Post 9gnmslJ3U0W4sTMRLU by xyzzy@cybre.space
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(DIR) Post #9gnWJNs31eGon7pxOC by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T13:29:42Z
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Just browsed the search results for pewdiepie and the dude has quite the bot army defending him. Bots being either bots or people following their program, I mean. Like wow. He must be feeling some heat.(in case you didn't know, the white supremacist terrorist who attacked mosques in NZ streamed his attack & apparently one thing he said was "sub to pewdiepie")
(DIR) Post #9gnWMWiuZHpN7G3uim by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T13:39:17Z
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Lots of memes showing things indicating presumed stupidity (like ableist depictions of people with disabilities) or silliness (a clown sitting in front of a computer) saying "this is what you look like when you say pdp is responsible". And there is a "share this" going around with a text image basically saying, if you blame pdp then the terrorist wins bc he wants to foment division. Cont'd...
(DIR) Post #9gnWMWuFt6txgRMyP2 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T13:41:55Z
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It's dangerous because the true aim of the Nazi terrorist seems clear: implicate pdp, his fans go into a defensive crouch, and find support among white supremacists (as they already have done with other instances of pdp's involvement with white supremacy), and become more radicalized as a result. It's already happening. I don't know what to do, except, it is important to accurately describe what's happening at the very least. 💜💜💜💜
(DIR) Post #9gnWMX5xBcG8GiqJdY by Pyretta@sapphos.be
2019-03-15T13:43:00Z
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@SallyStrange He is a major part of having normalised the culture of defending shitty views and shitty actions as "just a joke". Not kidding here when I say the rise of modern fascism would not have happened without him.
(DIR) Post #9gnX6DpFA7DBpHoTPU by matrix@gameliberty.club
2019-03-15T14:32:28Z
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@SallyStrange I have no clue where you pulled this from, but I'm assuming it was out of your ass.PewDiePie is irrelevant in this.
(DIR) Post #9gnXC4yKzXAs6brMTw by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
2019-03-15T14:32:25.782245Z
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@matrix @sallystrange It's funny, these NPCs are doing exactly what the gunman wanted.Dance, puppet.
(DIR) Post #9gnXCeie5M0qyMnL1M by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T14:33:39.134Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe I have no clue where you pulled this from, but I'm assuming it was out of your ass.PewDiePie is irrelevant in this.
(DIR) Post #9gnmhs0GFBPSSiNOq0 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T13:47:48Z
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The goal of defending pdp from criticism helps nobody except Nazi recruiting basically so definitely people should not stop criticizing pdp for being a white supremacist "ironical" "joking" bigot who popularizes white supremacy and enables Nazis.
(DIR) Post #9gnmhsIL9xs5Mmpq1A by bryceyoungquist@mastodon.social
2019-03-15T14:15:31Z
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@SallyStrange extremely sothe underlying disease will still be there, but when you can treat the symptoms you treat the symptoms
(DIR) Post #9gnmhsa46438Fl7ze4 by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-03-15T15:11:42Z
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@bryceyoungquist @SallyStrange I'm sickly fascinated by the phenomenon of people constantly spouting their mechanized WS talking points/images while simultaneously insisting they are not *~*really*~* about hate & don't have any personal stake in these attacks.OTOH, when you see expose' stuff from Antifa groups, you can see how the "volk" proudly own the horrors they unleash... when they think they're only observed by each other. A striking contrast.
(DIR) Post #9gnmsl984uZoNgiVsG by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T15:23:25Z
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@SallyStrange The whole "sub to pewdiepie" movement was already pretty racist and reactionary. Lil racists get scared of India having more internet points than a sweedish fascist, so now you have to sub to pewds or you're helping the "enemy".
