Post 392280 by ella_kane@hackers.town
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(DIR) Post #392209 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-06T03:44:00Z
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Alright netizens and Cyberpunks... hackers, crackers, players, and pretenders... It's that time of year when hoodies are actually appropriate outerwear (in the northern hemisphere). While I have an issue with the image of hackers in hoodies, I have had multiple requests for a hackers.town hoodie.You know who you are.Here it is:https://www.customink.com/fundraising/fund-hackerstownWe have hit our threshold, and this order is happening. Get on the train before it leaves the station.
(DIR) Post #392226 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-10-06T03:46:30Z
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@thegibson Nooooo, I don't wanna miss the train, but I don't have the money for the ticket, yet!Waaaaiiit! D:*runs after the train in the tracks*
(DIR) Post #392240 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-06T03:48:01Z
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@ella_kane
(DIR) Post #392280 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-10-06T03:48:48Z
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@thegibson *breathes*I was startled!
(DIR) Post #392685 by tek@freeradical.zone
2018-10-06T04:39:42Z
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@TheGibson Who made your awesome logo?
(DIR) Post #392837 by remotenemesis@hackers.town
2018-10-06T04:56:50Z
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@thegibsonHah. I used this exact image as my avatar for some day gig tools.@ella_kane
(DIR) Post #395673 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-06T11:53:11Z
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@tek @_cr0_tab
(DIR) Post #398351 by tek@freeradical.zone
2018-10-06T15:38:27Z
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@TheGibson Right on. @_cr0_tab Oh hey buddy! You’re looking well today!
(DIR) Post #414627 by fidgety@hackers.town
2018-10-07T15:29:23Z
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@thegibsonWhy do you have a problem with hackers in hoodies?I'm not a hacker. I'm a shell of a human being. Is that acceptable?
(DIR) Post #414645 by djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology
2018-10-07T15:30:45Z
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@fidgety @TheGibson I'm more a reverse shell of a human being
(DIR) Post #414876 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-07T15:56:31Z
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@fidgety watch anytime the media talks about cyber criminals as hackers, there is likely graphic of someone at a keyboard in a black hoodie.
(DIR) Post #414922 by garrett@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:00:36Z
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@thegibson @fidgety to be completely honest, my office is cold and usually I am sitting at my keyboard in a black hoodie.
(DIR) Post #414937 by fidgety@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:01:40Z
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@thegibsonYes. Even cyber criminals get cold.
(DIR) Post #414943 by fidgety@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:02:06Z
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@garrettBeat me to it!@thegibson
(DIR) Post #414963 by garrett@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:03:57Z
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@fidgety @thegibson this is the hoodie I usually wear https://store.hackersforcharity.org/hackers_for_charity/shop/product-detail/1005576
(DIR) Post #415001 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:06:04Z
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@fidgety it's the image the media portrays I have a problem with... not hoodies themselves.
(DIR) Post #415013 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:07:15Z
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@garrett @fidgety saw plenty of their gear this weekend... but at 90f in October, all tshirts.
(DIR) Post #415024 by rook@hulvr.com
2018-10-07T16:08:49Z
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@thegibson @fidgety I'm personally ok with hoodies as hacker-chic, even if the portrayal is exaggerated. They do fit in with the computing/streets conjunction. Like a manifest element of the adventures in old cDc text files. Reminds me of days gone by, and deeds done.But I get the other end of it, the media end, is just fetishization. The divide between these two gives me weird feelings.
(DIR) Post #415038 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:09:39Z
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@garrett @fidgety I used to have this awesome wired hoodie, but it has disappeared to the sands of time.I have a NASA hoodie I like now.
(DIR) Post #415055 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-07T16:10:07Z
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@rook @fidgety same.
