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(DIR) Post #662683 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:54:07Z
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Who can spot what's embarrassingly wrong with this Logitech Craft keyboard?This is a bit awkward, especially considering this being their "high-end" model, which goes for roughly $200.
(DIR) Post #662691 by hirnbrot@mstdn.io
2018-10-20T21:55:23Z
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@fribbledom The keypad is the wrong way around - 1 needs to be at the top left, darnit!
(DIR) Post #662692 by bridge@deadinsi.de
2018-10-20T21:55:25Z
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@fribbledom chicklet keys and it’s a membrane keyboard 🤢
(DIR) Post #662695 by mathias@mastodon.opportunis.me
2018-10-20T21:54:47Z
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@fribbledom double bild! 😅
(DIR) Post #662697 by emsenn@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:55:45Z
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@fribbledom hahaha whoops!
(DIR) Post #662698 by spineberg@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:55:47Z
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@fribbledom all PGUP from here, folks
(DIR) Post #662700 by v@cdmx.rocks
2018-10-20T21:55:54Z
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@fribbledom it has too many locks 🔒
(DIR) Post #662701 by Vetra@extranet.palaven.space
2018-10-20T21:56:00Z
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@fribbledom wait, what's that, with the num lock key?Does the num lock key also shut down your screen or what? Oo
(DIR) Post #662702 by lunch@knzk.me
2018-10-20T21:56:03Z
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@fribbledom hit nine for page up hit 3 for page up
(DIR) Post #662703 by Anke@tootplanet.space
2018-10-20T21:56:10Z
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@fribbledom The numpad has two page up but no page down
(DIR) Post #662707 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:56:26Z
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@Anke Spot on!
(DIR) Post #662708 by thamesynne@dragon.style
2018-10-20T21:56:26Z
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@fribbledom ohhh ouch! the 3 on the numeric pad :-/
(DIR) Post #662709 by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
2018-10-20T21:56:29Z
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@fribbledom low keys / small key travel distance ?
(DIR) Post #662711 by ben@mastodon.lubar.me
2018-10-20T21:56:45Z
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@fribbledom you need three page up keys just in case.
(DIR) Post #662717 by noiob@awoo.space
2018-10-20T21:57:16Z
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@fribbledom I mean who scrolls down anyhow
(DIR) Post #662721 by elchapo@knzk.me
2018-10-20T21:57:28Z
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@fribbledom idk what bild does but it probs needs a down version
(DIR) Post #662724 by shanecyr@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:57:37Z
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@fribbledom ugh two page ups or at least that’s what we’d call them here. Presumably the function is correct, the cap is not?
(DIR) Post #662731 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:58:08Z
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@shanecyr Yeah, it's just a misprint...
(DIR) Post #662735 by raccoonwillie@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:58:15Z
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@fribbledom ...it's missing the joystick. So what kind of prize do I win?
(DIR) Post #662751 by ruxnor@ruxnor.net
2018-10-20T21:58:53Z
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@fribbledom comma instead of period?(TIL the Home key is called Pos1 in 🇩🇪 keyboard)
(DIR) Post #662754 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T21:59:15Z
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@raccoonwillie My old washing machine... You can come pick it up in my basement anytime that suits you! 😂
(DIR) Post #662762 by inthedarkwelive@chaos.social
2018-10-20T21:59:43Z
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@fribbledom The arrow on 3 should point down?
(DIR) Post #662763 by ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-10-20T21:58:44Z
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@fribbledom 3 and 9 both point up. 🤣
(DIR) Post #662772 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:00:27Z
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@Vetra I think you can configure its behavior. But that's not it :-)
(DIR) Post #662788 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:01:38Z
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@ruxnor Nope, that's not it. That's just the german layout. Look closer (or read the other toots in the thread for the solution) 😊
(DIR) Post #662789 by stillinhere@octodon.social
2018-10-20T22:01:41Z
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@fribbledom 🙄 Wow. Just, yeah, wow.
(DIR) Post #662792 by v@cdmx.rocks
2018-10-20T22:01:51Z
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@fribbledom bild twice?
(DIR) Post #662797 by ruxnor@ruxnor.net
2018-10-20T22:02:17Z
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@fribbledom oh shit lmao
(DIR) Post #662799 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:02:19Z
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@v Check out the arrows on the "Bild" (which means "page") keys.
(DIR) Post #662813 by Vetra@extranet.palaven.space
2018-10-20T22:02:58Z
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@fribbledom Saw it afterwards, it's indeed embarrassing 🤣
(DIR) Post #662825 by openscience@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:03:28Z
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@fribbledom 😋 😂
(DIR) Post #662834 by v@cdmx.rocks
2018-10-20T22:03:48Z
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@fribbledom LOL!
(DIR) Post #662848 by zlg@social.zlg.space
2018-10-20T21:58:35.098965Z
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@fribbledom @shanecyr Inexcusable on a $200 keyboard IMO.
