Post 9jWaUT2AYtBLqUbEeW by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #9jVqriqnKJATfWQinY by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:25:27Z
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ThreadEurope is in the Second Dark Ages."A 17-year-old Dutch girl has been euthanised at her home after she said the trauma of being raped as a young girl made her feel she couldn’t keep living."WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/teens/noa-pothoven-of-arnhem-in-the-netherlands-is-legally-euthanised/news-story/10b49ca69733eaa11b66e1b1b8e215a1
(DIR) Post #9jVqzs4Ovt78ZxgDcO by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:26:55Z
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Check THIS out:"Children as young as 12 can opt for euthanasia in the Netherlands but only after a doctor determines that the patient’s pain is unbearable."This is criminal.But Europe has a long history of allowing doctors to carry out crimes.
(DIR) Post #9jVrT63g0HC2MRHE3c by benkostka@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:32:12Z
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@ThomasWic Nuts!
(DIR) Post #9jVrTNaYpGbAjLnEAq by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:32:15Z
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@ThomasWic Heartbreakingly criminal. Human life has become a tradeable commodity, both in and out of the womb. My God.
(DIR) Post #9jVrWkOOUy3CK8hxj6 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:32:52Z
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In 2013, Belgian psychiatrist Walter Vandereycken was exposed as having had sex with all his female patients for decades.He was the world's leading expert on anorexia.Despite his physical appearance as a cartoon molester, the European press did eerily romantic photo shoots of him.He was vigorously defended.
(DIR) Post #9jVs3RMMHbpWqoLSTI by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:38:46Z
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The woman who exposed him was euthanized "for unbearable pain" before she could testify against Vandereycken.After Vandereycken was fired from his position at the Catholic University of Leuven in 2014, the European media dropped the story.His books are still being sold.https://nyupress.org/9780814787540/treating-eating-disorders/
(DIR) Post #9jVsEtpelN8SLHVsi8 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:40:51Z
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Euthanizing teenagers or children for depression is the mindset of my Australian stalker.He wants me dead because HE is terrified of HIS OWN mental illness.Most mental-health professionals enter the field to find out what's wrong with themselves.That's the fatal flaw of the system.Human frailty.
(DIR) Post #9jVsGy8Bkc0yFpAUMq by Darkan@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:41:13Z
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@ThomasWic She did wrote a book last year, In the link a video from her and her parents. Not sure if you are able to understand Dutch https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/noa-is-17-jaar-geworden-ik-word-losgelaten-omdat-mijn-lijden-ondraaglijk-is~a7a2cc47/
(DIR) Post #9jVsNmica1u0t1SXk8 by LibbyAnnSpeaks@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:42:27Z
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@ThomasWic Yes....we are all tire up in our own way. I find it charming.
(DIR) Post #9jVsSBGNGaWGATLL7I by LibbyAnnSpeaks@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:43:14Z
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@ThomasWic Yes....we are all Tore Up in our own way. I find it charming.
(DIR) Post #9jVsaC9TqVJVF0wLs8 by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:44:42Z
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When I entered talk therapy, I told the psychiatrist that he needed to go after me as hard as he could.After an hour of conversation, he agreed.I saw him an hour a week for 18 months, and every session was productive.My life was already hell, so I wasn't afraid of pain or knowledge.But I was 34 years old, not 17.Anyone who euthanizes a 17-year-old for depression is morally a murderer.
(DIR) Post #9jVsaKb4Ro8XQtuUzI by JM@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:44:43Z
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@ThomasWic Truth, my Psychology professor (first class), said " you are here to find out what is wrong with you, or everyone else."
(DIR) Post #9jVsryVvI43S9jupqi by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:47:54Z
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Imagine the damage being done to the Dutch and Belgians.Their mental-health fields are now packed with rapists and murderers.But it's all legal.I hated living in the Netherlands. Everyone was miserable and conformist.A perfect place for predators posing as politicians and mental-health professionals.END
(DIR) Post #9jVt9OneoRxQbUWFQu by Aristocratic_Cthulhu@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:51:03Z
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@ThomasWic This shit is utterly disgusting, how do these people manage to LIVE with themselves? Makes me sick to my stomach.