(DIR) Post #424004 by remotenemesis@hackers.town
2018-10-08T02:27:31Z
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@rookIt's cold at $daygig.@thegibson @fidgety
(DIR) Post #424021 by rook@hulvr.com
2018-10-08T02:30:52Z
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@remotenemesis I did leave off mentioning that I wear a hoodie at nearly all times while awake. Good for heat regulation.@thegibson @fidgety
(DIR) Post #424024 by rook@hulvr.com
2018-10-08T02:31:17Z
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@remotenemesis I did leave out mentioning that I wear a hoodie at nearly all times while awake. Good for heat regulation.@thegibson @fidgety
(DIR) Post #455539 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-09T23:43:09Z
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@TheGibsonUntil this hoodie ships I will never have owned, much less worn a hoodie. When I was at my grayest of hats I wore a trenchcoat.@garrett @fidgety
(DIR) Post #456726 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T01:04:58Z
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@_cr0_tab @garrett @fidgety I'm not a big hoodie guy either ...This for everybody else... I'll get one, but not really my jam.
(DIR) Post #456873 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-10-10T01:14:44Z
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@thegibson @_cr0_tab @garrett @fidgety it has a zipper.Think of it like a jacket with a optional protection feature for your head. :3
(DIR) Post #456899 by remotenemesis@hackers.town
2018-10-10T01:17:59Z
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@ella_kaneWasnt a fan until I moved to the Bay Area. Perfect for the mild winters here and surviving chilly silicon valley offices of course @thegibson @_cr0_tab @garrett @fidgety
(DIR) Post #457062 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-10-10T01:30:43Z
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@remotenemesis @thegibson @_cr0_tab @garrett @fidgety we're getting near chilly season here, where I usually wear a tee and carry a hoodie with me for when the temp drops.I became a fan of hoodies when I was still in high-school.It's the easiest to wear + less thought involved. Just: pants, tee, hoodie. Need an extra layer? Add a sweatshirt. It's cold freezing outside? A kispo on top. Done!
(DIR) Post #463555 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T12:26:24Z
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@thegibson what's this logo?what does it means?do you ship in Italy?
(DIR) Post #463778 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T12:41:51Z
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@Shamar this is one of the logos @_cr0_tab made for our funding drive a week ago.Be the rust upon their gears is a mechanical allegory for resisting oppressive enemies.They do ship to Europe, although I believe there is an upcharge.
(DIR) Post #463842 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T12:45:51Z
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@thegibson @_cr0_tab I was asking the meaning of the image. I liked it a lot.I think #hackers should find an international alternative (or many alternatives) to the #glinder as to many (me included) it is inesorabily linked to #ESR American imperialism.
(DIR) Post #463889 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T12:48:50Z
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@Shamar @_cr0_tab No disagreements.The image is just a circuit diagram that is meant to invoke occult symbology as we are effectively the wizards of the modern age.It is meant to hold the same mental space as a Masonic square and compass, or the hermetic Unicursal Hexagram.
(DIR) Post #463941 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T12:52:38Z
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@TheGibsonAnd here I thought it was a locust@Shamar
(DIR) Post #463975 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T12:56:49Z
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@_cr0_tab @Shamar It is what you see within it.
(DIR) Post #464006 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T13:01:33Z
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@TheGibson @Shamar @_cr0_tab I do like that symbol! The wizardry motif is appropriate.And I hadn't thought of the glider in that way. :thaenkin:
(DIR) Post #464015 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T13:03:16Z
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@thegibson Art goes beyond the artists.But it never renegates them.If @_cr0_tab see a locust, there is a locust there.But such locust means more than a locust.
(DIR) Post #464023 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T12:59:29Z
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@_cr0_tab @thegibson I need time to think about this.I REALLY LIKE IT.But compared to the Masonic square and compass (an appropriate comparison, IMHO: during middle ages, masonry was VERY similar to what hackerdom is today) it lacks something.The square and compass were two fundamental tools of the building design.They were physical tools to turn ideas into things.We need something like that.What do #hackers WORLDWIDE use to turn ideas into the real world?
(DIR) Post #464024 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T13:03:21Z
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@Shamar @_cr0_tab Right.A circuit design that was non-descript, to me represented both this esoterics as well as build something from nothing.Void engineers if you will.
