Post 9gzyiZdSpGSITWNfc0 by abbenm@cybre.space
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(DIR) Post #9gzyiZdSpGSITWNfc0 by abbenm@cybre.space
2019-03-21T13:48:53Z
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William Gibson criticized Cyberpunk 2077. Predictably, the subreddit for the game got stupid about it and insulted him.But this has to be my favorite string of comments from the whole thread:
(DIR) Post #9h0CzjKYyJaeEewuTg by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-03-21T14:34:30Z
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@abbenm @viciousviscosity Fair, though: Gibson hasn't written anything competent since, arguably 1988, really 1986. So nobody under 40 has any reason to know who he was, and nobody has any reason to care what he says now.I read "Johnny Mnemonic" when it came out in OMNI, maintained the Cyberpunk Media List back in the day… he faded out fast.He also had a hilarious has-been moment when he got in Second Life and future-shocked right out when confronted with actual furries, borgs, and posthumans.
(DIR) Post #9h0DSabQV94VZ1b8dc by vegetablegremlin@jorts.horse
2019-03-21T14:34:26Z
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@abbenm what kind of nerd names himself after the computer in Hackers
(DIR) Post #9h1UJIjiKd2PJNA2KW by Eidolon0@anime.website
2019-03-22T08:07:10.806975Z
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@abbenm what did he criticise?
(DIR) Post #9h24lcUI5TR71jkWbA by abbenm@cybre.space
2019-03-22T14:53:39Z
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@Eidolon0 William Gibson saw one of the trailers for Cyberpunk 2077 and just remarked that he wasn't super impressed, basically with the game world presented by the trailer.
(DIR) Post #9h24lco8tfJe1J2NXc by Eidolon0@anime.website
2019-03-22T14:55:40.633614Z
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@abbenm I mean it's not like it's based on his Novel or anything. it's just a genre. i think it looks super fun. if it ever gets released.
(DIR) Post #9h27Xhqre9pHTJMhVo by abbenm@cybre.space
2019-03-22T14:56:56Z
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@Eidolon0 I definitely trust Projekt Red to do that kind of world basically better than anyone else who is attempting it. But it's still kind of guarded optimism.And I don't think it was criticizing it specifically for not following the spirit of a novel of his, but more generally as a representation of any type of cyberpunk world.
(DIR) Post #9h27XhyfBA43rV0vfU by Eidolon0@anime.website
2019-03-22T15:26:46.294692Z
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@abbenm bladerunner, ghost in the shell and deus ex do it best imo
(DIR) Post #9h2zZ37DT9FZEb6RnM by abbenm@cybre.space
2019-03-22T17:06:28Z
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@Eidolon0 I should have been clear, I meant games. And I may literally be the world's single biggest Deus Ex fan (my profile pic is based on it), but I was less than thrilled with recent games. Agree w/ Blade Runner though! And haven't seen Ghost in the Shell.
(DIR) Post #9h2zZ3jVAnsJ9L11TE by Eidolon0@anime.website
2019-03-23T01:32:04.590555Z
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@abbenm if you like philosophy and a somewhat scary peak at where the world might one day end up, check out Ghost.
(DIR) Post #9ibExdEwlKvIDwFlNg by qwertystop@wandering.shop
2019-05-08T11:56:52Z
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@mdhughes @abbenm @viciousviscosity I don't care much about the Reddit thread, but this SL thing, this I gotta see.
(DIR) Post #9ibIsTfnIwPUvAbnWa by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-05-08T12:40:43Z
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@qwertystop @abbenm @viciousviscosity Search (and probably archive.org) will find you the interview about his first time, where he couldn't find anything and was shunned for having an ugly avatar (who'd invite an ugly rando to a party? Nobody. SL took pity on newbies who tried, but not hopeless cases.)And then he had a book promo appearance, the kind of SL tourism very unpopular in SL, and it went… uh, badly. Heckled, surrounded (outside the security area) with offensive content.
(DIR) Post #9ibKi8gqfDSQr8Ie2K by jbob@antisocial.2soc.net
2019-05-08T12:56:34.384253Z
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@mdhughes @viciousviscosity @abbenm @qwertystop Maybe I’m just old, but I think Gibson’s work has improved recently, and honestly his early books, while definitive of much of our modern culture, feel very adolescent to me when I’ve revisited them.If you haven’t read “The Peripheral” you might want to give it a chance. It’s not “far future” like Neromancer felt in 86 but it captures the spirit and gives you something to think about.
