Post 9ghe180GumZX3HjKAy by drwho@hackers.town
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 (DIR) Post #9ghRKsqXg9AuQnGjjM by h@sunbeam.city
       2019-03-12T15:15:12Z
       
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       You handed it over to them, Tim.Remember when they included DRM in the drafts? Well, you fucked up and it's too late to cry now.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghRKt7CgCVDGT42hU by vertigo@mastodon.social
       2019-03-12T15:47:15Z
       
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       @h Thank you.  We all gave our warnings.  We all showed prior historical precedent.  We all showed our predictions of the impacts.  And he didn't fuckin' listen.Welcome to your brave, new world.  Oh, and Tim, get fucked with a hot fireplace poker.  You've lost *ALL* credibility with me.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghXN3lMf6TOamGfzM by drwho@hackers.town
       2019-03-12T16:25:03Z
       
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       @vertigo @h When we raised our objections in the working group meetings, we were ignored (at best) and asked to leave (at the very end).  It was pretty much a foregone conclusion from the first time they told us to shut up.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghY37Vb7rUON6wuUi by alcinnz@floss.social
       2019-03-12T17:14:44Z
       
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       @drwho @vertigo @h I must say I recall him pointing to a blogpost which suggested that EME would allow Netflix to experiment with NOT having DRM. (I don't understand why they couldn't already.)Now when Netflix is largely making their own stuff (hence DRM obligations), I instead find Vimeo On Demand opposite direction. And they're so discrete about their labeling I struggle to trust them.Just venting.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghYGWGmNOOwvnPJGi by vertigo@mastodon.social
       2019-03-12T17:16:51Z
       
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       @alcinnz @drwho @h Netflix absolutely could experiment with DRM-free content.  They merely used that as a bargaining chip when approaching the W3C about the proposal.  They ate it, hook, line, and sinker.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghZEkHFQRSBkYLPPM by vertigo@mastodon.social
       2019-03-12T17:28:00Z
       
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       @alcinnz @drwho @h It's OK -- I think we're all justified in venting.
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghZWKXvpaST9wX7k8 by h@sunbeam.city
       2019-03-12T17:31:12Z
       
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       @alcinnz "Venting" has a social purpose and that is to educate those who weren't around when those fuckers were destroying the web. It's okay to warn. Moreover, it may be a moral imperative to warn.It's not mindless frustration, although it may have the form of that sometimes. It signals that some people aren't to be trusted again.@drwho@hackers.town @vertigo
       
 (DIR) Post #9ghe180GumZX3HjKAy by drwho@hackers.town
       2019-03-12T18:21:25Z
       
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       @alcinnz @vertigo @h ☕