(DIR) Post #9gnmslJ3U0W4sTMRLU by xyzzy@cybre.space
2019-03-15T15:58:02Z
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@Roxxie_Riot @SallyStrange sooo... should we start encouraging people to sub to t-series. because i would love nothing more than to see him lose his top spot especially now
(DIR) Post #9gnmslVSjsRPUxALgW by adrint@shitposter.club
2019-03-15T17:28:11.103168Z
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@xyzzy @roxxieriot @sallystrange Lol, imagine being this delusional. Should I ever find myself committing mass murder, I'll be sure to shout out to whichever e-celeb I don't like so you all begin harassing them.
(DIR) Post #9gnn6bRYwv88LJwLj6 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T15:25:05Z
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@Roxxie_RiotDidn't know that. Thanks so much for the background. 💜
(DIR) Post #9gnnC6sdUoP1I2EHlg by DJWalnut@vulpine.club
2019-03-15T14:11:08Z
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@SallyStrange I can confirm, I've seen the footage. he also referenced other nazi memes while driving to the attack
(DIR) Post #9gnnC71qwXm7kcXe8O by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T15:08:10Z
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@DJWalnutThanks, and, I'm sorry you had to see that. 💙
(DIR) Post #9gnnC7GO4VOwThLFmy by DJWalnut@vulpine.club
2019-03-15T15:19:52Z
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@SallyStrange well, I went seeking it, so it was a dead dove situation. but yeah, it's a tough thing to watch. how the fuck do you do that? no remorse either, he memed it up as he was driving there, and after he left. he even went back in to snoot the dead twice, to make sure they were dead. this guy's getting life in prison, no doubt
(DIR) Post #9gnnC7JDtxfacUfWD2 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T15:20:52Z
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@DJWalnutYeah, like, whether you meant to or not, it's still fucked up that this is even an option for any of us :(
(DIR) Post #9gnnC7WL7CA5HAnzea by DJWalnut@vulpine.club
2019-03-15T15:48:41Z
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@SallyStrange I like to read about serial killers for the same reason, a morbid fascination about what motivates them.
(DIR) Post #9gnnLjJrwuJr75YRxg by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T15:33:59Z
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@SallyStrange I think what sealed the deal for "this is a bad movement" is when pewdiepiddle had Elon Musk and Justin Roiliand on to boost his subs. In that moment, an unholy alliance of boer apologists and rick and morty fans coalesed, and the intermet has been intolerable since.
(DIR) Post #9gnnMtOzwnCefqVYx6 by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-03-15T15:34:06Z
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@SallyStrange @Roxxie_Riot For the old fart in the audience, can you explain what "sub to pewdiepie" means? Thanks. :)
(DIR) Post #9gnnOvNxXpEtP6zVpI by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T15:38:26Z
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@SallyStrange @xenophora A youtube channel from India is catching up to pewdipie in subscriptions, so his little gaggle of brownshirts runs around complaining about how they're being replaced and how it "isn't fair that india is overpopulated". So they go around commenting "subscribe to pewdiepie" and blindly defending him from crticism becuase if they don't... Indian people will uh... have more internet points?
(DIR) Post #9gnnPe8x8SyQDbJfBQ by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-03-15T15:40:28Z
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@Roxxie_Riot @SallyStrange Oh, for the love of-- [slaps forehead]Can we just get in a time machine and expunge the whole damn internet now?
(DIR) Post #9gnnR1xE5oh2M8UVqS by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T15:42:25Z
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@SallyStrange @xenophora We could, but we got the plans for the time machine from the internet. Paradox.
(DIR) Post #9gnnR28ZPdlcvJnZWi by xenophora@mastodon.art
2019-03-15T15:44:35Z
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@Roxxie_Riot @SallyStrange Perhaps India's true crime in the eyes of these buttheads is not providing them suitable anime babes for their endless wank fests. o_0
(DIR) Post #9gnnfSfnY7XtHGDjRA by ghost_bird@cybre.space
2019-03-15T13:49:24Z
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@SallyStrange The other thing being, though, that if pdp didn’t have a history of edgy racism then his fans wouldn’t be available for radicalisation in the first place.
