Post 9iUQFDHxj77ML4WwMa by paullyj57@social.quodverum.com
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(DIR) Post #9iTUDo9dtXakkuGRJw by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:10:13Z
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(1) A couple of incidents today with @capnjoe and a couple of nincompoops that were "offended" by my rejection of his anti_Muslim bigotry reminded me of a thread I wrote in Twitter in June of 2017.Two years later, there are those who can't bring themselves to understand a very basic fact.It is perhaps in the nature of the social media beast.
(DIR) Post #9iTUMNH7CY51zqqPBo by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:11:44Z
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(2) Like most tools of modernity, twitter is proving to be a double edged sword.On the one hand, it's an incredible source of informationand an endless source of blather.Mostly inoquous blather.But not all.Folks we rarely heard from before now have a megaphone and anonymity.A combination that allows them to promote their garbage unimpeded.I'm glad it is so.Far be it from me the notion of quelling that cacophony.But that does not mean I want to read their crap.
(DIR) Post #9iTUZ6UWuicXhwBl8i by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:14:03Z
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(3) That’s where blocking comes in so handy.Be it "Dan" or its disciple "Trotsky", characters created by @ThomasWic and yours truly while in the Twatter swamp, recalcitrant morons can be (and are) muted.Lately, though I seem to run often into a particular kind of dangerous barbarians. They probably think of themselves as godly warriors and in their ignorance maybe even forces for good.But fanaticism is NEVER good.And its results are NEVER desirable.
(DIR) Post #9iTUaX2xfQS0MCyV1c by Lonestar@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:14:19Z
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@Debradelai ... watching that kerfuffle unfold reminded me of the virtual equivalent of suicide by cop.
(DIR) Post #9iTUl6ayLxqVVMvPTU by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:16:13Z
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(4) Islamic terrorism is the most serious threat confronting the world today, Al Gore be damned.There is no question in my mind about that.A threat that affects all peoples of all religions. Bar none.More Muslims have fallen to it, exponentially, than all others COMBINED.Those Muslims are victimized twice:a. By the Islamic terrorists themselves.b. By Westerners targeting them because barbarians use their faith for cover.
(DIR) Post #9iTUtJgvXw32REcqvI by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:17:42Z
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(5) This is how it works:At the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, the former provinces became protectorates & eventually countries.Many of these countries fell into Socialist dictatorships: The Ba’ath parties in Iraq and Syria, the National Socialists in Egypt, etc.As Socialists do, they endeavored to use the religious nature of their societies by encouraging a worship of the state and their leaders.Nasser, Assad x 2, Sadat, Saddam, Qaddafi, are all good examples of this.
(DIR) Post #9iTV4l1KHIdmNoceeW by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:19:46Z
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(6) Organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood attempted to rally the faithful against the Socialists in the name of Islam. It did not work.When the MB demanded, as a condiction for peace, a law imposing Hijab on the women of Egypt in the 50s, they were laughed out of the room.The Muslim masses did not respond. They frankly did not give a crap.Most were too busy ecking a living to care about the zealots.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZIqdrFeFBk
(DIR) Post #9iTVIJXzDfsZEMMbBI by masterblaster@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:22:13Z
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@Debradelai True, totally true. Simply look at Obama's gift to the MB, the Arab Spring.
(DIR) Post #9iTVNclrApSaIeNoye by DeplorableAynNY@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:23:11Z
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Great video here. #6.Expand.
(DIR) Post #9iTVOn9m2rNAng7wFk by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:23:23Z
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(7) In the 1970s, this intensified with the Iranian Revolution and Camp David Accords.The Fedayyeen, now al-Jihad (al-Qa'ida/ISIS), targeted Western powers in an effort to present their masses with a common enemy.In collusion with the Iranians and their own “Izbillat” (and, later, Hamas), Al-Jihad and the Palestinians launched their attacks.
