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(DIR) Post #9gto2L0F6SfLmYFXjk by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:10:30Z
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I'm thinking of switching from the German QWERTZ keyboard layout to a US layout, for more convenient programming symbols, and for better pair programming compatibility. Opinions? Experiences?
(DIR) Post #9gtoHK0j4g3334cXy4 by marble@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:13:12Z
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@blinry Totally worth it.If you use X11, you can put the following line into your ~/.xinitrcsetxkbmap -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option nodeadkeys;It's the US layout, but you can use AltGr for the Umlauts.
(DIR) Post #9gtoOCv9pgJH5SId4S by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:14:28Z
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Currently, I have ISO-style hardware (with an L-shaped return key), and I probably don't want to change that (or should I?) On Linux, the "altgr-intl" variant seems convenient for typing umlauts?
(DIR) Post #9gtoYhq1jo1Ds3uDxI by bronsen@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:16:21Z
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@blinry do it.Programming becomes easier to type, I claim. And with the appropriate settings, it is still possible to type umlauts.I have this line in my .xsession/.xinitc: setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option caps:escape # -option compose:prscUmlauts then can be typed like so:Meta R + q -> äMeta R + y -> üMeta R + p -> öMeta R + s -> ß(adding shift will create the corresponding uppercase variants)
(DIR) Post #9gtoeSsWGr8TDAoku8 by telegnom@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:17:24Z
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@blinry I like the gb layout. And I use the compse key function to write "Umlaute"
(DIR) Post #9gtokHFgPVZOtGQKzQ by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:18:27Z
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I'm already remapping the caps lock key to control (or to escape if it's pressed once, via https://github.com/alols/xcape). And I'm using the print key as a compose key. Config:setxkbmap us altgr-intl -option ctrl:nocaps,compose:prscxcape -e "Control_L=Escape"
(DIR) Post #9gtovUaHBM01QOP64u by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:20:29Z
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I'm also swapping the left alt and win keys, because I like to control my window manager using the key labelled "alt", but still need to use key combinations involving alt sometimes:setxkbmap -option swap_lalt_lwinWould you recommend any other remappings?
(DIR) Post #9gtpHiZXr4CLBAeyFk by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:24:29Z
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And finally: I have this weird habit of using only the left ctrl and shift keys. Also using the right keys symmetrically might be beneficial, ergonomically. How do you do this?
(DIR) Post #9gtpgvwzFieluUeGI4 by dwardoric@chaos.social
2019-03-18T15:29:03Z
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@blinryDepends how much other stuff you type. I tried that a long time ago but switched back because I type a lot of text (non programming) with umlauts etc. and I often type at other computers.The latter point is also the reason why I never dived into self built keyboards. ;-)
(DIR) Post #9gtrgtedzKs2hLB8me by toni@cybre.space
2019-03-18T15:51:27Z
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@blinry I’ve been using a US intl. layout for years now. Very good for programming, Umlauts are okay. Since I need symbols more than Umlauts it works better for me.I started using an ergonomic X-Bows keyboard last year, which has ctrl/shift/enter/backspace in the middle of the keyboard as well. I still mostly use the ones on the left hand side, but those in the middle *are* easier to reach.
(DIR) Post #9gtru4eCQcxiYYFp1E by l3viathan@mastodon.social
2019-03-18T15:53:49Z
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@blinry intend to do the same once my new keyboard arrives
(DIR) Post #9gtrwD8voRydU5eEFM by l3viathan@mastodon.social
2019-03-18T15:54:12Z
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@blinry I will switch to a mix though; ISO-style but QUERTY
(DIR) Post #9gtsgB3pt1JyLbBOz2 by bitboxer@awooo.club
2019-03-18T16:02:31Z
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@blinry i only switched a couple of keys to get the best of both worlds without retraining my typing https://bitboxer.de/2012/05/21/german-coding-keyboard-layout-for-macs/. And also capslock is escape for short press and ctrl otherwise
(DIR) Post #9gu5cL7fpjSnndTim8 by noiob@awoo.space
2019-03-18T18:27:29Z
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@blinry I switched and it didn't take me long at all to get used to it. Entering Umlauts is a bit of a hassle now but it's better than having to chord for every bracket
(DIR) Post #9gu5fEbIXUWERLiPIm by enum@chaos.social
2019-03-18T18:28:01Z
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@blinry Did that for a long time, and configured my window manager to automatically switch between qwertz and qwerty depending on the programme. It was better, but still not optimal.In the end I switched to Neo, because it handles *both* applications better (programming AND typing german texts), so I obsoleted that mechanism...
(DIR) Post #9gu7iWstDVsXvIdtPE by kampfcaspar@chaos.social
2019-03-18T18:51:01Z
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@blinryI prefer US international with AltGr dead keys.
(DIR) Post #9gu8QiKvzymIBRpSt6 by uint8_t@chaos.social
2019-03-18T18:59:00Z
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@blinry I use caps lock to switch between hu and us layouts; us for programming and writing on English, hu is for writing in Hungarian or German.I can look up the exact settings if you're interested but a little bit of search can give you the answer. (I'm on the phone right now.)
(DIR) Post #9gvDouOhVDZxT5uHdQ by zornell@chaos.social
2019-03-19T07:34:07Z
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@blinrySince nobody mentioned it (yet). There is the neo layout, which has good ergonomics. But it is hard to learn. I use it so much that any other layout feels really awkward.
(DIR) Post #9gvFT5uIEHzohaPStc by Fellmoon@mastodon.social
2019-03-19T07:52:35Z
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@blinryI'm currently using us-international(on a standalone keyboard) and qwertz, because I have not replaced the keyboard of my t450s yet... using both is far more annoying than switching, I considered typing on us-international as far more enjoyable after a short time. Took me about 2-3 days to accustom to the new mappings for the Umlaute and most of the other signs "feel" like they make more sense while typing - 1/2
(DIR) Post #9gvGaCwEaMcYUTH1KS by poinck@tenforward.social
2019-03-19T08:05:03Z
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@blinry Build your own keyboard with your own preferred layout. (: That helped me a lot. #planck Pair programming should be doable with a second keyboard attached, too. On a regular laptop, there is a "useless“ keyboard, anyway. ^^
(DIR) Post #9gyVxLZMJY1lMfC1Q0 by winniehell@octodon.social
2019-03-20T21:41:28Z
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@blinry yep, I did the same eight years ago. 😄 so far, no regrets (but also no umlauts anymore).
(DIR) Post #9gyavpWUTY4FSKwnIm by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-20T22:37:13Z
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@winniehell Benuetzt du also ueberhaupt keine Umlaute mehr? Benuetzt du des oefteren diese schoenen Doppelvokale?
(DIR) Post #9h2TTORq2qzF7r0Yuu by winniehell@octodon.social
2019-03-22T19:32:30Z
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@blinry Nö, für Umlaute / längere deutsche Texte benutze ich den Desktop-PC, der noch eine deutsche Tastatur hat. 🙂
(DIR) Post #9h2V5TjQwqxoTHxjJQ by blinry@chaos.social
2019-03-22T19:50:34Z
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@winniehell Oh, so you're switching languages with your devices? Interesting! :D