Post 9jouWtML9R5803kLUe by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
(DIR) More posts by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
(DIR) Post #9jouFzR3J89DvBtJL6 by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-13T23:07:58Z
1 likes, 2 repeats
reminder that the guy #BryanLunduke that claimed mozilla is sponsoring "#antifa email" is marketing director at #purism. He claimed that #mozilla would by this, support a domestic terrorist organisation. In fact they where supporting riseup.net a hosting collective focused on security.see here for reffer: https://todon.nl/@paulfree14/100317193468374457When I was pointing him out on his errors and miss understanding of what antifa actually is, he claimed me doing libel. I gave him my word that he will be driven off from here, when he does not change his agenda....now he's back as marketing director of #purism. How to respond to this?cc @purism see also:https://twitter.com/BryanLunduke/status/1139231935102775296
(DIR) Post #9jouFzfESPUSdAWdRQ by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-13T23:39:30Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@purism having #BryanLunduke to be part of your company is actually harmfull for your brand, except when you try to apeal to the right wing.
(DIR) Post #9jouFzmg0jRf0G0a2q by gabriele@social.lucci.xyz
2019-06-13T23:43:50Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14Are you really accusing @lunduke of being "alt-right"? Jesus, stop embarrassing yourself, kid!@purism
(DIR) Post #9jouFzyNJEnpaXTvHM by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-13T23:53:44Z
9 likes, 1 repeats
@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism Wait. Am I alt-right again? :)I can never keep track. Some days I'm a communist. Other days a fascist. Occasionally a Liberal. Today, I guess, I'm alt-right! :)Hey @paulfree14: I don't think you and I are as different as you might think. My guess is you're a nice guy that means well and strives to do good in the world.Maybe we can both be alt-Awesome?
(DIR) Post #9jouGqcvXi8ctMr2hs by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-13T23:58:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeTo be fair, if you consider antifascism to be terrorism while working for a company that prides itself in providing a platform for violent extremists, you're just a bad person, regardless of what label you want to throw out@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism
(DIR) Post #9jouGqvMRAspoXTlRI by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-13T23:59:57Z
5 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism Wow!1) Being against fascism is not terrorism and I have never said anything remotely like that.2) I do not work for a company that "prides itself in providing a platform for violent extremists." You're gonna need to back that one up.3) That was a really mean post.
(DIR) Post #9jouV9OkY2pzAG2kFs by bigl0af@social.foxfam.club
2019-06-14T00:05:41.178774Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke clearly you're guilty of wrong think 😂BTW love your content!
(DIR) Post #9jouWtML9R5803kLUe by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-06-14T00:06:01.519066Z
8 likes, 2 repeats
@lunduke @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele people are calling the mild mannered jewish man that talks about linux and free software all day an ALT RIGHT FASCIST? not surprised since if you support freedom you're OBVIOUSLY a literal facist :P
(DIR) Post #9joupryyUikDEQrnyy by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-13T23:46:04Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@purism I mean, how can you employ someone that took multible times position against a libre privacy focused hoster because their service apeals to antifacists as a company that aims to do the same? The gun you're holding is shooting in your feets, you may have not noticed. * servicetoot.
(DIR) Post #9joupsB1luNxpoVQlk by moonman@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:09:27.936568Z
25 likes, 15 repeats
@paulfree14 @purism21a5656c2f883780.jpg
(DIR) Post #9jouroLSzM2OWwJShU by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:05:11Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke1. You wrote an article where you described antifascists as terrorists2. Are you saying you no longer work for Purism? Because their main selling point for Librem Social is that violent extremists are allowed to do whatever they want3. I don't care about the feelings of people who dedicate their life's work to defending violent extremism@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism
(DIR) Post #9jouroSYYzi0svd7ke by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:06:56Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism @steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism 1) No, I definitely did not. I *did* make video where I talk about a *specific* group and how their official status within the US government could impact donations coming into supporting organizations. That's a BIG difference.2) That is *definitely* not true. Please find *anywhere* where we state that. That's pretty over the top.3) You don't have to care about my feelings. I still care about yours.
(DIR) Post #9jouue9VLH2rmo4OUS by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:03:22Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @gabriele @purism
(DIR) Post #9jouueK8hjYIJn2t4C by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:08:54Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @steven @gabriele @purism Yes. That's a thing. I discuss legal status and statements made by government officials about a specific organization (one that associates with *many* other loosely knit organizations sharing a name). How is that alt-right?
