Post 671551 by bob@soc.freedombone.net
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(DIR) Post #671550 by andreipetcu@mastodon.social
2018-09-29T21:18:20Z
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Is it just me or the people that disable #telemetry in #Mozilla #Firefox are just a little bit paranoid. Also they don't seem to understand what data is collected as part of telemetry.r/privacy - What is wrong with browser telemetry?#privacy #security #gdprhttps://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/9jvxxe/what_is_wrong_with_browser_telemetry/
(DIR) Post #671551 by bob@soc.freedombone.net
2018-10-21T08:46:31.853630Z
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@andreipetcu The data that Mozilla collects is extensive, but even if it wasn't it's still data taken without consent. There is never anything informing the user that their behavior is being monitored and sent back to a central location, so in most cases there is no possibility for the user to make an informed choice about whether what Mozilla is doing is legit or not (hint: it isn't).
(DIR) Post #671552 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-10-21T10:48:22.913141Z
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@bob@andreipetcuTelemetry data on its own may not be paticularly insidious, however it can fill in a lot of blanks its like being able to view certain events within the highstreet in a town eg:When shop doors open and close, When a till within a shop is used,When somthing is place in a trash bin, When a street crossing button is pressed.Just knowing this has no value but will enable an overview for how the highstreet works.However if the telemetry data is combined with other data, like footage from CCTV that can view the events in real time you can tie those events with people.Now if the CCTV company knows of an individual on the footage (eg: due to a parking app), it allows them to gain further insight into that persons habits.What If that CCTV company operated the instore cameras and by agreement with the stores also has acccess to the instore telemetry, that would allow the CCTV company to have a complete profile to visitors experience on the highstreetif they did not know about the telemetry they would only have pockets of informtion and not the whole picture I know this is a flawed analogy, however it gets the value of telemetry data across I think
(DIR) Post #672105 by bob@soc.freedombone.net
2018-10-21T10:58:10.441517Z
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@jason @andreipetcu Mozilla's telemetry isn't like knowing when a door is opened or closed. It's much more personally identifiable than that. Your individual computer phones home with a personally identifiable fingerprint and IP address and transmitting various "histograms".But it's true that the end product to Mozilla's telemetry pipe doesn't say much about individuals. Google want access to that precisely because they can then combine it with their existing data.This is pure supposition, but I think it's also almost certain that other agencies will have access to the incoming telemetry server.
(DIR) Post #672106 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-10-21T11:32:50.137759Z
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@bobI know my previous toot is flawed, but I felt it helps explain why telemetry data is the new gold, and why any telemetry sharing is inherently bad regardless of which entity gathers it.The amount of generated telemetry by even just 3 entities (mozilla, microsoft, google) is staggering and is increasingly difficult to avoid.Heres an interesting link for anyone that was not aware of it https://telemetry.mozilla.org@andreipetcu
(DIR) Post #672260 by succfemboi@iscute.moe
2018-10-21T11:33:48.674151Z
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@bob @jason @andreipetcu just switch to waterfox
(DIR) Post #672261 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-10-21T11:41:23.136545Z
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@succfemboiI did for a while, but now use QuteBrowser which like Falkon is an excellent qtwebkit web browser.Im just glad that Windows figures very little into my computing life as that thing is a monster for telematics generation, even when on its reduced settings (there is no off)@bob @andreipetcu