(DIR) Post #9jVtBdy5O9tIE5T2UC by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:51:27Z
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@ThomasWic I could not agree more. I had the same approach when I entered therapy. "I want this fixed, do not go easy on me. Truth only." Its the only way I got here, from there.As a senior in high school, I was trying to find a way to kill myself ... a way that wouldn't leave my parents with a mess to clean up. It was to be, sincerely, my gift to them.Thank God I'm not a teenager today. It would be heartbreakingly easy to deliver that "gift." 😭💔🙏🏻
(DIR) Post #9jVtiFsfxv054qUGmG by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T19:57:20Z
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@ThomasWic I could not agree more. I had the same approach when I entered therapy. "I want this fixed, do not go easy on me. Truth only." It's the only way I got here, from there. Brutal honesty.As a senior in high school, I was trying to find a way to kill myself ... a way that wouldn't leave my parents with a mess to clean up. It was to be, sincerely, my gift to them.Thank God I'm not a teenager today. It would be heartbreakingly easy to deliver that "gift." 😭💔🙏🏻
(DIR) Post #9jVuGSvrwkodOxIGiu by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:03:32Z
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@ThomasWic I absolutely and sadly have to agree with you on this statement. EVERY single person I know who is a psychologist is a complete train wreck. Additionally most folks I know who entered therapy long term were never helped by the process. It certainly is a sad state of affairs.
(DIR) Post #9jVuIK7XgBU4eSdiNs by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:03:53Z
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@ThomasWic I once asked my therapist if all patients were determined, as I was, to get better. She said, "No. Most people are looking for endorsement of their pathology.
(DIR) Post #9jVuTMuReR1SUCmQZU by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:05:52Z
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@ThomasWic A person's brain is not fully developed at age 17, let alone age 12. This is absolutely horrendous.
(DIR) Post #9jVukmY7ZksmvidqiW by DuaneCates@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:09:01Z
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@ThomasWic I am going to answer that question, Thomas.As I sit here responding to the Story I just read it's clear="WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?"They are RIGHT THERE, failing her a second, final time.This is the way Societies that have failed in uplifting or bolstering THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE can quietly sweep their failures out of sight.This was an ultimate act of Self Harm because her "people" would not vilify or hold her abusers accountable.
(DIR) Post #9jVuqrA3LGdYyFHS2i by seeker@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:10:07Z
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@ThomasWic Thomas, you have probably experienced more than hell, but you celebrate life. I know many traumatised people (including myself) who struggle, but live. But I also want to add, that - for obvious and terrible reasons - german professional organization of doctors decided in 2011, that german doctors are not allowed to assist suicide. Also organizations like the swiss Dignitas, who help in suicide, are illegal here (but there is a case about this before german high court).
(DIR) Post #9jVv34rUEIAywAQKLA by Darngood@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:12:18Z
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@ThomasWic May God open these people's eyes. This is very scary folks. God have mercy.
(DIR) Post #9jVv8mCcW5pMnw1gn2 by DuaneCates@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:13:21Z
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@ThomasWic Infliction, pure & simple.& now they've set up a SYSTEM whereby they can kill at will.Legally.If there is a Creator of this Universe I would NOT want to be Vandereycken or any of those complicit in ending this Girl's Story.
(DIR) Post #9jVviNnSjZetXJEm7k by Darngood@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:19:47Z
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@ThomasWic The whole bunch of them are now out right murderers. This country must have a high population of demon possed people.
(DIR) Post #9jVvuRfWAFkh1HGzaa by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:21:58Z
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@DuaneCates Amen.
(DIR) Post #9jVw4eoc8k96gnOh9M by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:23:48Z
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@ThomasWic I once asked my therapist if all patients were determined, as I was, to get better. She said, "No. Most people are looking for endorsement of their pathology."
(DIR) Post #9jVwETVt121SX4Jq0e by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:25:35Z
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@seeker Doctors should never be allowed to help the depressed commit suicide.I was depressed for the first four decades of my life...but I always knew that things could change.I found that Europeans don't value individual human lives.That's why they caused so many wars. Even the pacifists don't value individual human lives.
(DIR) Post #9jVwqQmDdeCN373be4 by MrsHarryBosch@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:32:27Z
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@ThomasWic WHERE is euthanasia legal in the US, as stated in this article?
(DIR) Post #9jVx8qvx7sXbO0OVMm by seeker@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:35:47Z
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@ThomasWic There is a lot of truth in what you just answered, will meditate on it.
