Post 70021 by RedCeres@knzk.me
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(DIR) Post #70006 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:34:30Z
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hot take: AI wont ever have anything resembling human consciousness unless it has a similar way of "being-in-the-world" as we do
(DIR) Post #70021 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:35:35Z
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@thatcosmonaut this is also why we're going to be stuck building consciousnesses we can already map out if its at all possible, probably with neurological development like a child and everything.
(DIR) Post #70037 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:36:28Z
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@thatcosmonaut also this isn't that hot if fucking DREYFUS agrees with you!!1
(DIR) Post #70038 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:36:28Z
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what does it mean to be conscious? is your brain sitting in a vat? isnt the feeling of being hungry, or frustrated because you stubbed your toe, or your happiness when you spend time with loved ones, as essential to your consciousness as your intellect?
(DIR) Post #70043 by aeonofdiscord@icosahedron.website
2018-09-18T03:36:53Z
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@thatcosmonaut correct take imo
(DIR) Post #70052 by sad_bitch@soc.ialis.me
2018-09-18T03:37:07Z
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@thatcosmonautI won't grant them consciousness until they too are alienated from their species-being by their labor under this inhuman mode of production.
(DIR) Post #70055 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:37:36Z
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@RedCeres dreyfus is a pretty spicy boi when compared against pop culture imaginings of AI
(DIR) Post #70064 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:38:04Z
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@sad_bitch amen
(DIR) Post #70072 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:38:18Z
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@thatcosmonaut he changed my whole perspective on it. Brilliant guy.
(DIR) Post #70087 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-09-18T03:39:12Z
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@RedCeres i was ruminating on my AI skepticism for a while before i came across him but he really brought it all together in a cohesive way for me
(DIR) Post #70947 by GusHobbleton@mastodon.social
2018-09-18T04:43:56Z
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@thatcosmonaut i think that if we ever do develop AI that "thinks like a human" or whatever that means then it will be something we do long long after AI already exceeds us and it will be done as a gimmick project. it would be like making a horseless carriage that uses a robotic horse to pull it instead of its own engine. utterly unnecessary but hey we COULD make it.
(DIR) Post #71358 by garpu@mastodon.social
2018-09-18T05:25:27Z
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@thatcosmonaut sounds like quest text for no man's sky.
(DIR) Post #73918 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-09-18T10:58:10Z
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@thatcosmonautIt's been known in some circles for 2500 years that:form -> sensation -> association -> discrimination -> consciousness is a cumulative process.
(DIR) Post #86035 by caltissue@pdx.social
2018-09-18T17:51:06Z
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@thatcosmonaut this. I can't help feeling embodiment is central to awareness