Post 9j79UWAWLhsHgRw6CW by Ela@social.quodverum.com
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 (DIR) Post #9j6vo88i04QRakXvfM by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T18:53:03Z
       
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       ThreadOf course I could be wrong, but I think the fighting in Libya is kabuki.First a video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxyMXBGG1e0
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6vzSNX5lOpY0sgEa by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T18:55:05Z
       
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       The background is that Obama toppled Gaddafi and left two governments: one in Tripoli and one in Tobruk.The armed forces of the Tobruk government are advancing on Tripoli, but the commander--an American citizen named Khalifa Haftar--has indicated that he's willing to negotiate.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6wDMvMAUdmgXKrdA by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T18:57:36Z
       
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       Haftar recently spoke with trump by telephone.My guess is that he's positioning himself for talks, the way we've positioned ourselves in the Middle East by first sending in carrier strike groups.Forget the stenographers of the press. They're useless.Let's look at the video.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6wgpTX5uxJdJMwPg by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:02:56Z
       
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       We're told that up to eleven countries are pouring modern arms into Libya.Well, THREE of these men have homemade machine guns taken off tanks.They're almost useless except as noisemakers.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6x28lyXfchZ39p3o by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:06:47Z
       
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       Is this man really injured?I don't know. It looks to m that they FIRST sliced his trouser leg open and THEN applied stage blood.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6xH07R011x4JHSsK by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:09:28Z
       
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       This guy fired a heavy machine gun, but then he gave orders.Usually commanders DIRECT fire instead of using the weapons themselves.Unless he's in charge of the whole charade and is making sure that it's dramatic enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6xTgF4DEABBatetc by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:11:45Z
       
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       The man on the right is an actor with no training whatsoever.He has no ammunition pouches, and he fired his rifle right next to the head of the kneeling man.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6xXUCkuOXd0ld93g by holymolyrocky@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:12:26Z
       
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       @ThomasWic Thanks Thomas.  The real analysis and news is on SQV.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6xlXy1iUt2jbRhAG by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:14:58Z
       
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       The man in the black T-shirt on the right is watching carefully.He's trying to keep the machine gunner in the center from killing everybody around him."Hey! Hey! Hey! Stop shooting, you moron!"
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6y2vEEU6mhnkJLRw by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:18:08Z
       
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       Libya is a mess.But I don't think things are playing out the way they seem.The FEAR of another civil war is real.But I think regional actors are using that fear to make people sit down and talk.In the past, the talkers were safe, far from the fighting.NOW, the talkers have the enemy at the gates. I think that was the only way to make them take the talks seriously.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6yEn44fBydxNDcnY by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:20:15Z
       
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       As always, I could be wrong.But I just don't think that the regional powers are allowing Libya to simply spiral out of control.I think--as in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen--the press is fed a narrative, but the reality behind the scenes is quite different.Call it the Trumpification of geopolitics and war.END
       
 (DIR) Post #9j6zfOOYanCpDa32qO by JM@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T19:36:17Z
       
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       @ThomasWic Thank you, Thomas great thread. Not sure if I am actually learning from you, when I viewed the video — it looked fake. 😊
       
 (DIR) Post #9j71yruhGfAUB6UoNM by ilumanous@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T20:02:13Z
       
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       @ThomasWic I am not as learned as you when it comes to such things, but as a grandma I can usually spot someone doing something that is placing themself in unnecessary danger.Would a person hang on a gun like this while they are actually trying to stay alive through the whole ordeal?All he needs is for his right foot to slip and he would land hard on that truck corner. Ouch!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #9j72VWbDXBo1d5xLea by janis@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T20:08:07Z
       
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       @ThomasWic  Given the evidence you've shown in the past for the care that Trump and the GCC show for civilians-- and for any combatants who will stand down when given the chance-- you are right to think that they wouldn't let Libya continue to be the disaster it's been.  They absolutely would work to save that country and get rid of the bad actors.  Every country they rescue is one less place that the thugs can control. One more country with freedom on its horizon. Hopefully.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j73iBWfIPdRzSQZiy by chart_map@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T20:21:35Z
       
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       @ThomasWic That would make sense. Things were moving ahead rapidly, Haftar got to Tripoli, and then the whole thing seemed to stall, but not with the bloodbath fighting in Tripoli that was expected.It would also bring Trump's call to Haftar into a better context.
       
 (DIR) Post #9j74PznwElFgNXOiiu by hardbass2k8@shitposter.club
       2019-05-23T20:29:32.553384Z
       
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       @ThomasWic the lmg guy without ammo is probably also not that legit
       
 (DIR) Post #9j79UWAWLhsHgRw6CW by Ela@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T21:26:21Z
       
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       @ThomasWic It appears to be fake these people could make lots of money in Hollywood staging and make-up props!
       
 (DIR) Post #9j7BZNVKBsRKAS71HM by rarity@social.quodverum.com
       2019-05-23T21:49:39Z
       
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       @ThomasWic Agreed, Thomas.This does not look like a real injury.