(DIR) Post #662849 by shanecyr@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:01:00Z
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@zlg @fribbledom it certainly leaves one wondering what else is wrong.
(DIR) Post #662850 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:04:38Z
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@shanecyrActually, I can tell you: all keyboards with that misprint are from the first production run. They also have unbearably squeaky space bars. An awful, properly annoying sound, every time you press space.It's the reason I eventually returned mine - I could have ignored the misprint, I guess, even though you can't unsee it once you've noticed it.@zlg
(DIR) Post #662911 by archadia@tootplanet.space
2018-10-20T22:08:43Z
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@fribbledom oh my. Just keep scrolling up, I guess.
(DIR) Post #662915 by Mnemonic@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:08:54Z
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@fribbledom Page down goes up?
(DIR) Post #662962 by rpcutts@brainvom.it
2018-10-20T22:12:22Z
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@fribbledom
(DIR) Post #662973 by rpcutts@brainvom.it
2018-10-20T22:12:54Z
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@fribbledom doesn't have a nubbin joystick so can't be considered "high end" 😜
(DIR) Post #662977 by v@cdmx.rocks
2018-10-20T22:07:47Z
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@fribbledom keyboards are dumb, I had to teach English to mine
(DIR) Post #662978 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:12:36Z
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@v Hah, that looks cute! I do work with an English layout myself, but I guess I couldn't be bothered to fix the caps as I tend to never look at those keys anyway.
(DIR) Post #663014 by rootfs_ext2_gz@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:15:35Z
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@fribbledom please tell me they haven't actually programmed the #3 key to be page up as well? I'd like to hope it was just a keyboard printing error (one that shouldn't happen given the price, but still)
(DIR) Post #663019 by v@cdmx.rocks
2018-10-20T22:15:54Z
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@fribbledom Thanks :) I have to switch between english and spanish constantly and I always forget where the symbols are until I get my groove back :confuseder:
(DIR) Post #663034 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:16:55Z
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@rootfs_ext2_gz It's just a misprint luckily. That being said all the models from this production have other issues, too. See the other toots in the thread.
(DIR) Post #663042 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:17:21Z
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@v It'll come over time, no worries.
(DIR) Post #663048 by dimitrishuter@snouts.online
2018-10-20T22:18:27Z
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@fribbledom flip numpad 3 upside down, problem fixed ;)
(DIR) Post #663093 by raccoonwillie@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:21:09Z
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@fribbledom whaaa thaaaa faaack
(DIR) Post #663117 by sophia@queer.party
2018-10-20T22:22:26Z
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@fribbledom Is it the 9 and 3 keys? I don't speak Dutch(? is that Dutch? I wanted to guess but didn't want to look like I thought I knew what I was talking about) though, so it's only a guess. Or the 1, 2, and 3 keys above the 7, 8, and 9 keys?
(DIR) Post #663121 by msh@coales.co
2018-10-20T22:22:36Z
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@fribbledom it's like...http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-04-12
(DIR) Post #663142 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:23:18Z
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@sophia It's the arrow misprint on the 3. "Bild" is German for "page".
(DIR) Post #663148 by penguin42@mastodon.org.uk
2018-10-20T22:23:37Z
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@fribbledom Who wants to go down anyway?
(DIR) Post #663156 by rotatingvhs@laserdisc.party
2018-10-20T22:24:37Z
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@fribbledom okay I don’t see it
(DIR) Post #663159 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:25:09Z
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@rotatingvhs Check out the other toots in the thread 😉
(DIR) Post #663160 by sophia@queer.party
2018-10-20T22:25:09Z
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@fribbledom Oh lmao I was so distracted by worrying about the words! Also I should have remembered that from university; I guess not practicing German for 7 years after taking only two semesters'll do that.
(DIR) Post #663185 by cybik@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:27:21Z
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@fribbledom I can, lolgitech
(DIR) Post #663186 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:27:23Z
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@sophia Well, technically it's not even true: "Bild" is actually German for "image".But in the case of a keyboard, the "Bild Hoch" key has the same meaning as your "Page Up" key.
(DIR) Post #663192 by derwinmcgeary@octodon.social
2018-10-20T22:28:21Z
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@fribbledom the only way is up, baby!
(DIR) Post #663211 by sophia@queer.party
2018-10-20T22:30:13Z
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@fribbledom Oh! I see. I googled "bild" and it came up with a newspaper; I'm guessing that "bild" can be used in the figurative sense of "a certain amount of information"?
(DIR) Post #663278 by zwangseinweisung@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:34:52Z
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@fribbledom Thats a Rev a Keyboard. Newer ones dont have the wrong print
(DIR) Post #663282 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:35:19Z
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@sophia The biggest German tabloid is called "Bild".The word "Bild" itself really just means "image", "picture" or "drawing".It's kind of incorrectly translated when it comes to keyboards, but "Bild" became the standard and people stuck with it. The correct translation for "page" would be "Seite".
