Post 366148 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
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(DIR) Post #366030 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T17:55:14Z
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the religious people in my family are convinced that the decline of christianity in america means the end is coming soon. they can't see that an institutional religion so obviously filled with internal contradiction has nothing to offer people evangelicalism wants the development of history to end in 1950. that is why it will die
(DIR) Post #366036 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T17:55:42Z
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@thatcosmonaut 1850, actually
(DIR) Post #366080 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T17:58:02Z
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@gayhobbes nah they love postwar capitalism, I'd say that is essentially the basis of that religious culture
(DIR) Post #366096 by gayhobbes@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T17:58:36Z
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@thatcosmonaut yeah there's the postwar part of it but their take on the family is pure pre-Victorian shit
(DIR) Post #366148 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:01:22Z
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@gayhobbes i guess there is that whole weird pathological obsession with sexual purity
(DIR) Post #366264 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:09:12Z
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@thatcosmonaut could probably get a revival when the US goes full berserker fascist.
(DIR) Post #366323 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:12:24Z
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@RedCeres i'd believe that if the younger right wingers were converting to evangelicalism in any serious way, but they're not. just the rotting husk of a religion that is no longer required by the larger ideology
(DIR) Post #366412 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:20:01Z
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@thatcosmonaut It forms too much of the cultural background of the right wing to disappear entirely I think. An overtly fascist state that does pick sides could easily use that strength to force a resurgence.
(DIR) Post #366451 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:23:19Z
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@RedCeres yea i just feel like by that point it will have morphed into something functionally different from the cultural pearl clutching evangelicalism we all know and love
(DIR) Post #366463 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:24:20Z
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@thatcosmonaut oh I view evangelical christianity through a much bloodier lens than that lol.
(DIR) Post #366482 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:26:50Z
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@RedCeres oh you mean in terms of it as a settler colonial religion, that manifests itself as contemporary support for israel. yea i think that's a valid point
(DIR) Post #366511 by RedCeres@knzk.me
2018-10-04T18:29:45Z
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@thatcosmonaut yeah that's more my view of it.
(DIR) Post #368104 by saladmonster@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T20:37:08Z
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@thatcosmonaut i think the lessening popularity of christianity amongst the youths and the population at large is really interesting and i have my own pet theories, of course. haven't talk to too many other people about it tbh.
(DIR) Post #368241 by saladmonster@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T20:45:20Z
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@thatcosmonaut like i think 'mission trips' have absolutely lost their appeal (rightfully so, damn colonizers). i remember being in church as a kid and they were funding missionaries in Alaska??? And Austria??????? i think people started seeing how transparent it is and grew a distake for that versus helping out in the local community
(DIR) Post #368242 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T20:48:28Z
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@saladmonster it was probably easier to justify in a time when abject poverty wasnt literally everywhere but our society fucked that one up big time
(DIR) Post #368351 by saladmonster@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T20:56:05Z
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@thatcosmonaut i'd also say modern american evangelism is mired deep in 'fear'. fear of women, fear of lgbtq, fear of hell, fear of persecution (in a christian majority nation???) and just... people got tired of being afraid instead of curious. we have enough anxieties as it is.
(DIR) Post #368371 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T20:57:34Z
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@saladmonster also if you step outside the bubble for one second you realize how ridiculous all the fear is. and that kind of paranoid culture isnt going to have appeal for people who werent raised in it or dont have seriously reactionary viewpoints already
(DIR) Post #368399 by saladmonster@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T20:59:53Z
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@thatcosmonaut i was absolutely convinced that when i went to college i'd be getting jeered at and forced to stand in lectures and profess faith and such. it... didn't happen. not once. if anything people were curious and wanted to know more. i had great talks with my orthodox jewish room mate late at night over lots of tea. the idea that 'the world is out to get you' is so, so, so toxic and controlling.
(DIR) Post #368452 by thatcosmonaut@knzk.me
2018-10-04T21:04:55Z
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@saladmonster what i thought would happen in school: godless liberal brainwashingwhat actually happened: literally nobody gave a shit what i believed and i took religious studies classes where people who were not religious read the bible and took it seriously. also i became a marxist because my roommate read capital vol 1 our senior year so maybe they were right lol!!!!!
(DIR) Post #368474 by saladmonster@mastodon.social
2018-10-04T21:07:21Z
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@thatcosmonaut def became a liberal shithead but it's less 'college' as i get older and more 'the world is burning and socialism is the best way for me and my community to survive'