negative light than in 2016.This is so easy to see.And the idea that people haven't already made up their minds about Trump is crazy.
(DIR) Post #9jslVqEx8mWN56YUCm by swirlygal@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-15T20:42:58Z
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@knotreally @umad80 @JeanK Give some credit to the people on social media, who do not allow it to form their opinions. I only look at facebook to see friend's pics, I am there anon, I am on twitter to support Trump only, well and for funnies, I never use google, who does that?
(DIR) Post #9jtHRVBEhDuj8jn7M8 by jaybug@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-16T02:41:36Z
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@ThomasWic @umad80 @knotreally @JeanK I was watching the news today, and they were discussing the upcoming Democrats debates, and talking as if the election were this Fall. It got me thinking that we are almost still a year and a half away. People will get so burned out by it all by this time next year, let alone by when the election actually occurs.I think those of US not in the Leftist groupthink need to keep in touch, and tell people that we like Trump.
(DIR) Post #9jtI1CPFyT3TL4N3x2 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-16T02:48:03Z
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@jaybug @umad80 @knotreally @JeanK The last Democrat standing will be utterly unviable politically, having promised to be an open-borders Stalinist who will appoint only gangbangers to the judiciary, outlaw the First Amendment, create separate internal nations based on race, confiscate all income, and build nuclear weapons for Iran.
(DIR) Post #9jtKDdhUWMpZNCxZHE by jaybug@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-16T03:12:43Z
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@ThomasWic @umad80 @knotreally @JeanK As Fake News ratings/viewers dwindle, how long can any of those far-Left useful idiots keep going? Without their propagandists reaching most Americans, their words will not even reach deaf ears.Amazing what a full time job, and a little money that can go toward the things you want to do for yourself, does. I kind of think the Democrat convention next year will be like Democrat convention in Chicago 1968, but on the inside of the building, not outside.
(DIR) Post #9jtU5W2Q7oTmpkVwjg by cshores8@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-16T05:03:17Z
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@ThomasWic @jaybug @umad80 @knotreally @JeanK Then “the last Democrat standing” you so *accurately* describe will face the Best President of All Time. Then, Sadly and PATHETICALLY this “last Democrat standing” will actually get some votes!
(DIR) Post #9jvaebnTh2Las5Yt4i by JeanK@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-17T05:26:17Z
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@ThomasWic @jaybug @umad80 @knotreally I have heard about the first step program, and apparently the 2nd part is underway. Tonight I heard about the program they are working on, sort of pell grant idea. It is to steer people who don’t want to go to college to trade schools. Building up the infrastructure to allow smart/average, every American people to be plumbers, electricians etc. I hope in his upcoming rallies he drives these programs home. So much being done, so little heard if. Gr8 stuff ❤️
(DIR) Post #9jvyQy3iWbYklGBaHA by RonOgletree@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-17T08:54:56Z
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@knotreally @JeanK The one thing the people at social media can't control is the level of bullshit. Far more people are in tuned to the old saying of;Don't piss on my boots while trying to tell me its raining.It is not proven. Wasn't 2016 evidence enough for you?Your attempt to distract from the real enemy of truth of the mass media is telling.Even the President is now tweeting regularly of his disdain of them and he is gaining traction as well. Not to mention predicting their demise.
(DIR) Post #9jxZ32D7KR1m9JzfJQ by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-18T04:09:14Z
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@RonOgletree @JeanK "Your attempt to distract from the real enemy of truth of the mass media is telling."Who, me? I'm agreeing that the mass media is often an "enemy of truth"!Like I said in another thread, Trump did overcome social media and MSM bias in 2016, but it cost him votes, and it costs him support today. In order to combat that bias, we have to recognize it and know how it works. It would be foolish to dismiss real evidence that Big Tech can and does sway votes.
(DIR) Post #9jxZ32T4N7muwnSPB2 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-18T04:17:43Z
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@knotreally @RonOgletree @JeanK Bunk.Trump doesn't waste his time on things that don't matter.Big Tech can't win elections. You're conveniently forgetting that Trump defied ALL PREVIOUS CONVENTIONAL POLITICAL WISDOM and won in a way that not a single person outside his campaign predicted.Except for me.I have have a track record, while all YOU'RE doing is repeating yourself like a goddam doom-parrot.Find something else to talk about. Defeatism isn't allowed here.
(DIR) Post #9jxa6EhLSMtPhZDsbA by knotreally@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-18T04:29:29Z
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@ThomasWic @RonOgletree @JeanK I bet on Trump in 2016. I've supported him here, elsewhere, and even under my real name on Facebook (with some bad fallout). I've been following you and a few other MAGA types for years, because I find you interesting, insightful, and inspiring.I am MAGA but also live and work in tech in a center of anti-Trump hatred and bias. I know how hard they will work to defeat Trump "by any means necessary." I want us all to know what'll be thrown at us.
(DIR) Post #9jxarntiP422Tugtns by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-18T04:38:06Z
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@knotreally @RonOgletree @JeanK We've had this exchange many times before.Since you're like a machine and will simply repeat yourself forever, I will excuse myself from having to endure that.