Post 433739 by tkturney@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #322849 by 505e06b2@qoto.org
2018-10-01T22:37:33Z
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Sup boys 👌
(DIR) Post #322850 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-02T02:23:19Z
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@505e06b2 Hey, not much, you?
(DIR) Post #324863 by 505e06b2@qoto.org
2018-10-02T06:43:53Z
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@freemo Just woke up; definitely not ready for the classes I have today: OOP just doesn't agree with me
(DIR) Post #328613 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-02T13:20:29Z
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@505e06b2 Not everyone is a fan of OOP. How ya feel about Haskell or C?
(DIR) Post #329788 by 505e06b2@qoto.org
2018-10-02T15:00:44Z
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@freemo I adore C, dude: it's literally everything I need it to be; portable, low enough abstraction, and with a standard library I can actually remember!
(DIR) Post #330879 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-02T16:37:26Z
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@505e06b2 You arent the only one who feels that way, lots of people love C. Me personally, I like C, it has its place, but I also see where OOP makes sense. The right tool for the job I always say.
(DIR) Post #336721 by 505e06b2@qoto.org
2018-10-02T22:53:14Z
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@freemo That's what it comes down to in the end, huh? C has its place, but sometimes you just need a quick script, or to express an idea without needing to think how it's all laid out in memory. Anyways, I'm sure I'll appreciate OOP more as I work on more projects with other people
(DIR) Post #337852 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-03T00:04:39Z
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@505e06b2 Yea I think most coders oppose every new paradigm they get introduced to, at least until they love it :)
(DIR) Post #337998 by 505e06b2@qoto.org
2018-10-03T00:18:36Z
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@freemo yeah, you're probably right, although I've known OOP for a lot longer than I have C... Maybe I just visualise problems like a computer would; where as OOP is for people
(DIR) Post #338026 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-03T00:20:00Z
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@505e06b2 You would know why better than ma. I do know a lot of people who never dig OOP. Maybe you are one of them.
(DIR) Post #423749 by tkturney@qoto.org
2018-10-08T02:07:17Z
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@505e06b2C will always have its place. Python will give you the tools to change the oil, but C gives you the tools to do a full rebuild. OOP has had quite the heyday, but people are starting to realize that one can't model the world in *those* simplistic terms. We get closer with each iteration... @freemo
(DIR) Post #425098 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-08T04:31:20Z
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@tkturney Not sure I entierly agree. Most things we develop from day to day are completely unreasonable to do in C. sure its possible but its a really bad choice for many types of tasks@505e06b2
(DIR) Post #430453 by tkturney@qoto.org
2018-10-08T14:25:48Z
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@freemoI totally agree with you. I got my OOP "A-ha" moment while learning Smalltalk. (If you want to force a mental paradigm shift to OOP, I would strongly suggest checking that out everything but the OS primitives are written in Smalltalk. It would probably break your mind to try to write procedural code there.) I just think that, as we try to model more complex things, the pillars of OOP get kind of wiggly, and we have to jump through more hoops to stay "pure" @505e06b2
(DIR) Post #431504 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-08T15:49:09Z
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@tkturney One comment. OOP is never about modeling the real world with objects. It is about grouping closely related methods within a self-contained scope. Basically its more about modularity than mirroring real world objects. @505e06b2
(DIR) Post #433739 by tkturney@qoto.org
2018-10-08T18:44:32Z
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@freemoAgreed. Convincing upper management of that is the challenge. The struggle is real. @505e06b2
(DIR) Post #435129 by freemo@qoto.org
2018-10-08T20:18:50Z
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@tkturney Upper management and even lower management is usually clueless to this sort of stuff.@505e06b2