Post 3099395 by ivesen@miniwa.moe
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(DIR) Post #3006119 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:32:24.912097Z
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Misskey looks really neat.But it's got so many overkill features and is written in node that I probably wouldn't bother hosting it.
(DIR) Post #3006135 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2019-01-15T18:33:14Z
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@quad yeah, it also annoys me a bit how bloated (and inconsistent at it) it feels. Also, apparently there's no way to recover your password...?
(DIR) Post #3006140 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:33:33.236128Z
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Why does Pleroma have to be the one with the good backend, but everyone else gets good front-endssmh
(DIR) Post #3006147 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:33:58.488818Z
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At least Pleroma has the Mastdon front-end. Which is decent enough.
(DIR) Post #3006330 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:40:33.364418Z
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@quad The Good fork of the Mastodon frontend.
(DIR) Post #3006335 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:40:35.259876Z
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@espectalll The bloat and weird focus is the main thing that confuses me.Why does a website need an analog clock?Why is it trying to be a file sharing service as well?Why are the stats and stuff so pretty looking when the actual user experience still seems way too inconsistent and unpolished?
(DIR) Post #3006345 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T18:40:48Z
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@quadMastodon isn't actually as bad and written in an easy and fun language
(DIR) Post #3006369 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:41:51.737631Z
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@Vamp898 Yeah but its resource usage is demonic
(DIR) Post #3006379 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T18:42:17Z
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@quadHow much does it need for an instance with 10-50 users?
(DIR) Post #3006392 by rick@satania.space
2019-01-15T18:42:59.774928Z
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@quad mhh? i really like pleromafe, its not cramped as mastofe
(DIR) Post #3006393 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:43:03.923505Z
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@quad it's chink shit of course it's bloatware.
(DIR) Post #3006402 by rick@satania.space
2019-01-15T18:43:43.646481Z
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@quad but yeah, misskeyfe looks beautiful ^^
(DIR) Post #3006437 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2019-01-15T18:44:48Z
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@quad The clock seems to be for mere aesthetics.I could understand the file sharing thing but it's poorly pasted, feels like a completely isolated part of the UI with its own dialogues and its... filesystem???, and then you wouldn't think of a Twitter clone of all places to share files from.Yes, it's really aesthetics first.
(DIR) Post #3006517 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:47:51.621393Z
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@Vamp898 Honestly what matters more is the amount of posts it's federating, not the number of users.masto.quad.moe needed about 1-2 GB of RAM to run without search enabled. 2-3 GB if I wanted enough sidekiq jobs for the instance to not fall behind on federation occasionally, 3+ GB with search enabled. It had 20-ish users, but they were pretty active so it was federating quite a bit.
(DIR) Post #3006524 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2019-01-15T18:48:04Z
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@quad AND
(DIR) Post #3006545 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:48:55.602822Z
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@rick I can't stand it. It's a pain in the ass to keep track of 3+ conversations and your home timeline with the PleromaFE.
(DIR) Post #3006568 by rick@satania.space
2019-01-15T18:50:10.431563Z
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@quad :akkoshrug:
(DIR) Post #3006625 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:52:06.772379Z
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@espectalll Aesthetics are neat tho. But not when it goes so far that it's form over function.Or in the case of computer software, javascript frameworks over resource usage.
(DIR) Post #3006692 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:54:45.329566Z
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@hellpie it has chinese cartoons though
(DIR) Post #3006794 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T18:59:27.596500Z
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@quad I mean, I'm not joking, the target is literally the stereotypical asian user: minimalism, bold colors, features everywhere, graphics, graphics, graphics, the only reason it doesn't have an in(s)ane amount of custom emoticons is because it's not really all that advanced compared to the competition, but they do have animated text, super bouncy, super flashy, super super. It's very typically asian software for very typical asian users.
(DIR) Post #3006813 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T19:00:45Z
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@quadThat doesn't sound that bad. That's as much memory as my smartphone does have.
(DIR) Post #3006826 by hellpie@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:01:22.105834Z
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@quad basically: if anyone is going to implement online money transfer using ActivityPub just for the sake of being able to transfer money, it's them.
(DIR) Post #3006867 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:03:16.318064Z
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@Vamp898 Yeah but it means if you don't wanna pay like $10/month or more for a reliable host, your only real option is Hetzner.Not Scaleway because they're unreliable as shit lmao.
(DIR) Post #3006888 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:04:42.072304Z
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@Vamp898 You can squeeze by on regular stuff like DigitalOcean/Vultr and some swap with slower or single-user instances though.But if you have more active users, you'll outgrow those in a snap.
(DIR) Post #3006930 by rick@satania.space
2019-01-15T19:07:10.231411Z
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@quad tbh i have this problem with mastofeOn pleromafe i click on an post which got my interest and this expands the conversation. On Mastofe it opens a new column and if you have some lists open, you have to scroll all the way to the right side. mastofe is kinda cramped with his "display all on one page thingy" (at least in my opinion)If i want to follow a conversation for a longer time on pleromafe (escpecially if i'm not tagged), i just open it in a new browsertab.As always.. tastes are different ;)
(DIR) Post #3006931 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T19:07:18Z
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@quadThat's okay for me.
(DIR) Post #3006991 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T19:10:32Z
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@quadId rather die than buying from digital Ocean
(DIR) Post #3007030 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:12:27.459403Z
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@Vamp898 tbh, Vultr is typically better than DO these days
(DIR) Post #3007049 by orekix@pl.smuglo.li
2019-01-15T19:13:30.466758Z
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@quad @Vamp898 >Scaleway unreliablewho would you suggest that offers similar pricing, specially for storage?