(DIR) Post #464036 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T13:05:21Z
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@Shamar @_cr0_tab So very true.It's hard to do the Masonic route here, as the tools are often frameworks combined with our minds...No physical tools are appropriate...So abstract was the last option.
(DIR) Post #464133 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T13:17:00Z
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@uranther @thegibson @_cr0_tab The first value of #hackers' #ethics is #Curiosity.It's also their favorite and fundamental tool.Curiosity spawns other tools: #IntellectualHonesty, #Creativity, #Condivision and #Freedom.Tools that are core values too, even if functional to curiosity, to the desire to #learn.We hack everything: from physical artifacts to math definitions.We span continents and religions always serving humanity.How can we express this?I'd like to be #DaVinci.
(DIR) Post #464160 by feonixrift@x0r.be
2018-10-10T13:20:37Z
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@TheGibson @Shamar @_cr0_tab The wire itself visible but its two driving forces unseen, as what we manipulate is unseen - physical components, and electrical signal.Six feet if two wings; one of many, hence locusts. Arising unanticipated in overwhelming numbers though each is small.Disconnection defining secrecy. The body is a space between traces, the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing.Existing within an order transcended - the hexagon, ideal packing of 2d space.
(DIR) Post #464219 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T13:25:19Z
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@feonixrift @Shamar @_cr0_tab I am of a very diverse occult background, as @feonixrift knows.Good read, but I can't consciously take credit for all of that. I'm just glad that the universe brought me symbology that elicits discussion on this front.Because it is as important as the systems we design, tear down, or build.We'll never fully unify, but we may be able to create a banner for our beliefs and ethos.
(DIR) Post #464296 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T13:31:24Z
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@Shamar @TheGibson @_cr0_tab In high school, I was always fascinated by the hypercube. :blobshrug: The Vitruvian Man seems appropriate because to me it represents something that is mostly lost in the modern world: the Renaissance Man.As Robert A. Heinlein says, "specialization is for insects."
(DIR) Post #464389 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T13:37:30Z
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@thegibson @feonixrift @_cr0_tab @uranther I'm not sure #hackers can ever divide. We can disagree for a while, but ultimately we strive for #truth, for #knowledge, not for #power.Our ultimate goal, learning more, simply make wars and even hate or envy not just pointless, but counterproductive.Thus we do not need to unify.Probably what you mean is that we will never be #uniform.We do not fear differences, as they are always chances to learn.
(DIR) Post #464394 by feonixrift@x0r.be
2018-10-10T13:35:27Z
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@TheGibson @Shamar @_cr0_tab Just playing around with it. ;)
(DIR) Post #464473 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T13:43:52Z
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@Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab @uranther We must be stateless for this to be the reality.
(DIR) Post #464489 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T13:44:44Z
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@Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab @uranther Your English is better than mine. :)
(DIR) Post #464527 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T13:47:17Z
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@thegibson @feonixrift @_cr0_tab @uranther We must be #human for this to be reality.
(DIR) Post #465090 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T13:45:24Z
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@_cr0_tab @uranther Building on the @feonixrift interpretation, I also see two persons shoulders to shoulders.The orizontal lines could be tables. Or chains that vinculate them to live and work together.But as much as I like it (did I said that I like this a lot?) there is still something missing... I do not know... I think the @thegibson insight about masonry point into the right direction, but I cannot still see where... WHICH ARE OUR CORE TOOLS REALLY? I won't sleep tonight...
(DIR) Post #465091 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T14:30:29Z
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@Shamar @_cr0_tab @uranther @feonixrift Let us know what you come up with.
(DIR) Post #465187 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T14:21:57Z
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I decided to illustrate the orbital diagram of the Silicon Atoms electrons. @Shamar @TheGibson @feonixrift @uranther
(DIR) Post #465191 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T14:38:16Z
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@_cr0_tab @Shamar @TheGibson @feonixrift #SacredGeometry
(DIR) Post #465283 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T14:44:56Z
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@Shamar @TheGibson @_cr0_tab #hypercube #tesseract
(DIR) Post #465307 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T14:46:57Z
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@_cr0_tab @Shamar @feonixrift @uranther The lines connecting the electrons in the outer shell need to be in the base layer for the initiate, then in top layer for the ascended hackers.
