Post 3465662 by _@voxcry.pt
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 (DIR) Post #3465434 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T12:41:49Z
       
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       Please donate if you can. Temperatures in Chicago are going to be as low as NEGATIVE SIXTY DEGREES FARENHEIT (yes, you read that right, -60°F). Please help fund tickets for those who are without shelter to ride CTA and hopefully survive these temperatures. This is from my Twitter friend who is active in Chicago leftist action.PayPal link: https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/8bH90a8kFTTweet:https://mobile.twitter.com/wegotthephunk/status/1089605293728772096?s=12
       
 (DIR) Post #3465650 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T12:45:00Z
       
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       People will die from the State's complete disregard for human life when it doesn't make them money.
       
 (DIR) Post #3465651 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T12:53:27Z
       
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       I hope churches at least open their doors this week for people. God.
       
 (DIR) Post #3465652 by CornishRepublicanArmy@witches.live
       2019-01-28T12:55:03Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind people on the radical left attack churches a lot as instruments of reaction, and while they're not wtong the position of churches as community centres and places that try to help is really important in a lot of places
       
 (DIR) Post #3465662 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:00:57Z
       
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       @CornishRepublicanArmy @bewitchyourmind Yeah but the only way they become that is because everyone donates to them and expects them to and turns to them. If we got rid of churches people would just put that money into homeless shelters and other nonprofits that don't put any money towards gay conversion therapy. We should have community centers that aren't religious, because while yes the churches will end up helping lots of people during this kind of situation, they might refuse to help trans or gay youth, especially if they're also of color.
       
 (DIR) Post #3465822 by CornishRepublicanArmy@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:06:41Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind @_ that's not entirely wrong, but, attacking the institutions of faith on their own push people *towards* those shitty takes. Secularism comes from the abandonment of the church on their own, but then we dig into a whole rabbithole of Marxism
       
 (DIR) Post #3465840 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:07:11Z
       
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       @_ @CornishRepublicanArmy Sure, I agree with all that, but the fact of the matter is this is happening this week and what we do have are churches and public transit to maybe let the people who dont have shelter or cant fit into current shelters have a place to sleep and be warm enough not to literally die on the streets.
       
 (DIR) Post #3465888 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:08:37Z
       
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       @CornishRepublicanArmy I don't think abandoning churches digs any whole into marxism but :s
       
 (DIR) Post #3465932 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:09:56Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind ... Yeah no I wasn't saying this wasn't or that we should like, destroy all the churches in the entire area today right as this crisis happens,, :s
       
 (DIR) Post #3465979 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:11:23Z
       
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       @_ yeah any of my perceived support of churches would only be in context to this situation in chicago rn, other than that fuck them.
       
 (DIR) Post #3466192 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:18:31Z
       
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       @_ @CornishRepublicanArmy I think, to be fair, there is a different perspective on churches in America versus the UK. In America we have far more evangelical and far far dissociated from the run of the mill one in, say, England or Ireland.
       
 (DIR) Post #3466408 by bewitchyourmind@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:20:25Z
       
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       @_ @CornishRepublicanArmy I grew up going to batshit crazy evangelical ones that straight up brainwash children, esp queer children like me. So I completely understand Vi's discomfort
       
 (DIR) Post #3466409 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:26:16Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind @CornishRepublicanArmy thank you,, ❤️
       
 (DIR) Post #3467078 by CornishRepublicanArmy@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:46:57Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind @_ i mean, don't get me wrong I'm a gay trans woman who's a Marxist. Stan the church I do not. But, it's important to see these institutions for what they wholey are than just evil or amazing
       
 (DIR) Post #3467112 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:48:30Z
       
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       @CornishRepublicanArmy @bewitchyourmind The church and capitalism are linked and intertwined, the pros of a system do not justify the hurt and bigotry they create
       
 (DIR) Post #3467208 by CornishRepublicanArmy@witches.live
       2019-01-28T13:51:42Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind @_ mmm, it's more complex than that. The current church is linked to capital, as are all power structures that feed into the state and the status quo, but 'The Church' and faith are merely expressions of the community. The doctrine of the church was once set by the clergy, who were of course part of the state, and that lineage continues but its not like the state controls faith and community
       
 (DIR) Post #3467291 by _@voxcry.pt
       2019-01-28T13:54:18Z
       
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       @CornishRepublicanArmy @bewitchyourmind I guess there's not much I can say in response to that other than I disagree entirely with your idea of what churches and faith are.I believe Christianity has only ever been to give power to older white men, to control the populace and to make money.
       
 (DIR) Post #3547561 by ehashman@toot.cat
       2019-01-30T13:26:50Z
       
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       @bewitchyourmind @kittybecca donated. They're almost at 5k!