(DIR) Post #9jouueXxsKbx0fVvcG by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-06-14T00:10:19.716535Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @purism @gabriele @steven @paulfree14 something like "everyone that isn't antifa is a fascist" i'd assume.
(DIR) Post #9jouw4MJONZtM0jrfc by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:08:37Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukePurism specifically hired Eugen to create a Mastodon fork to provide safe harbor for violent extremists.How are you even trying to deny this? Purism deliberately designed Librem Social to be a safe space for Nazis to plan attacks, and there is a paper trail of all of this@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism
(DIR) Post #9jouw4buSO3S8O2Jyy by mono@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:10:35.258778Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke lol
(DIR) Post #9jov3UiXn2gZ8Ag7Bg by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:09:48Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeYou now acknowledge saying that people opposed to fascism are terrorists, I'm glad you're able to admit thisHowever, with the other issue, Purism specifically hired Eugen to create a Mastodon fork to provide safe harbor for violent extremists.How are you even trying to deny this? Purism deliberately designed Librem Social to be a safe space for Nazis to plan attacks, and there is a paper trail of all of this@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism
(DIR) Post #9jov3Uvf0HB3mqoadE by dielan@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:11:55.303924Z
5 likes, 0 repeats
@stevenSteven bro you need to step it up. This isn't good enough @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lundukeRoma_1560471108621_XZST419Z7L.g…
(DIR) Post #9jov7tBgkjcGBKPENU by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:11:08Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism Huh? I acknowledged... what? HUH? I think you might be having an argument with someone else that is not me.Also...There *definitely* is not a paper trail proving that. Because it's clearly not true.Read here:https://librem.one/stay-safe/and here:https://librem.one/conduct/
(DIR) Post #9jovR0tcJhrRaj4Xrs by karabiner@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:16:10.966400Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke is this a bot?
(DIR) Post #9jovSlJZDen3qU2nJI by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:13:44Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeSo your company didn't hire Eugen to fork Mastodon? Fascists and alt-right are banned from Librem Social, and it's easy to report fascists so they can be banned?Do you have any proof to back up your claims? Because they seem to be in direct conflict with the statements of the company you work for@gabriele @paulfree14 @purism
(DIR) Post #9jovYCB2lxDCbdeFJQ by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-06-14T00:17:28.264684Z
7 likes, 0 repeats
@purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke @steven it's best to ignore the far left peanut gallery and focus on the needs of the demographic that actually care about what you are doing and would be potential customers.
(DIR) Post #9jovbJxcI3k7cArGJk by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:17:47Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@purismYou didn't hire Eugen to fork Mastodon?You ban fascists and alt-right from your instance?You provide an easy way to report fascists on your instance?When did all these changes happen???@lunduke @gabriele @paulfree14
(DIR) Post #9jovc67tDATszw28zg by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:11:25Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@lundukeSaying people are terrorists because they oppose fascism is pretty fucked up, especially when you consider the fact that you're currently working for an organization that promotes and caters to violent extremists@paulfree14 @gabriele @purism
(DIR) Post #9jovc6MQL86hj0pkeG by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:13:23Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @paulfree14 @gabriele @purism I'm not saying that. Not in the slightest.I was covering how government officials consider a specific organization. Had zero to do with my own viewpoints.And... can you point to where Purism does what you say?
(DIR) Post #9jovc6WLkE2yDnTg7U by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:15:50Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeWhich specific organization? The screenshot refers only to Antifa, and there aren't any antifa groups that can be described as terrorist organizationsIt's also weird that you're claiming Purism didn't fork Mastodon when that's clearly a lie@paulfree14 @gabriele @purism
(DIR) Post #9jovn4bVDCDFSh7OYi by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:20:00Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@purismSo, again, for the record, you're saying Purism did NOT hire Eugen to provide a custom fork of Mastodon for Purism, yes?@lunduke @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jovnrbB3C4FPsLKM4 by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:16:46Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @gabriele @purism > I discuss legal status and statementsno, what you did was supporting and repeating the narrative of the US right wing goverment. Antifa is the short for antifascist or antifascism. And anti fascist is someone that does opose facism. You asigned this to be terrorism. You took position against antifacists in support of an right wing goverment. ...and you even didn't dare to apologize for that, but you rather justify what you did.
(DIR) Post #9jovnwo7gUOTZTREjA by jeff@social.i2p.rocks
2019-06-14T00:20:18.899472Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke @purism I'd like to report bad people too, like the activists stirring up a hullabaloo about nothing to invoke censorship of people they don't like.
