Post 3102939 by charles@bitsof.tech
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(DIR) Post #3098873 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T11:48:22.681744Z
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anyone use awesomewm? trying it after years of i3wm and it's a bit stressful so far
(DIR) Post #3098874 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T12:05:36.902736Z
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@brad try herbstluftWM bruh. The name is g e r m a n
(DIR) Post #3098925 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:07:50.243898Z
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@igeljaeger I had a friend who got into that a few weeks ago. It's not packaged on guix or else I'd consider it.
(DIR) Post #3098926 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T12:09:05.066140Z
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@brad using anything except arch is a meme tbh2019-01-18-130835_455x195_scrot…
(DIR) Post #3099612 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:10:25.933342Z
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@igeljaeger I spent a lot of time on Arch but I've moved on to bigger and better things now. I was on Void for a bit also, but GuixSD felt like the future and I had to have it.
(DIR) Post #3099613 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:13:02.169215Z
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@igeljaeger You probably don't care, but I'll just link this to show off some of the cool stuff: https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html
(DIR) Post #3099697 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T12:37:53.664159Z
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@brad I can see what you mean. But this is on a level I'd be way too lazy to learn. Seems like a "breadless art" as we say in german.
(DIR) Post #3099834 by xeno@nomoresha.me
2019-01-18T12:43:54.316428Z
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@igeljaeger @brad in poland we just call that ketosis
(DIR) Post #3100163 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:41:04.194309Z
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@igeljaeger I've been on it for a year now and a lot of the stuff mentioned in that article is stuff I haven't properly grasped yet, but I figure if I just keep using it I'll probably learn more eventually. Better than not using it and never learning it. The biggest pain is just when something isn't packaged, because the weird setup means you can't always just download a binary and run it. A lot of basic system stuff is not in the normal place and they kind of expect you to turn everything into a package. I'm somewhere between beginner and intermediate so I have not written any packages yet myself.Arch is a very good distro, I thought I'd be on it forever until I started getting into the really autistic stuff. To name a few things, Arch has systemd and it has non-free packages. I went to Void and Parabola to avoid some of that stuff, but I'd also briefly tried NixOS, so when I heard about GuixSD I felt like giving it a go. NixOS is very similar in concept but it has systemd and is not one of the FSF-approved distros. GuixSD is also a GNU project, set to basically be *the* GNU distro, so that's pretty exciting even to someone inexperienced like me. Sorry for rambling.
(DIR) Post #3100165 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T12:57:45.078138Z
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@brad tbh this whole "free software" thing is mostly important to me due to privacy standards. If the non free parts dont infringe on my privacy I generally dont care much.
(DIR) Post #3100265 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:03:19.647549Z
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@igeljaeger @brad tbh free software is also good for other things... such as education and having an understanding how your OS works (unlike on winblows), which is really important to me... windows failed me too many times... also I want to be have the opportunity to fix bugs myself if I want to.... closed source software make that next to impossible... I would love if some old games from my child hood would release their source... so someone could port them to modern systems.therefore: JOIN US NOW AND SHARE THE SOFTWARE! https://www.jwz.org/hacks/rms-remix.mp3
(DIR) Post #3100297 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T13:04:32.922286Z
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@fence @brad I'm more of a casual user than you might think.
(DIR) Post #3100315 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:05:53.799335Z
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@igeljaeger @brad :akkoshrug: privacy for me is a byproduct of free software, but yeah everynyan is different
(DIR) Post #3100411 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T13:10:47.540613Z
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@fence @brad almost the entirety of my first year on linux was with KDE and xfce, which do a lot of stuff for you and offer a lot of GUI software to make you "not" have to learn the actual linux/unix stuff. Might as well just wouldve called myself a KDE user rather than a linux one 6 months ago tbh
(DIR) Post #3100488 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:13:54.332060Z
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@igeljaeger @brad thats good tbh! I personally don't consider XFCE a fully fledged DE but, this is great imo, because you don 't need to be a rocket engineer to use free software!the thing is my first contact with linux were servers... so I have different experience than you I guess.