(DIR) Post #9iTVcEH0XN74fKuyg4 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:25:50Z
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(8) A storm of airline hijackings, hostage taking and bomb attacks rained on the world, from Buenos Aires to Paris, from Istanbul to Kuwait...And the Muslim masses didn't give a crap.They just went about their business, untouched by the emotional calls to JihadWhen the US intervened in Iraq, a sea change begun to take shape.Within a few years, the tribes of Anbar flocked to the US banner and with them, Sunnis around the ME.We called that "the Anbar awakening".
(DIR) Post #9iTVoXq9c7aWpIEJtI by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:28:03Z
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(9) The Anbar awakening helped defeat al-Qa'ida in Iraq and opened the door to a solution.By 2009, Muslim masses were mobilizing not against the West or Israel, but against their dictators & Islamists, demanding democracy.And Obama betrayed them all.From Tunisia to Teheran, Algiers, Tripoli and Damascus, the US failed to support the people's revolt.Instead, Obama supported the MB in Egypt, allowed al-Qa’ida to take control of Yemen, Lybia, Iraq and Syria and isolated Egypt after Morsi.
(DIR) Post #9iTW38QwME9eNAOSjg by RonOgletree@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:30:41Z
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@Debradelai TeheranWe know how it is supposed to be spelled.😉
(DIR) Post #9iTW3D9Oos5v0DE1aa by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:30:42Z
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(10) Iran's Green Movement got a no-go & was allowed to wither.Saudis were left to fend for themselves against Iran and al-Qa’ida threats.Israel was stabbed in the back with promises to Hamas of a "contiguous Palestinian state" and a return to pre-1967 borders.And al-Qa’ida changed its tune once more.Having failed to mobilize the Muslims against the West, the new strategy after 2009 was to mobilize the West against their own Muslim communities to provoke a backlash in their defense.
(DIR) Post #9iTWGjYBfXqbFlGeZM by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:33:09Z
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(11) Zealots in the West are ready dupes.In response to a premeditated series of attacks, their response is to go after Islam and NOT against Islamic terrorists.To criminalize the law abiding backlava baker in Deerborn, lumping him with the terrorists.Citing obscure passages in the Qu'ran that are IDENTICAL to those in Chronicles, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Leviticus...In fact, mostly COPIED from thereSo far, Muslim masses aren't taking the bait.
(DIR) Post #9iTWKJOypYOJJUfR2W by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:33:48Z
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@RonOgletree Tehran is too boring.
(DIR) Post #9iTWR1MuHDudPWteYy by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:35:00Z
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(12) Indeed, as the Riyadh Summit showed, Muslims are ready and want to engage with the West against a common enemy that has caused infinite more pain in THEIR communities than ours.But decades of mistrust cannot be easily undone, and if the religious zealots of the West manage to incite violence against Muslims, those leaders may find themselves between the proverbial rock and hard place trying to explain their association with the US.
(DIR) Post #9iTWiwJnn8Z8xczMTA by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:38:14Z
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(13) The enemy IS NOT Islam, nor Muslims.The enemy is Islamic National Socialism and their terrorist minions.Increasingly, the fanatical religious dupes in the West are becoming the staunchest allies to Islamic terror.And sounding just the same.And here we can see their efforts before us, every day, as they attempt to drag us into a religious war.The same religious war Muslim peoples have consistently rejected, at great cost, for over 50 years.How's that for Insanity?
(DIR) Post #9iTXFQ1KtYTiLZq3Ie by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T18:44:07Z
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(14) Now you know why I blocked Joe, who I otherwise enjoyed, and why this brand of bigotry will not be tolerated at QuodVerum.Enabling terrorism is not acceptable, whether the moron doing it is aware of it or not.For the upteenth time, we have zero tolerance for bigotry of any kind.One of the 24 accounts I deleted was an old friend of mine from Spain.If you want to "rail against the Muzzies" save us all some time and go back to 8chan or wherever the nutcases may gather this week.FINIS
(DIR) Post #9iTYfioXk8OW7Mxdyq by Seedsaver@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:00:03Z
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@Debradelai Excellent. Thank you. I had a slight run-in at a convenience store this past week. Been going for years for my paper and Dr Pepper. When I complained about the headlines being misleading and that so many were upset because our nation was returning to the rule of law. He became quite agitated and said "There IS no law." Twice.