(DIR) Post #3007077 by lain@pleroma.soykaf.com
2019-01-15T19:14:27.322098Z
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@orekix @quad @Vamp898 hetzner
(DIR) Post #3007102 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:16:43.964983Z
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@lain @orekix @Vamp898 Hetzner is actually double the price of Scaleway for storage.But it's the closest you'll get.The reason Scaleway can do 50GB per 1€ is because they have zero redundancy.If a single 512GB SSD in their datacenter fails, that means 10 volumes at 50GB just died. It's pretty freaking sad how terrible Scaleway's storage setup is.
(DIR) Post #3007107 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T19:17:23Z
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@lain@orekix@pl.smuglo.li @quadI normally buy at Tilaa if a hardware machine is out of question, very satisfied with them since years
(DIR) Post #3007122 by orekix@pl.smuglo.li
2019-01-15T19:18:16.063642Z
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@quad >zero redundancyabsolutely haramI'll check out what hetzner offers@lain @Vamp898
(DIR) Post #3007140 by rin@patch.cx
2019-01-15T19:19:13.535174Z
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@lain @orekix @quad @Vamp898 isn't pleroma git running on scaleway tho?
(DIR) Post #3007153 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:19:48.148908Z
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@orekix @lain @Vamp898 I ran 5 servers there mostly untouched for a year just to test (huge waste of money I know)2 of them died within that year.Which means that from my very scientific sample size of one, they have a failure rate of 40% per year.I've also lost 2 other servers outside of those tests iirc. One was a mail server, honestly can't remember what the other one did
(DIR) Post #3007167 by lain@pleroma.soykaf.com
2019-01-15T19:19:59.923605Z
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@rin @orekix @quad @Vamp898 no, hetzner
(DIR) Post #3007177 by lain@pleroma.soykaf.com
2019-01-15T19:20:14.033702Z
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@orekix @quad @Vamp898 three times mirrored
(DIR) Post #3007180 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T19:20:42.608553Z
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@rin @lain @orekix @Vamp898 Git is distributed, every user has a copy of the repo. It'd be a pain in the ass to setup GitLab again,but other than that someone just needs to push the most recent repo up from their computer and it'd be back.
(DIR) Post #3007390 by Vamp898@social.tchncs.de
2019-01-15T19:28:07Z
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@lain@orekix@pl.smuglo.li @quadTilaa does have an CO2 Neutral Tier-3+ Datacenter with 99,99% uptime, 24/7 SLA and only local disks for highest possible performance
(DIR) Post #3009856 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
2019-01-15T20:43:50.461522Z
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@quad @Vamp898 but what about vultr? didnt you say they are reliable too?
(DIR) Post #3010498 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-15T21:06:43.751077Z
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@debbie @Vamp898 Their 2GB server is $10/mo.You could probably manage on the 1GB plan with a bunch of swap for small instances though.But you'd also be stuck with a 25GB drive, not too optimal for the fediverse. masto.quad.moe kept the last 7 days of external media, and that required about 40GB of space. (Because Mastodon stores media locally, unlike Pleroma that just pipes it through mediaproxy, if anything, then you can cache it with nginx if you want to)
(DIR) Post #3099112 by rond@patafisica.cc
2019-01-18T12:06:50.815148Z
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@Vamp898 @quad i ran a single user instance of mastodon on a 1gb/ram 25gb ssd vultr vps and in three days the server was stuffed and i installed pleroma. i couldn't do anything else in the server, because mastodon took so much CPU and storage (its caching is just weird). also pleroma has an easily accessible mastodon front-end that comes with it.
(DIR) Post #3099113 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:15:41.097695Z
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@rond @Vamp898 Yeah I know. I run Pleroma and use the Mastodon front-end.I used about 4GB of ram and 50 GB of disk space when handling 10-15 users before on Mastodon. I probably wouldn't be able to stand using Pleroma if it didn't have a Mastodon UI tbh, or at least supported the Mastodon API
(DIR) Post #3099395 by ivesen@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T12:25:32.118048Z
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@quad buyvm has block storage for $1.25 per 250GBand $3 ish vps's
(DIR) Post #3099455 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:28:33.731090Z
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@ivesen Oh shit, when did they add block storage? They didn't have that a couple months ago.
(DIR) Post #3099483 by ivesen@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T12:29:50.553349Z
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@quad :blobshrug:
(DIR) Post #3099746 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T12:40:03.497027Z
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@ivesen @quad >1.25 per 250GBwhere who really....
(DIR) Post #3099784 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T12:41:27.661248Z
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@ivesen @quad > Order 1TB of usable storage for just $5.00 / month is this a scam?
(DIR) Post #3100012 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T12:50:01.293036Z
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@fence @ivesen BuyVM hasn't scammed me thus far. We ran openings.moe's US node there a while.Their VM pricing wasn't quite as ridiculous though
(DIR) Post #3100144 by fence@miniwa.moe
2019-01-18T12:57:20.686395Z
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@Technowix @ivesen @quad 🔥🔥🔥 🚒 :blobcatsurprised:
(DIR) Post #3100222 by quad@weeaboo.space
2019-01-18T13:00:45.100305Z
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@Technowix @ivesen @fence I've seen a switch fail there.But still 100x the reliability of Scaleway or whatever else people use