(DIR) Post #9jovr2FLuyfDJEeBBg by astheroth@mstdn.io
2019-06-14T00:20:52Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@moonman @purism @paulfree14 dude, marketing means to organize the meansof production to get improvements in your future income -in short making money-, not making politics
(DIR) Post #9jowspebo9rGmrsh96 by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:07:20Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@jeff @purism @gabriele @paulfree14 Shrug! :)
(DIR) Post #9jowuRP8wCuC9rPkvI by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:21:02Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@purismSo, again, for the record, you're saying Purism did NOT hire Eugen to provide a custom fork of Mastodon for Purism, yes?Also, why did you repeat lies about Antifa? Did you take care to point out that the US government was incorrect in their assessment?@lunduke @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jowuRbYC4pWmLDfGK by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:23:30Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele You are saying that I said things... that I simply did not say.It's difficult to defend -- or apologize for -- words... when I did not say those words.I respect your passion on the various topics -- and I in no way want to belittle those ideas or you personally. But I simply did not say the things you say I did.Perhaps your fight is elsewhere, my friend?
(DIR) Post #9jowuRkldoCdEvX1d2 by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:23:52Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeOf course you're not going to apologize for spreading the lie that antifascists are terrorists, you work for a company that promotes Nazis@purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jowuRvkywzdn0fnl2 by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:24:45Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele I mean, I suppose I could apologize... but I'd be apologizing for saying something... that I never actually said. So it would be fairly hollow... no?
(DIR) Post #9jowuS6OLPV4JzeIKm by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:26:35Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeYou repeated government propaganda that you knew to be false. Seems worthy of an apologyAnd then, just minutes ago, you lied and claimed that your company didn't hire Eugen to provide Purism with a custom Mastodon fork. You should also apologize for that bald-faced lieNo wonder you have no credibility, you seem to be pathologically dishonest @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jowuSIRcb8ovNHv7Y by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:29:46Z
5 likes, 3 repeats
@steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele Neither of those statements were made by me.Please provide exact quotes and a direct link to where you obtained those quotes.Having differing ideas to me is ok (even good!). Having different opinions about the same statement is also totally ok. But you are saying I said things that I know for a fact I never said.That borders into Libelous territory.
(DIR) Post #9jowvSGpCigX8J0VCi by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:30:54Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @purism @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jowvSTESabrkmoPXk by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:32:26Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @steven @purism @gabriele Correct. Maybe you just need to re-read the source? Are you upset because the headline / title does not contain all the nuance of the video itself?
(DIR) Post #9jox1lsxBmVfhmqyQ4 by rune@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:28:26Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @lunduke @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele just out of curiosity, what's the issue in purism having a fork of mastodon?I would actually be concerned if they didn't have the option to fix issues without waiting for upstream. Just from a development perspective.
(DIR) Post #9jox1m8YFmzEUA9QjQ by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:30:50Z
3 likes, 2 repeats
@rune @steven @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele Shrug. We forked Mastodon. Talk about it a bunch -- including in multiple blog posts. Not exactly a secret... it's a good thing! :)
(DIR) Post #9jox28A4MpGynF1x9U by karabiner@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:34:05.849332Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @gabriele @purism @steven @paulfree14 clickbait headline?
(DIR) Post #9joxDuMjU99hTuZNEu by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T00:35:32Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@karabiner @purism @gabriele @paulfree14 @steven Accurate headline that, due to the nature of such things, cannot contain enough words to fully encapsulate the nuances of the issue being fully discussed within the body of the piece -- and which, quite correctly, evokes an opinion among those reading it who have an understanding of the topic.
(DIR) Post #9joxh5Wt3d9cVGEWie by karabiner@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T00:41:29.983804Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke I'm so used to mastodon instances blocking this server entirely that I'm amazed you even saw my post, tbh
(DIR) Post #9joyV8sorXRjNrMMD2 by Niquarl@mastodon.social
2019-06-14T00:50:17Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism Do you mean you disagree with the Trump Administration officials considering Antifa to be a domestic terrorist organization, or are you trying to ignore that ?Your show is essential an opinion show and what you said was clearly perceived as this being your opinion. If you want to make it clear that is not your opinion you can do so quite simply.