(DIR) Post #465359 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T14:52:13Z
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@Shamar @TheGibson @_cr0_tab In six dimensions it's a #hexeract or 6-demicube.
(DIR) Post #466430 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T15:52:24Z
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My brain went all art deco on me, dunno why. Gonna take a break and regroup.@TheGibson @Shamar @uranther @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #466496 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T15:53:29Z
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@_cr0_tab @Shamar @uranther @feonixrift Art deco is perfect.
(DIR) Post #466674 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T16:01:54Z
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@thegibson @_cr0_tab @uranther @feonixrift Beautiful.I didn't like the Tao because Silicium is much more Yin than Yang. It insulate Copper and thus the stream of information flowing in it. But it also structure such flow.Also, the reference to a specific culture/religion (or worse to a syncretic reduction of it) was out of place into something that is inheritely international, intercultural.Now, on one hand, this is rich, variegate, as our cultures and feelings. And this is great! 1/
(DIR) Post #467434 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T16:09:04Z
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@thegibson @uranther @feonixrift But (sorry @_cr0_tab I'm exploiting your kindness, but I care about symbols) on the other hand, it's complex.My own insight (is this my biased culture at work?) is that "simplex sigillum veri", that simplicity is the sign of truth, the ultimate proof of correctness. Occalm razor's output, so to say.The truth we are looking for, as curious people, is the simplest possible one.
(DIR) Post #467435 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T16:44:28Z
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@Shamar @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab I agree, it is why I prefer simple symbol...But that is a work of art
(DIR) Post #467487 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T16:47:57Z
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@Shamar @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab Are founding some sort of mythology here?I feel like we are.
(DIR) Post #467507 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T16:48:13Z
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@thegibson @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab I'm unable to dress myself you can image how I can talk about design.But I was wondering: what if those electrons were stars?Dots in a simple dark blue.Stars of several different colors, like the wonderful sky I saw in Kenya's desert... years ago.
(DIR) Post #467540 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T16:49:21Z
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@Shamar @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab Pleiades come to mind.
(DIR) Post #467557 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T16:50:41Z
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@thegibson @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab No, I think we are just hacking.I think we are hacking a symbol to take back our culture.
(DIR) Post #467605 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T16:56:27Z
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@TheGibsonFundamentally I do not believe in beginnings or endings.Nothing is complex, because all complexity is combination and iteration on simple forms. Nothing is simple because nothing is independent, they all arise conditionally from the chaos of history.There is no center, no eternal self, no shelter or foundation on which to restgate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha@Shamar @uranther @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #467626 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T16:57:53Z
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@Shamar @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab I think that's how this starts.
(DIR) Post #467654 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T16:20:08Z
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I must break for lunch, but I think you'll grok where my mind is going.@Shamar @TheGibson @uranther @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #467655 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T16:59:06Z
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@_cr0_tab @Shamar @uranther @feonixrift It also covers the totemic requirements cardinal directions and center being balanced
(DIR) Post #467716 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T17:02:08Z
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@thegibson @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab What if the stars were the perfect symbol?Aren't we all looking at the stars?While people are concerned with money, power, sex... we stare, amused, to the stars.What if curiosity was the force that make us, hacker all over the world, to stare at stars?
(DIR) Post #468122 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T17:16:19Z
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@thegibson @uranther @feonixrift @_cr0_tab
(DIR) Post #468123 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T17:27:33Z
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@Shamar @TheGibson @feonixrift @_cr0_tab The Pleides cluster reminds me of the #Antikythera device, another possible symbol of #hackerdom, being the first known analog computer.