(DIR) Post #9gnnfStyhOt7zEr3XU by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T13:51:00Z
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@ghost_birdExactly which is why it is correct and proper to point a finger directly at pewdiepie and say "you are responsible. A murderer gave you credit and now you must accept it."
(DIR) Post #9gnnfT5K1DxiYQA7Dk by Lexi@octodon.social
2019-03-15T17:24:40Z
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@SallyStrange @ghost_bird He should shut down his damn channel in disgrace. I'm sorry if that's _inconvenient_ for him, but it's pretty much the only way to send a message that he doesn't endorse this.And the sad thing is, if I were in his shoes, I'd do this in a heartbeat. I'd have done it by now. But people on the right will never believe that; they can't imagine someone giving up their money maker over principles.
(DIR) Post #9gnnfTJ9Bp1NFId9lo by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T17:27:39Z
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@LexiAbsolutely, and what's the difference between someone who promotes abhorrent views because he sincerely believes them and someone who promotes abhorrent views because it's profitable? Nothing really. Just like "joking" bigotry is still just bigotry. Assigning motives other than pure race hatred to a racist act doesn't change the fact that a racist act was committed. It may influence one's strategy for fighting it. @ghost_bird
(DIR) Post #9gnnfTTmYHWnmHbeLY by matrix@gameliberty.club
2019-03-15T17:38:05Z
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@SallyStrange @Lexi @ghost_bird Imagine being this dumb.
(DIR) Post #9gnnhFTDbmRAuOBkjw by DJWalnut@pleroma.weirdart.space
2019-03-15T17:38:27.637677Z
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@xyzzy @SallyStrange @Roxxie_Riot yes, he's only ahead by 9000 last I checked
(DIR) Post #9gnnhk2hwOePj91WDo by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T16:00:55Z
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@SallyStrange @xyzzy In my opinion, we should be dismantling the hicherarchy that sends people into a racist frothing rage over a number on a computer.
(DIR) Post #9gnnkkPr0dgRknHd7g by matrix@gameliberty.club
2019-03-15T17:39:05Z
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@Lexi @SallyStrange @ghost_bird How do you even exist?
(DIR) Post #9gnno4GleQoiCGcHYm by xyzzy@cybre.space
2019-03-15T16:04:20Z
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@Roxxie_Riot @SallyStrange i mean, yes, that too.i just mean subbing to t-series might be an easy symbolic action people could make to take an awful person down a peg in youtube land.if youtube had any guts they'd kick pdp off their platform but they'd never throw away their biggest moneymaker. it's almost like twitter and trump. no doubt they'll bend any rule for him at this point
(DIR) Post #9gnnp8UXRH33a5ZDBg by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T16:09:22Z
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@SallyStrange @xyzzy It's sad becuase youtube has like, an entire cottage industry of pewdepie apologists. The only reason he's even relevant is becuase he'll make a stink every so often, and all the pundits fall out of the woodwork to defend him and claim their own slice of the controversy veiws. It's a disgusting hive of thought leaders and oppourtunist propagandists.
(DIR) Post #9gnnsr3wBK1ggTtjIO by vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
2019-03-15T16:37:47Z
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@xyzzy @Roxxie_Riot @SallyStrange and/or that Indian chap who keeps giving himself electric shocks with various cursed experiments (alas, I can't remember his channel name but someone tooted a link to his channel just recently) 😆
(DIR) Post #9gnnvh7ZbFViiix7Oi by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T17:41:04.211Z
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@Lexi@octodon.social @SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe @ghost_bird@cybre.space Stop lumping Pewdiepie into this. The only reason he is in this is that the fact that the media hates him and the subscribe to pewdiepie meme is popular. He's irrelevant in this.
(DIR) Post #9gnnvlXFBkQCPUzfxw by Roxxie_Riot@knzk.me
2019-03-15T17:00:08Z
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@vfrmedia @xyzzy @SallyStrange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clQK3ACtnZ0Electroboom maybe?
