Post 9gZGHyPLtLRY3CHV6u by balrogboogie@ceilidh.space
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(DIR) Post #9gZGHyPLtLRY3CHV6u by balrogboogie@ceilidh.space
2019-03-08T17:16:27Z
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I'm going to start trying to put together a NAS/backup system for my home network, anyone have any recommendations? Would you buy something or cobble together something with RPIs?
(DIR) Post #9gZGT7YoCeaVcd1JHk by kemonine@social.holdmybeer.solutions
2019-03-08T17:20:09.718630Z
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@balrogboogie Depends on how much data integrity / failsafe you want to be with the disks and how much network bandwidth you want and how much aggregate storage...I may have some ideas depending on what you're looking for feature and data integrity and speed wise.(Pictured are 2 little NAS units I'm currently vetting for some things)IMG_20190307_201106_copy.jpgIMG_20190307_224433_copy.jpg
(DIR) Post #9gZGeWs4RH5BJ6TAxs by inkblot_sandwiches@elekk.xyz
2019-03-08T17:19:20Z
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@balrogboogie Buying a synology NAS or something similar is gonna be by far the easiest option. Depending on how much else you need it to do you can roll your own and install either FreeNAS (big, pretty, lots of plugins, but heavy) or XigmaNAS (slim and light, old codebase, only does NAS but does it well)
(DIR) Post #9gZGeX8jRKPU8mGTw0 by kemonine@social.holdmybeer.solutions
2019-03-08T17:22:12.473188Z
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@inkblot_sandwiches @balrogboogie If you go the FreeBSD route that'll be a NUC or similar piece of hardware that's the x86 form of rpiOpenMediaVault is similar but also supports arm arches if you go arm.
(DIR) Post #9gZGhy97UIHUlf5Ibw by tom@slime.global
2019-03-08T17:20:30Z
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@balrogboogie I bought a Synology DS414J a couple of years ago and I still couldn't be happier tbh, that was really worth it.
(DIR) Post #9gZGixU9QiLj0YOSMS by Zuph@octodon.social
2019-03-08T17:22:20Z
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@balrogboogie What I did: Bought a cheap Dell disk shelf from the late 2000's and hooked it up to an old server. Holds 15 SATA Drives. RAID config and speed are up to the HBA you get. I just went with a Linux soft raid.Disadvantages: Loud, kinda power hungry (~150 watts idle).
(DIR) Post #9gZIfSwqi3RVL2HMpM by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-03-08T17:44:49.446974Z
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@balrogboogie if you want to go with pi's then you also need a powered usb hub, because a pi won't have enough power to run otherwhise
(DIR) Post #9gZIzs1tAS7AuzMkoC by kellerfuchs@vulpine.club
2019-03-08T17:28:09Z
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@balrogboogie Probably not with an actual RPi, because network and storage are attached over USB on those (so perf and reliability issues).I guess it strongly depends on your budget (both money and spoons) and constraints (amount of storage, reliability, performance, ...). The easy thing is likely Synology or somesuch, but they have pretty bad security (I posted about that recently).@kemonine is looking at doing some homebrewed thing using a NanoPi, which ought to be pretty decent (4× SATA attached over PCI Express, Gigabit Ethernet, some decent amount ot RAM) :3
(DIR) Post #9gZJ6qUtGM04C2G0zQ by kemonine@social.holdmybeer.solutions
2019-03-08T17:49:44.731741Z
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@kellerfuchs @balrogboogie the synologies also lack easy data recovery and resiliency in the case of hardware failures in my experience.software raid only goes so far and that has some inherent failure modes with data corruption.
(DIR) Post #9gZJ7i0yHo9aAsfsqu by kellerfuchs@vulpine.club
2019-03-08T17:29:26Z
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@balrogboogie Amusingly, @astraluma made me look at the same hardware (NanoPi + SATA hat) that @kemonine is considering, independently. :3
(DIR) Post #9gZN9axnsAHyhZLcNk by balrogboogie@ceilidh.space
2019-03-08T18:06:43Z
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@kemonine thanks!
(DIR) Post #9gZTBn2EYsroRdqkFs by kithop@social.kithop.ca
2019-03-08T18:10:37Z
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@balrogboogie Depending on how big you're going, you may want to avoid RAID 5 and 6 in favour of 0 + 1 (or 1 + 0), because the rebuild times get scary with multi-TB drives.I like ZFS-on-FreeBSD; I've heard lots of good things about FreeNAS, but the RAM requirements for large pools may put it beyond typical ARM SBCs like the Pi.I've been looking at the RockPro64 though too as it has a PCIe slot that can support a SATA controller.
(DIR) Post #9gZTLbhNZ52gBJmBnc by kemonine@social.holdmybeer.solutions
2019-03-08T19:44:27.916980Z
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@kithop @balrogboogie Anything over 2gb of ram should be OK with zfs. I've found 4 to be a good sweet spot. 😉 If you're looking at the RockPro64 you may also want to consider the Nano Pi M4 + sata add-on it's a rockchip 3399 with 2 or 4gb RAM and the add-on ties a marvell sata chip to one of the pci express lanesAs an aside: I'm seeing some strange dkms stuff with Ubuntu on armbian / debian right now where they aren't always re-building the zfs and spl modules on updates.If arm is preferred I'd tread lightly.