(DIR) Post #9joya1GgbPyrDKqgL2 by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:51:18Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @karabiner @purism @gabriele @steven it's not only a headline. it's the video description.it's what is being said in the video. it's how you defend this position. I mean just this screenshot proofs you wrong already. there's many reasons you could have choosen to speak how important antifascism in the times of rising fascism is and maybe do even some historical references, but nope you choosed to describe it as terrorism. And that is YOU, who describes #antifa as terrorism. Take responsible for that, rather then arguing someone else said that befor.
(DIR) Post #9jp0QyB6vBG8vu3Mci by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T01:12:07Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeThat's exactly what I'm sayingPurism was very transparent that they made changes to Mastodon in order to provide Nazis a safe spaceAt least you've stopped lying and finally started acknowledging that your company goes out of its way to promote violent extremism, and does so publicly and without shame@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp0jiDQUhYGva4cYi by shit@pl.smuglo.li
2019-06-14T01:15:35.235049Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism @rune @lunduke kikes get off the fediverseeee reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
(DIR) Post #9jp0oQQe3JcvD8VIhc by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T01:16:26.574964Z
7 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism @rune @lunduke Free expression is not safe. I don't care about your feelings. Freedom is a higher value than safety.
(DIR) Post #9jp0vCXE6kRq9AoUGu by admin@happylittle.cloudns.cc
2019-06-14T01:17:39.584388Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @paulfree14 @steven Some serious autism-posting going on in this thread about antifa being called terrorists. Would recommend reading.I remember that was the headline in the news back when NJDHS published this article about antifa. https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists The headline is a bit deceiving because the article says that criminal members of anarchists groups in the area are the terrorists. It's that they're all loosely affiliated under the banner of 'antifa.' This is even the gist of the article as it was originally written https://web.archive.org/web/20170613021027/https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa when it was a lot heavier on the antifa side of the story before the (fascist-right-wing) government sanitized it, probably after receiving push back, from antifa supporters.I might agree that people who "carry out criminal and violent acts during otherwise First Amendment-protected events and protests" are akin to terrorists. But to equate Mozilla $$$ -> email service -> activists -> antifa -> anarchists -> terrorists to Mozilla $$$ -> terrorists is a big stretch. Unfortunately I can't find this video to see if that's even what was said, only the screenshot of the description where that's vaguely implied. It's funny that this is barely at issue though, mostly people with hurt feelings that anyone could consider implying the potential possibility that somebody who was anti-fascist could ever be a terrorist.
(DIR) Post #9jp0vIWNqnL4iIStn6 by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T01:17:41.097374Z
7 likes, 3 repeats
@judgedread @steven @gabriele @lunduke @paulfree14 @purism @rune Freedom is for humans, safety is for cattle.
(DIR) Post #9jp3uI0kYtJAhhsav2 by bigl0af@social.foxfam.club
2019-06-14T01:51:01.230322Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@steven you sound like a bigot. And by bigot I mean: @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism @rune @lundukeTusky_1560477029777_3KFJN7IVW1.…
(DIR) Post #9jp40p16lBEqo6A6Cm by ThisIsLeeloo@chaos.social
2019-06-14T01:52:07Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism antifa literally protects my gay and trans friends at pride festivals from getting attacked by proudboys and patriot prayer, and given that you call antifa a "terrorist organization" i think it's safe to say that no matter what you call yourself it's definitively not good
(DIR) Post #9jp4HqDJYyrhRSzFCa by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T01:55:19Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism That's just it. I didn't say that. You appear to be angry at me for something I didn't actually say.
(DIR) Post #9jp4TNFV4ySD5IVaNM by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T01:57:13Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @purism YOU 👏 ARE 👏 A 👏 LIAR
(DIR) Post #9jp4bVqoytm84zqVWK by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T01:58:52Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele Again... I didn't say any of that. You can be mad at me. That's ok. But I didn't say what you say I said.
(DIR) Post #9jp4wljz6BRHRSmeqe by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:02:42Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @purism How does that make me a liar? Government agencies called Antifa a terrorist organization. Not me. I reported on the potential problems relating to a corporation donating to another organization which provides support to Antifa. Specifically around what problems that could raise for the donating company. Are you just unhappy with the title wording?
(DIR) Post #9jp54vBlr2jB3sfTlo by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:04:11Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@shit @purism @rune @gabriele @paulfree14 @steven Whoah now. Be cool. Everyone, even if you disagree with them, is a person.