(DIR) Post #9gnnwkNmxW6T7q2UCG by Lexi@octodon.social
2019-03-15T17:25:21Z
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@SallyStrange @ghost_bird Just like they don't seem to think empathy is real. It's all just people saying stuff to look good as far as they're concerned.
(DIR) Post #9gnnyrRXg9wZbPnpjc by DJWalnut@pleroma.weirdart.space
2019-03-15T17:41:38.677377Z
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@Lexi @ghost_bird @SallyStrange hence the virtue signaling meme
(DIR) Post #9gnonyz7OolXlEstXM by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T17:42:29Z
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@matrix07012You said that before and it's still false. Why are you defending a Nazi-enabling bigot? Is it because you are a bigot or because you have been duped by bigots into defending them? Your instance certainly isn't hostile to Nazis. @Lexi @ghost_bird
(DIR) Post #9gnonzQ3meJh6nUPWy by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T17:50:52.272Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe @Lexi@octodon.social @ghost_bird@cybre.space Because Pewdiepie is a comedian who has a viral meme connected to him. Pewdiepie as a person or his work are unrelated to the shooting.The shooter was fully aware of the reaction saying "subscribe to pewdiepie" is going to create, that's why he said it. We're now doing exactly what he wants.
(DIR) Post #9gnpTYbrqpyC7fpjDE by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T17:52:58Z
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@matrix07012If the shooter did indeed want us to call out pewdiepie for helping (on purpose or otherwise, I claim no special insight into his motives) to radicalize young people worldwide into white supremacy then I really don't mind helping him accomplish that goal@Lexi @ghost_bird
(DIR) Post #9gnpTYmrBylCfkyVLE by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T17:58:23.050Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe @Lexi@octodon.social @ghost_bird@cybre.space The shooter wanted us to argue, radicalize and fight. He wants to be the spark of a revolution. If the phrase "subscribe to pewdiepie" wasn't a thing, he would have said something else controversial.
(DIR) Post #9gnrfGaMtGDpbZqL20 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:07:45Z
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@matrix07012But he chose to say "sub to pewdiepie" for a reason. The reason is that pewdiepie is already alt right and so are many of his fans. Refraining from pointing this fact out helps nobody except pewdiepie and neo-Nazi recruiters. So here you are, doing your part to insulate both him and them from the criticism that "hey white supremacy is bad because this is what it leads to". You're helping neo-Nazis, or trying to anyway.
(DIR) Post #9gnrfGpxxGhONx8nLM by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:09:21Z
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@matrix07012 Here is your expanded talking points. @OCRbot
(DIR) Post #9gnrfH21ESL8zKmQ88 by OCRbot@fedi.lynnesbian.space
2019-03-15T18:09:28Z
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@SallyStrangenomenym 15 points - 20 minutes egoActually, it matters lot. The guy's manifesto makes it clear whyhe said “Subscribe to PewDiePie”. It's because he wants tocreate division and conflict; he wants the media to go afterPewDiePie and his fans; and he wants to accelerate the culturewar. Everything about the attack was cultivated for that end,fram the choice of victims, to the weapons, to the people hereferences, He knows Felix won't approve of his actions, andhe knows Felix wants nothing to do with him. He is associatinghimself with PewDiePie because he wants to see Felixcondemned with that association; he wants the mainstreammedia to run with the narrative that PewDiePie and hisSupporters are altright, or fascist adjacent.If the media falls for the bait, then we'll see the murderer'sultimate plan fulfilled. Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook willlikely be his unwitting pawns as they crackdown on“problematic” people like PewDiePe. If this isn't addressed,then the murders will have not only been a horrific crime, butthey will have also been mission success from the perspectiveof the killers. They cannot be allowed to succeed, so itisactually important here that the regular combatants in theculture war lay down their weapons and refuse to fight overthis. If they don't, then the killers will get exactly what theywant.
