Post 3567632 by craigmaloney@octodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #3565340 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T22:53:36Z
       
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       Google is shutting down Google Plus in just a couple of months from now.  https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9195133In the meanwhile I know of people desperately trying to pull their G+ data out of Google Takeout and it isn't working.I feel like the lessons of this speak for themselves?
       
 (DIR) Post #3565341 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T22:58:08Z
       
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       Lots of people weren't around for when the fediverse was at its first peak at around 2010-2011.  Google Plus swept in and plenty of people quit the fediverse saying "Google will do a better job keeping this running than independent sites can."  For this and some other reasons, for some time the fediverse was a ghost town.Let's not forget that next time.
       
 (DIR) Post #3566194 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T23:00:57Z
       
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       I'm not saying the fediverse does a great job of keeping things going.  Actually we do a pretty awful job, plenty of nodes go down, and a lot of my research right now is how content can survive servers disappearing.But at least a good portion of that is within the control of people, rather than just one mega-entity.
       
 (DIR) Post #3567632 by craigmaloney@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T23:24:33Z
       
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       @cwebber Preach it!
       
 (DIR) Post #3567964 by tiden@blimps.xyz
       2019-01-30T22:58:50Z
       
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       @cwebber The fediverse peaked before mastodon?
       
 (DIR) Post #3567965 by craigmaloney@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T23:28:13Z
       
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       @tiden @cwebber Identi.ca was the flagship instance of the fediverse back then. We had our "how do I find people" moment when folks like Gina Trapani and Robert Scoble walked the earth. WE had our moment when Steve Gillmor gathered Twitter, Identica and the known microblogging universe together to talk about the firehose of data that was created.And we blew it.
       
 (DIR) Post #3567966 by cwebber@octodon.social
       2019-01-30T23:55:57Z
       
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       @craigmaloney @tiden Yeah.  Though...We didn't *totally* blow it.  The fediverse did survive, and even now is having a massive comeback :)Definitely lessons from that era though, especially about putting too much reliance on one person or one company... even when such an entity means all the best, is doing great work, and trying their damndest!!