(DIR) Post #9jp57diXGml7k9I1AG by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:04:37Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeYou literally said that Purism explained this in a blog postNow you're denying saying thatHow much is Purism paying you to lie?@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp5CHsPtrmtSC7yYC by ThisIsLeeloo@chaos.social
2019-06-14T02:05:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @paulfree14 @gabriele @purism Let's just try to parse out where you stand.Several minutes ago you denied having called antifa a domestic terrorist organization, even though you did.Now you excuse that as just using the government-prescribed language (even though you still used the words "domestic terrorist organization").Do you support groups that protect LGBTQ people from being physically assaulted by actual terrorists like Proudboys, or are you opposed to them?
(DIR) Post #9jp5NQhJRcU9zrFMg4 by yuduki@aria.company
2019-06-14T02:07:35.139054Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@mono @steven @gabriele @lunduke @paulfree14 @purism lol
(DIR) Post #9jp5SjYUl7uzvmeT6u by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:08:17Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @purism > How does that make me a liarGovernment agencies called Antifa a terrorist organization. Not me.....because: Whom do you try to convice that sayn "antifa - a domestic terrorist organisation" is actually not sayn "antifa - a domestic terrorist organisation"I claim you say: "antifa - a domestic terrorist organisation"Stop deluting reality.
(DIR) Post #9jp5eKjKsso6PcFmKW by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:10:35Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele ?Please provide links to where I said specifically what you say. I'd gladly review that and see.
(DIR) Post #9jp5oVZvPDCyx9hflY by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:12:22Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeThis is the post you now deny writing:social.librem.one/@lunduke/102@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp5t2HBmIBdWQ6B4i by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:13:06Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeThis is the post you now deny writing:https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102267109370668485@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp5v1HSS0UD0sAd4S by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:13:27Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeThis is the post you now deny writing:https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102267109370668485@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp6GmDB9pcEeFXlBo by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:17:32Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele When did I deny that?
(DIR) Post #9jp6rC1YfFz585TMZ6 by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:24:01Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeIn this post in particular, you claimed Purism did not document their pro-Nazi changes to the platform (you've since acknowledged that they announced these changes public via a blog post) https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102267031920248220However, you also deliberately lied about Purism's changes to the platform in these posts:https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102266987979621082https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102267040816373992https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102267015403903606@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp73AQMRGhvdsmeEy by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:26:16Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele You said:"Purism deliberately designed Librem Social to be a safe space for Nazis to plan attacks, and there is a paper trail of all of this"I said:"There *definitely* is not a paper trail proving that. Because it's clearly not true."I think... do we possibly have a language issue here? Or do we have a grammar problem that is making this needlessly difficult?
(DIR) Post #9jp791aWCjWLyVKNyC by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:27:17Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lundukeSo you're now denying the blog post that you just acknowledged?You have some serious issues with basic honesty and integrity@rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele
(DIR) Post #9jp7PsaeuXYOzYQkls by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:30:23Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @rune @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele What. Did... did you read the thing I just posted? Your response doesn't seem like a response to what I wrote.You've also attacked me a great deal (based on just... totally made up stuff).I... I really think there must be a basic, simple misunderstanding somewhere in here.
(DIR) Post #9jp7RNNPvvDklPwzXk by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:30:37Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @rune @purism @gabriele giving you the benefit of the doupt: when considering you really mean it like that, how does you/librem plan to counter hate-speech for example?
(DIR) Post #9jp7cVtAcqbeLi75pg by lunduke@social.librem.one
2019-06-14T02:32:39Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @steven @rune @purism @gabriele Hey, benefit of the doubt! I'll take it! Let's assume we're all here because we want to make the world a wonderful, awesome place and move from there! :)Let me respond with a question (I know that's annoying): What would *you* do to counter hate-speech?I ask, because I am curious. There are many ways to deal with problems on social networks like this. And even more disagreements. I'd love to hear your thoughts and ideas on it!
(DIR) Post #9jp8MS4JA5kNozECau by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T02:40:56Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @steven @rune @purism @gabriele eh, I ment benefit of the doubt, not endless benefit of the doubt. I've been asking this question to see if my asumption are wrong, and to give you the possibilty to explain yourself. You giving the question back to me is kind of refusing this. It gives you the possibilty to frame your answer as you believe it would be fitting my perceptions, so that you can harmonize the conflict without actually solving it.