(DIR) Post #9ibKi97R4Mj0BajsTg by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-05-08T13:01:18Z
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@jbob @abbenm @viciousviscosity @qwertystop I mostly bailed on Gibson after Idoru which had already happened IRL (not even with a real AI) before he wrote it, and his Spook Country was so awful I didn't finish. I dunno if I can give him another shot when there's a billion other better-record writers in my tsundoku. Supposedly there's a series of The Peripheral, if that's any good I'll look at the book.
(DIR) Post #9ibL9JcA9fuIYY4CAa by jbob@antisocial.2soc.net
2019-05-08T13:04:41.812057Z
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@mdhughes @qwertystop @viciousviscosity @abbenm Yeah I skipped a lot of the stuff between The Sprawl trilogy and The Peripheral. I tried a couple but didn’t connect with them either.I hear you about there being plenty of other stuff to read though, I have a very low endurance for reading fiction so I have to be choosy.
(DIR) Post #9ibL9JnVTUyt7jNFqq by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-05-08T13:06:13Z
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@jbob @abbenm @viciousviscosity @qwertystop Martha Wells' Murderbot Chronicles and Alastair Reynolds' Revenger series have been just amazing. And I'm still hip-deep in a bunch of Peter F. Hamilton tomes, so I'll be done with those around 2022.
(DIR) Post #9ibM3OfEZHKuQxFFBY by jbob@antisocial.2soc.net
2019-05-08T13:10:24.835905Z
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@mdhughes @qwertystop @viciousviscosity @abbenm nice!I could use some short-ish non-dystopian reads.I could use some inspiration for creating a *good* future 😇
(DIR) Post #9ibM3OpVx3Ykwq3SD2 by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-05-08T13:16:21Z
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@jbob @abbenm @viciousviscosity @qwertystop I'm not aware of much. I guess James Gunn's Transcendent trilogy? It's like old-timey space opera.Locus Awards nominees just got posted, probably something in those: https://www.tor.com/2019/05/07/announcing-the-2019-locus-awards-finalists/I liked Sue Burk's Semiosis, but she's got a mean streak.
(DIR) Post #9ibMTbIkCntR9mDjEm by jbob@antisocial.2soc.net
2019-05-08T13:19:00.666430Z
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@mdhughes @qwertystop @viciousviscosity @abbenm Thanks, I’ll check that list out.I read “Accelerando” a few years back and enjoyed most of it (I got a little bored near the end).
(DIR) Post #9ibMTbSJdDY7dShN9k by mdhughes@cybre.space
2019-05-08T13:21:03Z
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@jbob @abbenm @viciousviscosity @qwertystop I loved Charlie's short stories, but he seems to get confused about his point at novel length, and inflicts it on the reader. Every Laundry book has a good Lovecraftian 30-page story buried in 300 pages of text.
(DIR) Post #9ibWXlHi1qjuorMKFk by rick_777@cybre.space
2019-03-21T14:06:44Z
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@abbenm :blobfacepalm: :blobfacepalm: :blobfacepalm: :blobfacepalm: :blobfacepalm: :blobfacepalm:
(DIR) Post #9ibWXlY13DmddQzLfc by Jo@social.diskseven.com
2019-03-21T14:25:26Z
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@rick_777It's funny because these people are probably the same kind of shartdonkeys that thought Gibson would support GamerGate before he crashed their fantasies. XD@abbenm
(DIR) Post #9icF85ILVL01Hvmrrc by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-05-08T23:33:28Z
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@Jo @rick_777 @abbenm I'd say "well, no one can know everything" but when you specifically boast about not knowing who someone is and don't even bother to look up what they did.... you kinda painted yourself into a corner
(DIR) Post #9icFnIV7JGLq7QPdzc by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-05-08T23:40:56Z
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@abbenm transcript:[deleted] (10 points): Who? He sounds like a nobody wanting attention.[deleted] (7 points): You don't know who William Gibson is?[deleted] (3 points): No idea. I assume he is some kind of game critic?