(DIR) Post #9iTZw6vJyNXjTlVgHY by Seedsaver@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:00:28Z
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@Debradelai Since he had said bad things about our country in the past, and said he could give me books on all the "bad, horrible things America has done." I said that's the past, this is now. And by the way, where are you from?"Palestine. The place you people call Is-rae-el."I said that explains a lot. I haven't been back. Sad to feel that hatred and contempt for both countries, yet he lives HERE.
(DIR) Post #9iTbdNnXD4XmDj47ou by Dawnz@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:33:16Z
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@Debradelai Thank you for that post. It explains a lot.These are things I think a lot of people dont understand.Some are just bigots, some wont do any research on their own,for some, its all new to them and for some they just prefer to ignore it. I appreciate the time you take to explain it all and put things into perspective. ☺️
(DIR) Post #9iTcQUAUJXb0APDRD6 by toughlove@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:42:08Z
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@Debradelai Because everyone who disagrees with you is a "nutcase", Islam doesn't mean "submission", Islamic societies didn't keep Christian slaves in the thousands, Muhammad wasn't an imperialist who attacked and conquered Christian lands during his lifetime, and the 1400-year war by Islam against Christendom never happened.
(DIR) Post #9iTdPVtIWWERAsH8lc by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:53:10Z
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@toughlove And Christians never refer to themselves as "servants of God," right?Get out of here, bigot.
(DIR) Post #9iTdbY0WTpGtDJORbE by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T19:55:21Z
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@toughlove It's 25, now.
(DIR) Post #9iTi5Z1ZfB2Is7SApk by Sound_Bites@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T20:45:35Z
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@Debradelai A great evil is when amoral zealots hijack a religion for cover, rationale, recruits. . .The danger grows when normal people allow it to stay in their community out of fear for self and loved ones.Just like the 'good' Baptists tolerating the KKK for too long.May God help peaceful people stand up to face the evil being exposed in the world today, knowing the next bullet may have their name on it.I do worry about the hateful imams who use their mosques for bad purposes.
(DIR) Post #9iTlVgDfploCZxG20e by IndiaMaria@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T21:23:55Z
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@Debradelai President Trump made his first foreign visit to Saudi Arabia. He danced with the joyous Saudis who were singing "Allah has brought him to us, Allah has brought him to us"....and FIFTY TWO Muslim nations signed an alliance to end terrorism WHILE HE WAS THERE...And still "conservative" heroes like Charlie Kirk and Paul Joseph Watson, continue to blather outdated chants and slogans about "those evil Saudis"
(DIR) Post #9iTozTG4t6IcvkHMjA by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T22:02:55Z
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@Sound_Bites Alas, people caught in the crossfire have no choice.Their moral imperative, rightfully so, is survival. I could blame people who remained aloof while I was hunted down. I do not.As for the bad Imams, right there with you. And the bad priests, and the bad shamans, and the bad Pastors, too.
(DIR) Post #9iTptvo7vhArgt7yim by oystergirl@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T22:13:07Z
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@Debradelai Just had a conversation with a store owner from Pakistan who is a Muslim saying how his sister, who settled in Manchester, UK wished she had come to the US with him instead. The existing community cannot STAND the resettled refugees and crime and strife has risen significantly. He said, " I wish she had come here to the US where everyone is so friendly and gets along..." THIS is the true Muslim that most people know. Get out and talk to people and it is amazing what you find out.
(DIR) Post #9iTrIm1PY8sYXCkbui by lolajl@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T22:26:41Z
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@oystergirl @Debradelai What is it about the resettled refugees that the existing community can't stand?
(DIR) Post #9iTrImEsk3edCz3MuW by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T22:28:49Z
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@lolajl @oystergirl More often than not, it is the prejudices of the existing community.Ask the Irish in Boston in 1860, or the Italians in 1910.