(DIR) Post #9jVxy2Xvi7GCAdZ8aG by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:45:02Z
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@ThomasWic @seeker I read an article where a British woman in the UK was diagnosed with treatable breast cancer at the age of 70. She said her friends told her, "Why get treatment? Haven't you lived long enough?" Luckily she didn't listen to them.
(DIR) Post #9jVydbifqG3x8DPbbk by mariel@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:52:32Z
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@ThomasWicThat story is horrifying. That innocent girl was used by some evil POS and then her culture agreed there was no more use for her after that?!
(DIR) Post #9jVz4J6JArL9CmCLia by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:27:01Z
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@Cdubois @ThomasWic I asked that question to my therapist and got the same answer. " Most people are looking for endorsement of their pathology."
(DIR) Post #9jVz4JE6hrZvaxqZsG by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:33:28Z
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@skhillx3 Were you as surprised as I was? That was years ago; since then, my observation has confirmed her statement. Whether it's laziness or fear, those folks are missing a pretty incredible boat: living their lives authentically. @ThomasWic
(DIR) Post #9jVz4JMyAufS2Rzegi by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:37:01Z
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@Cdubois @ThomasWic I was surprised because I wanted to get better and put the demons in hell. I had a hard time imagining that anyone wanted to stay that sick. Living authentically is the best but it's scary too especially in the beginning.
(DIR) Post #9jVzo0yUtl0OJEL808 by SusanEBB@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T21:05:37Z
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@ThomasWic We like to think something so horrifying can't develop here, but consider New York and their new abortion law. They gave themselves a standing ovation after passing it.
(DIR) Post #9jW3SrXBCdKYlUjPdI by HunDriverWidow@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T21:46:37Z
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@ThomasWic I haven't read anything this disgusting in a while. I have no words that I can print here regarding what I think of this outrage.
(DIR) Post #9jWAVvZbLEQPq8GyYK by leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com
2019-06-04T23:05:38.113181Z
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@ThomasWicIf you oppose their eugenics, you're a Nazi.
(DIR) Post #9jWBTEChiTv0huq6rI by HockeyMom@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T23:16:19Z
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@ThomasWic I was horrified when I read this. Of course, we knew this is where the euthanasia movement was inevitably headed. Leftism is a Satanic death-cult.
(DIR) Post #9jWBeIDT8g8iKwTPI8 by Lisa22@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T23:18:20Z
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@HockeyMom @ThomasWic Euthanasia in the UK is rampant in regards to the elderly - there are major scandals of hospitals euthanizing "difficult" patients for years and years.
(DIR) Post #9jWCyWOkDkIk4CxOe8 by Veni@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T23:33:11Z
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@ThomasWic Jante is an absolute shithole mindset..when you first mentioned it I thought it was a joke.. it actually was meant as a joke but ppl went "yeah lets do this cruel shit to each other"... oh Europe, what are we going to do with you?
(DIR) Post #9jWGEOOU30sfjp5utc by JennyR@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T00:09:40Z
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@ThomasWic Reminds me of a conversation my mom (nurse) had with a doctor.Doctor: "you know, better than half these shrinks are crazy themselves"Mom: "yep, kinda seems that they diagnose their patients with problems they've got".Mom hated the psyche portion of her practicum,
(DIR) Post #9jWGgUQVDDYsYXR7tQ by JennyR@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T00:14:45Z
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@ThomasWic I'm thinking the Dark Ages were more civilized.
(DIR) Post #9jWGm5l3qFBhmmiwc4 by JennyR@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T00:15:45Z
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@ThomasWic That's some sick as f crap right there.Miserable bastiges; they're evil.
(DIR) Post #9jWJiOrFBfB7j7Xz04 by MegasAlexandros@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T00:48:42Z
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@ThomasWic You have said “By the time you are 50... you get the face you deserve” Case in point.
(DIR) Post #9jWaUSGfPVBVTANIbw by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:41:25Z
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@skhillx3 It is scary in the beginning. But I knew that there was only one way out of the hell I was in ... and that was through it. So the journey back to my self began. @ThomasWic
(DIR) Post #9jWaUSXKPYVoIqAba4 by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T20:45:08Z
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@Cdubois @ThomasWic I knew it too...had to go thru it to release it. It was hard but not nearly as difficult as living tormented everyday. Yes, it is a journey back to self, and lo and behold I found out that I like myself.
