Post 3114837 by bird@nulled.red
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(DIR) Post #3114808 by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T20:52:25Z
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What bothers me is how bad the headline is. Most people who come across an article only read the headline. Don't think it will do the fediverse any good.
(DIR) Post #3114837 by bird@nulled.red
2019-01-18T20:53:40Z
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@Gargron get ready to crumble
(DIR) Post #3114879 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-01-18T20:54:57.106882Z
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@Gargron I mean, it's pretty much par for the course for any tech journalism covering the decentralized social web. The metrics of success are viewed through the lens of how corporate networks succeed, and provide a narrative that a minor entity must dethrone a corporate giant to even be considered a viable alternative at all.I'm often annoyed that the people who write these articles barely even use the platforms beyond the most basic cursory investigation.
(DIR) Post #3114906 by Mateo@eventideparlour.masto.host
2019-01-18T20:53:42Z
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@Gargron The headline is *incredibly* clickbait-y and I'm sure DD knew it before putting it live.
(DIR) Post #3114935 by ChrisWere@linuxrocks.online
2019-01-18T20:55:56Z
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@Gargron I can see how that sucks, especially on a personal note for yourself.On the other hand, few things unite the #Fediverse more than a "Mastodon is dead" wannabe BuzzFeed article.
(DIR) Post #3114993 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-01-18T20:57:22.766803Z
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@ChrisWere @Gargron This is true, to a point. Even people that don't necessarily like Mastodon will still point out that these articles jump to inappropriate conclusions about the fediverse's own health and success. Nevermind the fact that it's consistently active and growing all the time.
(DIR) Post #3115066 by rw@shitposter.club
2019-01-18T20:58:20.870862Z
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@chriswere @gargron True. Only I'm allowed to talk shit about protocols on the decentralized web - get these tech journalists out of here
(DIR) Post #3115098 by ChrisWere@linuxrocks.online
2019-01-18T20:59:40Z
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@sean @Gargron Absolutely. There have been some dynamite posts from Pleroma instances on the topic.
(DIR) Post #3115184 by LWFlouisa@leftlibertarian.club
2019-01-18T21:01:10.640354Z
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@sean @ChrisWere @Gargron I'm no fan of Mastodon, but the article felt kind of ... sorely lacking.My issues with Mastodon have always been structural. The politics is a non-issue. At least there are diverse viewpoints.
(DIR) Post #3115193 by moonman@shitposter.club
2019-01-18T21:01:05.688523Z
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@sean this is kind of different though, its basically an interview with somebody that seems to hold a grudge against Eugen for not merging their shitty modal welcome and abusing their git privileges.
(DIR) Post #3115235 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-01-18T21:02:52.410738Z
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@moonman In this case, the article seemed to just patch together the worst of Masto fedi drama from over a year ago to argue the case that the network as a whole is failing and falling apart.Never forget that these outlets are fine with confusing a project with the entire network that they're attached to
(DIR) Post #3115253 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T21:02:53Z
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@Gargron @ChrisWere @sean the article is half-decent, if perhaps rehashing old drama and viewing it through a lens divorced of context. the headline is so bad that it doesn't even match the article's thesis. it's extremely hyperbolic.
(DIR) Post #3115352 by amylsacks@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T21:02:02Z
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@Gargron Hey, if you feel bad about this maltreatment and factual distortion, I hope you'll apply that lesson the next time you start to wade into U.S. Pol w/cheap anti- 3rd-party takes which always sound lifted straight from some dump like Vox or NPR. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #3115362 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T21:05:29Z
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@Gargron @ChrisWere @sean also the first paragraph is terrible intro material -- as a queer poc the *last* thing i wanna do is discuss the us political theatre endlessly. there is truth to my existence being political, but why should i be perform to their standard of politics? how are my struggles any less "real" simply because i prefer not to engage in the way they expect? us electoral pol is more of a sham than me talking about my life
(DIR) Post #3115375 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-01-18T21:06:13.729085Z
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@trwnh @ChrisWere @Gargron "In order to be better than Twitter, it has to be exactly like it, except in the abstract ways that we demand Twitter be better"
(DIR) Post #3115446 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T21:07:58Z
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@sean @Gargron @ChrisWere can i just add that the irony is not lost on me that the author is white and queer, while the article derides white queer gentrification of queer poc spaces? :thaenkin:
(DIR) Post #3115499 by sean@social.deadsuperhero.com
2019-01-18T21:08:54.617387Z
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@trwnh Or that it brought up someone's specific pronouns, and the article immediately moved to call that person by "they" instead? 😛
(DIR) Post #3115634 by trwnh@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T21:11:58Z
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@sean performative nonsense. it's the exact kind of shit that white liberals pull all the time -- "amplify voices, don't speak for people" should mean that you boost those people's works, not restate them poorly. there are plenty of valid criticisms to levy at mastodon or its development, but "the platform is crumbling" is not one of them. eugen has no say in how admins moderate their instances or cultivate their spaces. it's bigger than just masto and mastodev.
(DIR) Post #3115927 by alrs@lsngl.us
2019-01-18T21:20:05Z
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@Gargron "Narcissists and sociopaths usually choose those they are envious of and threatened by. " https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2018/03/the-narcissistic-conspiracy-scapegoating-smear-campaigns-and-black-sheep-how-narcissistic-groups-bully-their-chosen-victims/
(DIR) Post #3117729 by lnxw37d2@nulled.red
2019-01-18T22:07:55Z
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@sean @moonman In my experience and observation (family members are / were at newspapers), the press gets it wrong almost every time on almost any topic they cover.CC: @lnxw48a1
(DIR) Post #3130032 by calisti@chaos.social
2019-01-18T22:20:09Z
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@sean @GargronActually that's not the metrics applied in this article. The criticism is much rather that Gargron isn't much better than the Twitter board of directors, and Mastodon will thus not manage to stay a place that's better than Twitter.
(DIR) Post #3130033 by cabalamat@mastodon.technology
2019-01-19T06:12:02Z
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@calisti @sean @Gargron Then the criticism is nonsense; Mastodon is open source, and the fediverse is decentralised, making it impossible for @Gargron (or anyone else) to control it the way Twitter is controlled.
(DIR) Post #3130043 by calisti@chaos.social
2019-01-18T22:28:29Z
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@GargronDidn't see you respond to any of the criticism. Would you care to...
(DIR) Post #3130044 by Gargron@mastodon.social
2019-01-18T22:29:01Z
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@calisti I was literally interviewed for the article by the person who wrote it