(DIR) Post #663297 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:35:58Z
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@zwangseinweisung Correct. The first production run also had other issues, see the other toots in this thread.
(DIR) Post #663314 by sophia@queer.party
2018-10-20T22:37:00Z
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@fribbledom Hail seiten siete veces!
(DIR) Post #663332 by zwangseinweisung@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:36:20Z
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@bridge @fribbledom Well, i Like but this one is far too expensive :(
(DIR) Post #663333 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:38:59Z
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@zwangseinweisung Yeah, sadly it isn't exactly value for money. I eventually returned mine due to more issues and went with a Razer Ornata instead. I still liked the general build quality of the Logitech, but the Razer turned out to be the better choice.@bridge
(DIR) Post #663346 by sophia@queer.party
2018-10-20T22:40:09Z
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@fribbledom But in all seriousness thank you for answering my questions :)
(DIR) Post #663390 by shibayashi@communicating.cypherpunk.observer
2018-10-20T22:38:08.016755Z
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@sophia @fribbledomJust looked this up: when Bild was founded, it consisted mostly of pictures, hence the name. A little bit disappointing, because I thought it comes from “im Bilde sein”, which means “to be informed”.
(DIR) Post #663391 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:43:23Z
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@shibayashi Funnily their slogan is "Bild dir deine Meinung" which translates to "Make up your own opinion" or "judge for yourself".Apart from that they're the worst imaginable yellow press, on par with "National Enquirer" and the likes.@sophia
(DIR) Post #663398 by RebelsHeart@mastodon.social
2018-10-20T22:43:46Z
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@fribbledom the two page up keys on the number pad
(DIR) Post #663598 by hund@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-20T23:01:23Z
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@fribbledom You paid $200 for that? :/
(DIR) Post #663869 by alas@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-20T23:20:45Z
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@fribbledom apart from the duplicate pgup, the fact that it’s a standard rubber dome membrane keyboard is pretty embarrassing... especially considering Logitech has their own mech switches
(DIR) Post #664938 by MOTT@qoto.org
2018-10-21T00:34:31Z
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@fribbledom That is very embarrassing. I wouldn't spend $200 on that.
(DIR) Post #665310 by benoitj@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-21T00:56:18Z
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@hund @fribbledom that's a shame, it is roughly the cost of a preonic
(DIR) Post #665311 by benoitj@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-21T00:58:18Z
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@hund @fribbledom this is what I built for this price
(DIR) Post #665312 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-21T00:59:07Z
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@benoitj Nice work!@hund
(DIR) Post #665592 by benoitj@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-21T01:25:00Z
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@fribbledom @hund thanks, the result is great, it looks harder to build than it actually is
(DIR) Post #666674 by tlff3310@friends.nico
2018-10-21T02:54:20Z
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@fribbledom 9 and 3
(DIR) Post #667308 by TreeVor@mastodon.social
2018-10-21T04:04:09Z
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@fribbledom I guess they just don’t want to get you down 😉
(DIR) Post #668336 by honeysweet@mastodon.social
2018-10-21T06:18:59Z
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@fribbledom it’s not in my language but the 9 and 3 both have ^ up arrows?
(DIR) Post #668540 by pallgone@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-21T06:37:20Z
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@fribbledom the Logitech Cruft keyboard...
(DIR) Post #669992 by dreadfulwaIe@freeradical.zone
2018-10-21T08:54:19Z
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@fribbledom Oh.
(DIR) Post #670049 by maverynthia@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-10-21T09:02:24Z
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@fribbledom There is no PageDown, there is only PAGEUP
(DIR) Post #672132 by Anke@tootplanet.space
2018-10-21T11:34:29Z
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@fribbledom And how does it feel for typing?
(DIR) Post #672147 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-21T11:35:45Z
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@Anke The keyboard as such felt great for typing and I still consider it good build quality, except... except for this misprint and an unbearably squeaky space bar. Which is the reason I eventually decided to return it.
(DIR) Post #672207 by Anke@tootplanet.space
2018-10-21T11:37:51Z
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@fribbledom Yeah, for THAT price, it should actually work VERY well.I saw it a few days ago and considered putting it on my wishlist... Do you happen to know if the dial thingy can work with any software, or just with MS and Adobe products?
(DIR) Post #672256 by fribbledom@mastodon.social
2018-10-21T11:41:16Z
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@AnkeThe dial is actually another let down: it simply emits volume key events.You can make that work with pretty much any application, but it also means you lose your global shortcuts for lowering / raising the volume.If you're interested in a "proper" dial, I'd recommend the Griffin PowerMate. You can get that plus a decent keyboard for less than the price of a Logitech Craft.
(DIR) Post #672270 by Anke@tootplanet.space
2018-10-21T11:41:51Z
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@fribbledom Thanks a lot!
(DIR) Post #672764 by James@linuxrocks.online
2018-10-21T12:26:51Z
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@fribbledom Bild ^ appears twice once on the number 9, and secondly on the number 3 keys! :)