(DIR) Post #9jWaUSgXrHsulQTxwm by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T21:13:44Z
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@skhillx3 @Cdubois @ThomasWic Mine thought most patients shouldn't even try therapy until they were in their 40s. She thought younger patients weren't ready to do the introspective work necessary. She let me go when I was ready. I guess I got fired for getting healthier. Not a bad thing at all although I was a bit sad. Therapy is painful. I never liked Catholic confession either.
(DIR) Post #9jWaUStJ5q5pP0S9q4 by Cdubois@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-04T21:18:32Z
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@Joycevor If I'd waited till my forties, I might not have made it. I started therapy in my twenties. It pulled me back from the edge, and changed my life. I discovered that I'm exactly who I thought I was when I was five. That little girl knew.I guess the timing is uniquely specific to the individual.@skhillx3 @ThomasWic
(DIR) Post #9jWaUT2AYtBLqUbEeW by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T02:30:14Z
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@Cdubois @Joycevor @ThomasWic I believe the teacher appears when the student is ready. I had to come to the end of myself and almost die before I was ready to tell the family secrets. And then almost all the family turned against me...oh well God gave me a new family of friends. 💗 ✝️ ❣️
(DIR) Post #9jWaUTBjzIq2KB4sZU by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:47:32Z
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@skhillx3 It is amazing what happens when you turn your focus away and toward better adventures. I was fortunate because my husband had already made a similar journey. We are both fortunate. Now we make a habit of collecting nice people. This week we're groaning though. On the biz side I think something's off in the planetary sphere. We've had a few cray cray clients and acquaintances. A good steak dinner is the remedy I hope.
(DIR) Post #9jWaUTKxR2D8mlOEwC by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:50:19Z
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@Joycevor For sure a nice tender steak should do the trick. 💗
(DIR) Post #9jWaUTTSvP15D9N2CO by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:51:40Z
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@skhillx3 I should tag Saul @Debradelai it was not grass fed. It was a very nice strip steak.
(DIR) Post #9jWaUTbcR5XRcRBXuK by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:56:40Z
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@Joycevor @skhillx3 What I had for dinner today. And yesterday.Few things beat that.Porterhouse and ribeye come to mind...
(DIR) Post #9jWacMaoOURqBXZJ2W by skhillx3@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:58:06Z
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@Debradelai @Joycevor I'll take the ribeye...😜
(DIR) Post #9jWalCBETdbCUtocFc by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T03:59:42Z
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@Lisa22 @HockeyMom @ThomasWic You just reminded me with this post. I had a very difficult great grandmother who in her declining years suffered from dementia. In the 60s or 70s the family did attempt an exorcism with a local priest or bishop. I view this skeptically now, but honestly she was a piece of work according to my sister's family history digging, and my sister didn't remember her, I did.
(DIR) Post #9jWbG5YV9p4UvcQjtA by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T04:05:17Z
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@Debradelai @skhillx3 He he. You are a champ Saul. In my neck of Floriduh we are finally blessed with some butcher sources. Until Lucky's Supermarket arrived (Colorado) we were stuck with Whole Paycheck or a lovely but extortive local butcher. IMHO Costco is ok but meh. We paired it of course with baked potatoes and BUTTER and a nice fresh cucumber tomato and red onion salad. Mistero Cabernet Sauvignon. I think it's Chilean.
(DIR) Post #9jWbOyBruTMUgz4wbo by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T04:06:53Z
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@Joycevor @skhillx3 Do you have a Jethro or Restaurant Depot in your neck of Floriduh?
(DIR) Post #9jWbrWM0U5AskzR29I by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T04:12:03Z
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@Debradelai @skhillx3 Sadly no.I will remember these names. I'm in Naples, and the area is exploding. I do miss Wegmann's and I think they're in VA now, but maybe not close to you.
(DIR) Post #9jWcP54wOp180gSHxo by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T04:18:06Z
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@Joycevor @skhillx3 I know the area well.There is one about 45 min -1 hr from you. Well worth the trip, but you need to do some homework first.
(DIR) Post #9jWclcaSUrIkIywgXg by Joycevor@social.quodverum.com
2019-06-05T04:22:11Z
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@Debradelai @skhillx3 Thank you for the tip. I think it's hilarious that one of the pleasures of aging is discovering new supermarkets. It's also amusing that folks here think an hour trip (or even 30 mins) is a great distance.