Post 9h3sZ2NDiqWQPdb0YS by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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 (DIR) Post #9h3sZ1xLH3p17NULDc by mrtino@twinkaga.in
       2019-03-23T11:43:25.654318Z
       
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       The only reason I see for Signal not being a self-hosted service is that admins won't update their server at the same time, making security weaker depending on who you are chatting with
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3sZ2CENhjPrYSEQS by mrtino@twinkaga.in
       2019-03-23T11:47:01.107073Z
       
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       tbh I would love to host a Signal server and make custom apps for my lover(s) to be sure our content is in a location I know (for example, at home)But that would need them to trust me on not putting malicious code and updating regularly the system
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3sZ2NDiqWQPdb0YS by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2019-03-23T11:48:21.596201Z
       
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       @mrtino Why not do an XMPP?Pretty sure you can query the version of the clients if disclosed and the software stack is much more open.
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3saWne5GKB4EfPW4 by ctrlaltchaos@aleph.land
       2019-03-23T11:48:38Z
       
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       @mrtino I think the main reason for moxie is the current use of gca and the resulting reduction in user-friendliness of not using it. 🤷‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3srP8joeiAEYa1c8 by mrtino@twinkaga.in
       2019-03-23T11:49:15.848145Z
       
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       @lanodanIt's not as user-friendly as Signal 🤷
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3srPNytyu8zpiCNE by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2019-03-23T11:51:40.094861Z
       
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       @mrtino Yeah but that’s not gonna change if people are going to continue hacking on centralised stuff.
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3t5kqPuqsXbSqxcW by gordon@cybre.space
       2019-03-23T11:50:54Z
       
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       @lanodan @mrtino because it's broken, nobody knows how to use it and there isn't a single working (i mean, *working*) client?
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3t5lCkZok8ijInQm by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2019-03-23T11:54:16.529471Z
       
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       @gordon @mrtino Get signal to be actual free software and not something that kills it owns forks and you’ll get the same actually…Matrix has no working clients either.IRC/Mail clients are basically the only ones without much of this issue because of how simple it is (without the extra features like S/MIME, PGP, HTML).
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3ucA29tj1MwoMU1Q by gordon@cybre.space
       2019-03-23T12:02:26Z
       
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       @lanodan @mrtino yeah, who needs confidentiality anyway…Matrix actually has a single shitty working client. I mean. XMPP doesn’t have one. I tried, really. For many years. But no, even with Conversations or Dino, messages aren’t sent or received. Multi-ressource aren’t working at all
       
 (DIR) Post #9h3ucAKanBlZryzCkq by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2019-03-23T12:11:19.806258Z
       
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       @gordon @mrtino I have yet to have theses kind of issues with poezio or gajim.And OMEMO is basically broken on the implementation sides, I do not know about Conversations but Dino one managed to get a worst UX than the gajim one.And the issue with Matrix is sorry but the same as with Discord basically, only the web interface ~works, the rest is in a circle of non-maintainance and gets broken with API updates.