(DIR) Post #468140 by feonixrift@x0r.be
2018-10-10T17:23:45Z
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@_cr0_tabThis is where I always get tripped up. Because exactly, due to non-commutativity of the (finite) alphabets of {logic, proteins, elements, ...}.Yet we have an alphabet that is commutative and infinite - the primes. But throw those in repetitive patterns of adding and multiplying and go up to exponentiation, and non-commutative behavior reappears.(So I end up hacking numbers instead of computers.)@TheGibson @Shamar @uranther
(DIR) Post #468296 by fidgety@hackers.town
2018-10-10T17:38:59Z
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@urantherPlus, it kind of looks like it has an X-Men symbol, which is appropriate given our love of Nightcrawler and Colossus. @Shamar @thegibson @feonixrift @_cr0_tab
(DIR) Post #468575 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T18:06:16Z
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@uranther @Shamar @thegibson @feonixrift @_cr0_tab I don't think it's accurate to describe the Antikythera Device as "the first known analog computer". It is indeed an analog computer (which is itself a misleading term), but we also know about sand tables, clepsydras, astrolabes, planispheres, 浑象 or armillary spheres, and so on, which all predate it.
(DIR) Post #468604 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T18:08:40Z
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@kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab It is, however, more mysterious than the others, and presents a challenge from the ancients to us in the modern day.In some ways, the very definition of occult.
(DIR) Post #468673 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T18:12:38Z
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@thegibson @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab Oh, yeah, I definitely don't mean to disrespect the Antikythera Mechanism. It's a masterpiece, and I agree that there are still aspects of it that aren't fully understood.
(DIR) Post #469028 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T18:35:23Z
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@TheGibson Okay! Got it! Now you just have to figure out how to put a GIF on a t--shirt. (Not mine art, source: http://rekall.me/post/178208707423 )@kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #469816 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T19:05:57Z
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@TheGibson My serious attempt @kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #469817 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T19:29:39Z
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@_cr0_tab @kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift You are very good.
(DIR) Post #469829 by thegibson@hackers.town
2018-10-10T19:30:11Z
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@_cr0_tab @kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift Is that a challenge?
(DIR) Post #470841 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T20:32:04Z
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@TheGibson yes@kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #471172 by rook@hulvr.com
2018-10-10T20:43:42Z
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@_cr0_tab @thegibson @kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift gaddang the train don't stop
(DIR) Post #471771 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T18:15:03Z
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@thegibson @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab I just don't think we should give short shrift to the rich history of analog computational devices that preceded it.
(DIR) Post #471772 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T21:21:59Z
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@kragen OK but it was a pretty clever hack :blobwink: @TheGibson @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab
(DIR) Post #471872 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T21:28:17Z
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@uranther @thegibson @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab Yeah, I sure wish I could talk to the folks that made it. Have you been watching the Clickspring series?
(DIR) Post #471892 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T21:29:43Z
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@kragen Haven't heard of it. I'll check it out!
(DIR) Post #471935 by uranther@cybre.space
2018-10-10T21:31:35Z
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@kragen Oh this is my jam! I like #horology.
(DIR) Post #471939 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T21:31:39Z
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@uranther @thegibson @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2 and supplementally https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsGnUXuZScwn6Ackf6LGILCa are the Clickspring videos on the Antikythera Mechanism. Tatyana Van Vark has also made a reproduction, but she's less talkative.
(DIR) Post #471940 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T21:32:11Z
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@uranther @thegibson @Shamar @feonixrift @_cr0_tab Tatjana, sorry.
(DIR) Post #472116 by _cr0_tab@freeradical.zone
2018-10-10T21:41:58Z
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This is a really really rough draft ( i took some obvious shortcuts that look bad) of I thought I'm having@rook @TheGibson @kragen @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift
(DIR) Post #472117 by kragen@nerdculture.de
2018-10-10T21:42:46Z
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@_cr0_tab @rook @thegibson @uranther @Shamar @feonixrift I like it!
(DIR) Post #472445 by Shamar@mastodon.social
2018-10-10T22:00:18Z
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@kragen @_cr0_tab @rook @thegibson @uranther @feonixrift What about using a prime number of colors? Too geek?Actually 2 is prime... I need to sleep 🤣 So far I liked most:- the simplicity of the locust a lot- the idea of Silicium electron from the second- the colors of the third- the idea of the stars (I know it's just in my mind... but it rocks!)