(DIR) Post #9jp8ceEdh6ZQBlmd5U by bigl0af@social.foxfam.club
2019-06-14T02:43:52.631632Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @gabriele @purism @rune @steven @lundukeTusky_1560480227229_1WRHQQEHK0.…
(DIR) Post #9jpKcmhZPkurti9BSq by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-14T00:28:05Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
lol that @purism is very ironic:
(DIR) Post #9jpKcmq4u7ioK67yj2 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-06-14T04:57:10Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 what's really ironic is claiming riseup is "antifa email" when a lot of antifascist groups use protonmail. i wonder if bryan lunduke feels the same about protonmail being "antifa email"? 🤔
(DIR) Post #9jpWVg4ypx3emVTUOm by yolo@ieji.de
2019-06-14T07:11:32Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke It is not just the wording. If this should have been a citation you should have wrote it as a citation."Antfia - an organisation classified by the US government as a terrorist organization"."Antfia - a domesti terrorist organisation..." makes this your claim.Please do not confuse wording and correct citation. I see that the main point of your article was not meant to support fascism, but with these kind of mistakes, it is hard to tell. @paulfree14 @ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @purism
(DIR) Post #9jpw4EuuJeGvWnL9kG by f0x@social.pixie.town
2019-06-13T23:15:07Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
@paulfree14 Thanks for sharing, fuck Purism/Librem tbqhtechbros inc gonna techbro
(DIR) Post #9jpw4ZoacKhELHXuJU by bob@soc.freedombone.net
2019-06-13T23:20:04.246775Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 I havn't watched any lunduke things since that time. Kinda lost interest altogether.
(DIR) Post #9jpw5fb8bMLAZFm7mq by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-06-13T23:22:37Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 I started getting concerned about Lunduke when he started a policy of not wanting to talk about politics while advocating for radical political positions like moving over to free software. I haven't engaged with his content in some time, but I'm really disappointed to learn my concerns were warranted.
(DIR) Post #9jpw5fzF9jcfm13NMO by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-06-13T23:31:07Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@slightlyflightyone I saw that one video that he made as a response to the critique he resieved from making the anti-antifa video. I don't remember it much but I remember it as highly manipulative while refusing or disregard the critique.
(DIR) Post #9jpw6g68EDyKPKkkhk by slightlyflightyone@vulpine.club
2019-06-13T23:35:33Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 Whenever I started feeling uncomfortable was within a year of him starting the Lunduke Show.I had seen his name on articles a number of times and one of his Linux Sucks talks, but I had only started actually following him shortly before the Lunduke Show began when I discovered he was local to me. It really didn't take long to feel super anxious about where he was going to come out in terms of fascism.
(DIR) Post #9jpwe2oylScCRHdlia by Maltimore@masto.themimitoof.fr
2019-06-14T11:49:27Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @purism fuck I wish I could get out of my preorder of the #Librem5.
(DIR) Post #9jpysBHSJFyMdapR5M by ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T12:29:25.368874Z
10 likes, 5 repeats
@ThisIsLeeloo @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer are not groups that go around attacking random gay people. Proud Boys in particular aren't even white nationalist, they're Gavin McInnes's drinking club that got into a fight with antifa because antifa attacked them and got blamed. They also got blamed for Charlottesville because a couple of people from the group showed up there in spite of being explicitly told not to by the organization. Antifa usually doesn't fight Stormer goon squads, they violently disrupt peaceful speaking events of people who are smeared as "nazis" if not just random people they think look like nazis. They're not freedom fighters who resist force with force, they're almost always aggressors who violently attack those they disagree with.
(DIR) Post #9jq0N7USYG3PoVEBJw by cereal@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T12:46:13.025027Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @purism "Servicetoot" from a professional dropout, that has to be sound advice.
(DIR) Post #9jq0cj8crNl2v6SPgG by wowaname@anime.website
2019-06-14T12:49:08.815096Z
5 likes, 0 repeats
@moonman @noyoushutthefuckupdad @paulfree14 @purism this sums up the thread, no need to waste time reading the foreplay
(DIR) Post #9jq1WobvhSAe6ruPaK by kat@toot.site
2019-06-14T12:59:06Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
@lunduke @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism you are an alt-dipshit
(DIR) Post #9jq3lJNIJhi1U86TRo by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T13:24:12.393660Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@ArdanianRight @ThisIsLeeloo @gabriele @lunduke @paulfree14 @purism Proudboys are extremely gay, if you had an orgy they would probably join in.
(DIR) Post #9jq5FQ7Tu5R72tczBY by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T13:40:51.175617Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@ThisIsLeeloo @purism @gabriele @paulfree14 @lunduke Antifa should be exiled to the Isle of Man Eating beasts to think about what they've done.