(DIR) Post #9gnrfHHcISohli4sRU by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:13:53Z
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Here's the real crux of your propaganda:"Youtube, Twitter, and Facebook willlikely be his unwitting pawns as they crackdown on “problematic” people like PewDiePe... They cannot be allowed to succeed, so it is actually important here that the regular combatants in the culture war lay down their weapons and refuse to fight."@matrix07012
(DIR) Post #9gnrfHYHIW90bNsBPc by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:17:17Z
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Let me boil your talking points down to their essence:"The murderer who's a Nazi wants to foment a race war therefore you should stop criticizing a Nazi-lite guy who has already been shown to be an entry point to white supremacist radicalization."Like I said, it's incoherent. Unless you share the terrorist's actual goal of Nazis winning this "culture war". @matrix07012
(DIR) Post #9gnrfHlOVkdVG40erA by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:22:53.030Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe It's only incoherent if you think Pewdiepie is alt-right, which is false. Some of his fans are, but that's a given considering he has 88 million of them.
(DIR) Post #9gns9LHO0GBkqmJ0s4 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:25:14Z
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@matrix07012PewDiePe is obviously alt rightGo ahead define alt right for me
(DIR) Post #9gns9LVv8DoZZr6cWe by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:28:20.660Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe group of loosely connected white supremacists/white nationalists, white separatists, anti-Semites, neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, neo-Confederates and Holocaust deniers
(DIR) Post #9gnt7zu25zEEDTIy80 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:31:13Z
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@matrix07012Honestly when nearly 50 are murdered by a white supremacist shouting your edgelord hero's name, and your main response is "leave pewds alone" then it becomes difficult to tell you apart from a genuine bigot, let alone pewdiepieAt the very least, your concern for pdp far eclipses your concern for the fear and trauma Muslims and POC in the "west" are feeling today
(DIR) Post #9gnt806nKXR8r3HA1I by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:39:18.601Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe I understand their fear, but they have nothing to fear, unless the shooter reaches his goal.Going after pewdiedie solves nothing.
(DIR) Post #9gntyru2ZMxskkWGEy by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:35:30Z
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@matrix07012There ya go, that includes people who shout racial slurs during "heated gaming moments," blame India's population for an Indian channel almost getting more internet points than him, follows alt right people on Twitter, and "accidentally" recommends anti-Semitic contenthttps://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/18136253/pewdiepie-vs-tseries-links-to-white-supremacist-alt-right-redpill
(DIR) Post #9gntys8vg0sHUvU9Ro by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:48:51.779Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe Finally someone mentions that he follows Molyneux and Pettibone. You are close, but that's not enough. I follow anarchists, communists etc. Am I one?That article is a hitjob which can be summarized by "comedian told jokes, yelled an insult and recommended a funny video".
(DIR) Post #9gnuCR8Itd57mWf1jU by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:47:10Z
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@matrix07012Your claim is that the shooter wants us to criticize pewdiepie for his many many instances of "jokingly" using Nazi, white supremacist, anti-Semitic memes. To which I reply: great. That makes no sense that the killer would want that, but in this case I am happy to oblige because 1. It's good to remind dipshits like pdp (and you) that Nazism has consequences and 2. I don't see any downsides.
(DIR) Post #9gnuCRJeDS9iLhy5Pk by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:51:19.098Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe My claim is that the shooter knows you're going to that based on false premises.
(DIR) Post #9gnux4n1mkRG60ws52 by SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe
2019-03-15T18:53:14Z
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@matrix07012Clearly you are not an anarchist, ya fucking fascistThis conversation is ending. You are either not clever enough to realize that you are being duped, or attempting to lie to me about pewdiepie, and aren't clever enough to see that I'm not going to fall for it. I wish you similar failure in your future white supremacist propagandizing. I hope you step on Legos every day forever.
(DIR) Post #9gnux508zyvkkh5LWa by matrix07012@waifuappreciation.club
2019-03-15T18:59:44.686Z
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@SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe Jokes aren't a sincere expression of a believe.Sayonara.(=^・・^=)