(DIR) Post #3100592 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
2019-01-18T13:17:35.873898Z
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@fence @brad well yeah but the thing is tho that those people (like me) will always select "install non-free drivers" on their first installation of ubuntu or whatever. Dont wanna take any risks, esp when you want to play games like me (and also need to prove to naysayers somehow that linux isnt a religion)
(DIR) Post #3100806 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:29:26.106774Z
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@igeljaeger @brad > install non-free driversto me this isn't a big problem, people using 80% free software is still much better than just using windows and only google services.what exactly do you mean with risks?
(DIR) Post #3100888 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T13:32:10.950214Z
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@fence I agree that 80% free software is better than none or close to none, but I do still think non-free drivers matter. I replaced the wlan card in my ThinkPad with one from aliexpress so I could use wifi with linux-libre.
(DIR) Post #3100945 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:34:50.843154Z
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@brad ofcourse do they matter but... i can't blame people who are lazy (like me) for just using the nonfree drivers.it really depends on what the user whats to do with the machine, as long as you know what using nonfree drivers means, I don't see a problem with it.
(DIR) Post #3101054 by brad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T13:36:48.133644Z
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@fence I think usability is actually a big factor with using free software as well. The fact that non-free stuff can't always be included in the kernel means if your hardware works with all free software, you're just going to have a better time. If people complain that their wifi is broken on GNU/Linux, chances are that proprietary software is to blame, and a company is holding everybody back. Supporting hardware that works with free software is a way to sort of cast your vote that things should be simple and easy I think.
(DIR) Post #3101055 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:39:47.283356Z
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@brad tbh sometimes its also just that is no one out there who would maintain a driver for some hardware, but ofcousre what you said is often also the case
(DIR) Post #3101126 by coy@niu.moe
2019-01-18T13:42:19Z
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@fenceprobably referring to the wonderful ability of an nvidia card to do whatever the hell nvidia wants (or doesn't want). Namely: not working with FOSS drivers, code 43, not working in a VM, botching its own kernel modules, not working well with custom kernels, crashing randomly after suspends, etc., etc. Nvidia is also actively hostile towards FOSS, consumers, other companies, inflates prices, and gimps hardware to sell their more expensive cards............
(DIR) Post #3101147 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T13:43:46.337099Z
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@coy don't buy nvidia lol... I don't own a single nvidia product and I never will buy one... because there are good reasons for it
(DIR) Post #3101188 by coy@niu.moe
2019-01-18T13:46:49Z
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@fenceagreed, that's why I don't.
(DIR) Post #3101365 by JonQuan@satania.space
2019-01-18T13:56:15.537326Z
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@fence @coy nVidia makes propitary shit and I wouldn't be surprised if they threw in some BackDoors into their cards. I unfortunately didn't know and got that Garbage when I built my computer last year
(DIR) Post #3101918 by coy@niu.moe
2019-01-18T14:15:19Z
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@JonQuanAll the way back to the nineties, (starting with Pentium 4) hardware has been bugged. I always assume what is done on a computer is somehow monitored, logged, plugged into a database, concatenated with the rest of the data they have on me, which is then used to target/manipulate/identify and sold/traded among data brokers.You can easily blame the US gov for starting it, but it's a lot worse now than it ever was.@fence
(DIR) Post #3102939 by charles@bitsof.tech
2019-01-18T14:54:34.167001Z
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@brad I used it for a bit; cheated in my setup though. used someone else's config (https://github.com/pw4ever/awesome-wm-config, I think)
(DIR) Post #3108730 by JonQuan@satania.space
2019-01-18T17:44:44.018852Z
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@coy @fence it got really bad after 9/11 as Bush passed the Patriot act which was blatently against the fourth amendment. Because of this the government decided that they can spy on you to "prevent terrorism". They than forced companies to put BackDoors in their hardware/software