(DIR) Post #9jq5UDiOJ2pGuuwuWm by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T13:43:31.665641Z
4 likes, 3 repeats
@lunduke @gabriele @purism @rune @steven @paulfree14 Why would anyone want to stop hate?Without hate you can't defend yourself. Hate is the engine of freedom.
(DIR) Post #9jq8BoruFJaUVUJjUW by cereal@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:13:48.871389Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@niquarl @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @steven @lunduke The memo that classifies Antifa as a terrorist org is from 2016 when Obama appointees were still in charge.
(DIR) Post #9jq8MkObDR05ovotwO by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:15:47.240992Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@steven @purism @gabriele @paulfree14 @lunduke the definition of terrorism is "to use violence as a means to further a political cause"Please, by that definition, explain how antifa, a political militia, is not a terrorist organization.Or do you deny that the organization has ever engaged in politically motivated violence?
(DIR) Post #9jq8UTJsaWq3B0IOaO by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:17:09.142460Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos @steven @gabriele @lunduke @paulfree14 @purism brain floss mode: explain how "violence as a means to further a political cause" doesn't describe any army in general?
(DIR) Post #9jq8s8N87e6X9u6Cp6 by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:21:27.271146Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@null I don't have an issue with violence, I have an issue with hipocrisy and individuals that want to deal it but are horrified at the prospect of taking it.
(DIR) Post #9jq90r4NozYs6QUNDE by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:23:02.245665Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lunduke @purism @gabriele @thisisleeloo @paulfree14 "Government agencies called Antifa a terrorist organization. Not me." why should we support companies that openly support a terrorist organization?
(DIR) Post #9jq9BSfItgTLbBodTU by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:24:56.757837Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos the "there should be a law" crowd. I get it.
(DIR) Post #9jq9Depyc1onvfr4zY by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:25:21.090043Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@steven @gabriele @paulfree14 @purism @rune @lunduke lunduke nazi confirmed. lol you guys are a joke come to the real side of fedi.
(DIR) Post #9jq9Q3S8uygDkRcP6e by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:27:35.511339Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kat @purism @paulfree14 @gabriele @lunduke yeah and your a commie fag nothing really matters who people are its how they act.
(DIR) Post #9jq9wxmD2krbhQhEbg by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:33:32.332488Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
@null I'm not an anarchist, I just hate cowards that want to use the state to do whatever they please at the expense of others without consequence, regardless of how far up in the chain they are. Using a gang to attack severely outnumbered opponents also counts.The battlefield is territory of those willing to gamble their lives on their skill, not of "moooom he hit me!" faggots.
(DIR) Post #9jqA0cEN5lfy2Dbusa by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:34:11.400136Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos "Using a gang to attack severely outnumbered opponents also counts."What do you think police do?
(DIR) Post #9jqAKFdcnhzpkxmlhg by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:37:44.853099Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@null I'm not going to get in a police argument, specially considering it is likely police where you live and police where I live act in radically different ways.
(DIR) Post #9jqAa5tAodvA9Yc3H6 by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:40:35.924621Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos sure. it's also just a huge can of worms. my point in the thread was just that the definition "violence as a means to further a political cause" is so broad and useless that it invariably includes the speaker.if we do debate police, i promise to do so without gross exaggeration or simplification. just so that's on the table if desired.
(DIR) Post #9jqAgZmgZvaobqfXyS by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:41:46.969359Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@null but, if you want my opinion on when police should or shouldn't intervene, I consider they absolutely shouldn't get involved in personal issues like fights between two private parties, but criminals attacking without provocation are fair game for whoever wants to go after them, cop or not, as they would never offer a victim the benefit of a fair fight, so they shouldn't expect to get it either.
(DIR) Post #9jqAkXjK9r4ZOezKt6 by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:42:29.558928Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos almost sounds like an honor code of sorts.
(DIR) Post #9jqAnNH3UP2Jpx7FGC by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:43:00.668624Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@null that's fair enough, I just wanted to put the hypocrital asshole in a position he couldn't thought-gymnastic his way out of
(DIR) Post #9jqAqzHUdWU2aB2l2e by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:43:39.831450Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@null to me, honor is the building block of coexistence.
(DIR) Post #9jqB3Jaiwvp133uu5Q by null@stereophonic.space
2019-06-14T14:45:52.807830Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos if it's deferred violence, i can respect it.if it's glorified docility and impotence...