(DIR) Post #9iTulRcolLm9XHbuTI by HockeyMom@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-04T23:07:37Z
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@Debradelai Of course he betrayed them all. He is a totalitarian at heart and they always stick together (well, until one wants to be top dog...)
(DIR) Post #9iU06foZhVJPOd3GuO by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:07:29Z
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@IndiaMaria Hear, hear.Who else targets the Saudis for derison?Oh, yes, the Democrats and other allies of Islamists.
(DIR) Post #9iU1SyZkjEFPuJJjzk by Dubby@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:22:43Z
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@Debradelai Islamic National Socialists, I call them Islamzis, those zealots that misuse Islam for power.
(DIR) Post #9iU20O0HD314KIefMe by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:14:50Z
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@IndiaMaria @Debradelai Whether we agree with them or not, we agree they have the right to their opinions and to state them, I trust.
(DIR) Post #9iU20OKTzvBBKy6nrM by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:28:45Z
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@ConnieB @IndiaMaria Does @Jack have a right to his opinion?
(DIR) Post #9iU35Y3nLW0Sv2KGxM by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:40:53Z
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@Debradelai @IndiaMaria @Jack as an entity does, Jack as an individual does. But that doesn't mean he can stifle the free speech of others unless they are threatening violence or something.
(DIR) Post #9iU3YcbnVvvFQK5s8W by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:46:08Z
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@ConnieB @IndiaMaria I beg to disagree.Much as I deride their choices and despise their hypocrisy, I do believe private companies have the right to deny service to anyone for any reason.I also believe that Twitter, in doing so, becomes a publisher and could be sued for content published in their website, much as newpapers do.I have no right to impose myself on anyone, including Twitter.This is a conversation we must have.
(DIR) Post #9iU3xSwca9cWgrgFOq by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:50:38Z
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@Debradelai I strongly agree when it comes to service industries. Refuse service to anyone that upsets the balance. And Twitter had the right to kick people out for no reason. They are blatantly biased. That's the problem. I hope you are right about the Publisher angle. That might have a good impact in the long run.@IndiaMaria
(DIR) Post #9iU4HqG7bofgn5W9dw by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:54:19Z
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@Debradelai Interesting idea being bandied about. @IndiaMaria
(DIR) Post #9iU4Mbu2PcstiJShJg by hejoural@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:55:10Z
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@Debradelai Publisher and editor. http://www.publishinghelp.com/editors/archives/2011/06/entry_539.html@ConnieB @IndiaMaria
(DIR) Post #9iU4kxg56aw6CIXsCe by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T00:59:34Z
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@hejoural @ConnieB @IndiaMaria Bingo.
(DIR) Post #9iU4vr3U4HjGqLgatU by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T01:01:33Z
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@ConnieB @IndiaMaria I actually did a thread on that in 2017.I think people are missing a golden opportunity by fixating in "But, I wanna!"
(DIR) Post #9iU57Yv5JyO44XL8b2 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T01:03:40Z
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@ConnieB @IndiaMaria They are all of that except a public utility.I believe accountants, travel agents and bakers, all in a service industry, have every right to refuse service.
(DIR) Post #9iU6ySD762AcZ9Yc7M by ConnieB@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T01:24:25Z
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@Debradelai @IndiaMaria I know social media is not service industry. It's more like a party-line telephone. Social.
(DIR) Post #9iUBRgnEMDry0We9ho by trueblueTEX@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T02:14:32Z
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@Debradelai Saul, this has been one of the most informative threads I've ever read.I have watched the turmoil in the ME for my WHOLE life (I'm 58). Keeping track of who was what over there was impossible (I blame Peter Jennings and his like)You just clarified so much. I ALWAYS knew that it had to be less complex than I was being led to believe.I think this thread is worthy of one or more ARTICLES!!
