Post 978191 by tbernard@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #978188 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:00:59Z
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Every day it becomes a little more clear to me why we *need* GNOME OS
(DIR) Post #978189 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:07:16Z
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The desktop/distro separation just doesn't work. There's no clean way to square the interests of platforms and distributions (because every distribution thinks of itself as a platform, when they really aren't).
(DIR) Post #978190 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:12:08Z
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This isn't GNU/Linux specific either, Android has the same problem. Every OEM wants to be Apple, but doesn't want to do the work of maintaining a full vertical platform.This incentivizes them to make decisions that are actively user-hostile (such as pushing out updates more slowly because they need to update their custom UI stuff).
(DIR) Post #978191 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:27:05Z
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We see the same dynamic playing out on the GNU/Linux desktop: Ubuntu, Fedora, Pop OS etc. are pretending to be platforms, but they're not.This results in a situation where everyone is trying to do campy "value-add" features, and pushing their brand in users' faces. It's why atrocities like the Fedora logo extension, and developer-hostile custom system stylesheets are a thing even though everyone knows these are bad ideas.
(DIR) Post #978192 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:38:56Z
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Of course it's a little different on Android, because Google has long made Nexus/Pixel devices, which ship a clean version of the platform without OEM "improvements".But even on the free desktop there are examples of this: elementaryOS is famously vertical by design, Budgie has Solus, and even KDE has Neon. We're the only platform that you *can't* get without going through a distributor.
(DIR) Post #978193 by tbernard@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T13:41:58Z
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Bottom line: We need GNOME OS, and we need it now.
(DIR) Post #978194 by timapple@fosstodon.org
2018-11-04T15:51:47Z
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@tbernardYou would still be using one of the above mentioned arch, debian, Ubuntu, or something as a base... If gnome created their own distro from scratch, I'm pretty sure it would be incomplete for most users...you need those bases to have what everyone needs.
(DIR) Post #978195 by alatiera@mastodon.social
2018-11-04T16:07:42Z
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@timapple @tbernard That won't be the case. The OS would be just an OStree image of the Buildstream project that's used to already manage the releases and build the GNOME runtime/sdk. And thanks to Flatpak you won't miss out on content/apps either.Essentially apps that target the GNOME flatpak runtime are already targeting the GNOME OS base.