(DIR) Post #9jqBMwAvifJEDUCzLM by Shitlord@dobbs.town
2019-06-14T14:49:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@moonman @purism @paulfree14 dudism
(DIR) Post #9jqBS2Og0y4Cxd4Qds by nerthos@shitposter.club
2019-06-14T14:50:21.614477Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@null fully agree with this.
(DIR) Post #9jqEMdqUAWNBELCF1M by zazalamelbeatingnomore@pl.kys.moe
2019-06-14T15:22:41.549486Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@nerthos @null never let weak minded poeple determine what you do its only detrimental.
(DIR) Post #9jqINSBRPezjARdnLk by zazalamelbeatingnomore@pl.kys.moe
2019-06-14T15:19:10.475267Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@1iceloops123 @steven @gabriele @lunduke @paulfree14 @purism @rune yes it will never be enough they will always find things to complain about and mostly the really really stupid things. they are a funny joke.
(DIR) Post #9jqSHegd0sPXkV6On2 by ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-14T17:58:58.346713Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@lunduke @gabriele @purism @rune @steven @paulfree14 "What would *you* do to counter hate-speech?"Relentlessly mock and bully the SJWs, nonwhites, feminists and trannies that are spewing all the Anti-Straight White Male bullshit....oh wait, that's not the "hate speech" you had in mind, is it?
(DIR) Post #9jr1ct0ATvIacj6Jmq by Reinderdijkhuis@mastodon.social
2019-06-14T07:52:07Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@paulfree14 @purism He has since doubled down on denying that he claimed antifa was a domestic terrorist organisation, in a conversation with one of my follows on here.
(DIR) Post #9jr1ctCZjnDvFCuE7s by bob@soc.freedombone.net
2019-06-14T08:10:53.756057Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@Reinderdijkhuis @paulfree14 Someone could make a transcript of the video, but I don't think it would be worth it. Instead I think we should focus attention on the good aspects of Free Software and the people doing good work, and not the marketers.
(DIR) Post #9jrnl9J2XePxJ6vxyK by steven@todon.nl
2019-06-14T01:19:25Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@adminStopped reading after you seemed to indicate that being autistic is actually a bad thing, imagine being so out of touch with reality that you could think that @lunduke @paulfree14
(DIR) Post #9kDWxvUz22OfRuLtlA by abuse@social.librem.one
2019-06-25T18:11:32Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
https://librem.one/conduct/@1iceloops123 Your post violates our code of conduct (see link). We do not tolerate harassment. This is your only warning. Repeat offenses will escalate to silence or suspension, with an audited appeals process.
(DIR) Post #9kDWxvfcOUu5ytKOKu by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-25T21:09:47.145837Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@abuse what posts.
(DIR) Post #9kDXcTEx09LZgCBang by orekix@aria.company
2019-06-25T21:17:06.347579Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@abuse @1iceloops123 lol
(DIR) Post #9kDXr3RdBsdC1J4U4W by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-25T21:19:45.164955Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@orekix like what did I do they should just block whole fedi because librem and purism isn't great for fedi and foss
(DIR) Post #9kEjwJAbXpUaqbL4BU by kat@toot.site
2019-06-26T10:38:41Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@1iceloops123 @abuse i guess the one where you called me a "commie fag"
(DIR) Post #9kEjwJLEuI01NaJYlE by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-26T11:09:50.641918Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kat @abuse i guess i ment to make it as a joke
(DIR) Post #9kEzuIgPyyGg1bHeoS by kat@toot.site
2019-06-26T14:07:18Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@1iceloops123 I can tell that from the toddler's understanding of the word "joke" and what constitutes comedy
(DIR) Post #9kF0CWf4kYcWafLXbU by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2019-06-26T14:12:04.710595Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kat as for purisms coc thing is kinda stupid.
(DIR) Post #9kgaRmPvbKbvhoYMLY by abuse@social.librem.one
2019-06-25T18:08:57Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
https://librem.one/conduct/@kat Your post violates our code of conduct (see link). We do not tolerate harassment. This is your only warning. Repeat offenses will escalate to silence or suspension, with an audited appeals process.
(DIR) Post #9kgaRmmGGITWp50C9o by dixiede@social.librem.one
2019-07-09T21:35:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@abuse wait I thought @purismwas in favor of free speech? now people get suspended for calling someone a commie fag? that can't be real?@lunduke @purism @Purism
(DIR) Post #9l8nNgII6TpeOms3bk by bane@accela.online
2019-07-23T12:12:15.872467Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@gabrieleLmao don't even bother Paul is a clown. :elfie: @paulfree14 @lunduke @purism