(DIR) Post #9iUDrfSs7Pt5KDdhUu by REX@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T02:41:38Z
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@Debradelai @ThomasWic I remember USNavyJack, the original twitter barbarian. At one point in early 2017, he claimed to be a White House insider. Your description fits him perfectly.
(DIR) Post #9iUEOrVWMgpmEOhsLg by REX@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T02:47:36Z
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@Debradelai Another brilliant thread.So many forget that it is patriotic Muslims who have prevented scores of major islamic terrorist attacks, whether that be in the US or elsewhere - example below.They're the ONLY people who can get inside the cells and then report back. It's probably the most dangerous undercover work in the world. Of course if they're caught, they're murdered with unimaginable cruelty.https://www.businessinsider.com/im-an-undercover-fbi-agent-who-infiltrated-a-terror-cell-in-the-us-2017-10
(DIR) Post #9iUFtf6IdvaMgR9ytM by ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T03:04:23Z
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@REX @Debradelai "He was wearing a button-down shirt and jeans rolled up so his pant legs never touched the dirty ground. "Sunni Salafism.The pictures from Benghazi show mostly Salafists.Salafism originated in 19th century Egypt as a reaction to westernization. It's not monolithic, but rolled trouser legs are like the raised index finger. They're almost always a bad sign.
(DIR) Post #9iUHNwKzDleSmh1zYe by karnage@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T03:21:05Z
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@Debradelai Outstanding thread. I have lived and worked in several Muslim countries. The problem is terrorists. Obama enabled them. Trump works against them.
(DIR) Post #9iUI4TO0jjvjRhj8sa by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T03:28:45Z
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@REX Indeed.The lives of our soldiers is daily in their hands, not to mention many of our bravest themselves.Many paid with their lives for Bradley Manning's treason.Many more still risk everything today fighting against Islamists from Afghanistan to Syria and at home.I'll be damned if I'll let a poltroon disrespect them.
(DIR) Post #9iUIiyppENAgZ73JLc by Torchbearer@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T03:36:05Z
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@Debradelai @REX Hooyah!!!!!!
(DIR) Post #9iUJwQcRLE3ASGlfxA by HunDriverWidow@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T03:39:08Z
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@REX @Debradelai I realize this article is about the FBI, however, I keep bringing up the question of how many assets did Hitlery and Zero get tortured, imprisoned, or killed with their home-brew server? And, yes, I add Zero to the mix. Benghazi anyone? Then there's Extortion 17 on Zero's watch and how many more we don't know about. Then shall we discuss the ROE in Iraq, Syria, and Afganistan and how many did Zero and his cabal get killed or injured?
(DIR) Post #9iULBwCkHz8ciJi18y by REX@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T04:03:44Z
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@Debradelai BRAVO
(DIR) Post #9iUN87r7EDgTbCty1g by paullyj57@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T04:25:27Z
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@Debradelai Too few people give credit to w bush and i think you call them neo cons for invading Iraq. They had n choice after 911. The reasons were fully laid out by condi rices speech in cairo https://2001-2009.state.gov/secretary/rm/2005/48328.htmBasically The USA supporting dictatorships during the cold war got the usa nowhere , infact got them 911, and the only solution was to try and shift the people in the middle east towards this. If it was not for Obama this might have been achieved by now.
(DIR) Post #9iUPApowwDqiRSJAKu by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T04:48:21Z
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@paullyj57 I wrote several long threads.I agree with you in all but the US was to blame for 9/11 bull.
(DIR) Post #9iUQFDHxj77ML4WwMa by paullyj57@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T05:00:21Z
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@Debradelai sorry ran out of words. Not blame but GOT 911.
(DIR) Post #9iUQUOjTSfFaAtdhOC by paullyj57@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T05:03:06Z
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@Debradelai I consider what bush and co did was one of the most revolutionary acts in world history. A major attempt to drain the swamp that was the Middle east
(DIR) Post #9iUQcrvgn7y12oOMoi by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
2019-05-05T05:04:37Z
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@paullyj57 Not really, but we can discuss that some other time.