Post 3052530 by hdasch@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #3030219 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-16T11:52:26Z
       
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       Does anyone use both Dvorak and QWERTY on a regular basis? I've done some typing exercises and have experimented with Dvorak. It really does seem more ergonomic. #Dvorak #QWERTY
       
 (DIR) Post #3030838 by cthulahoops@grurple.org
       2019-01-16T12:20:41Z
       
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       @cigarBGuitarEfx I'm primarily a Dvorak user, still use Qwerty on my phone, gaming, and random machines. Really helped with RSI, though that may just be that it forced me to learn to type properly.
       
 (DIR) Post #3033761 by politicalcustard@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-16T14:24:56Z
       
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       @cigarBGuitarEfx I've tried Dvorak and it definitely feels much more efficient, sadly I've been touch typing with qwerty for 30 years and it seemed like too much reprogramming of my brain at the time. If I could do it all over again I'd definitely go with Dvorak. Perhaps I'll give it another go now that you've planted a brain seed! I also swipe on my so if probably have to learn that all over again.
       
 (DIR) Post #3051248 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-17T02:08:03Z
       
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       @cthulahoops My first step has been to switch to Dvorak on my phone. I have to look at the keyboard to type anyway on a phone, might as well use that to learn the patterns.
       
 (DIR) Post #3052530 by hdasch@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-17T03:16:55Z
       
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       @cigarBGuitarEfx I switched to DVORAK almost 20 years ago after about 20 years using QWERTY.  I rarely use QWERTY anymore.  When I do, I have to look; the muscle memory has faded.I'm happy with the switch.  Almost no wrist pain anymore.  I thought my career was going to be cut short if I couldn't type without pain.One down side for VIM users, the home row cursor movement keys don't translate easily.  One more reason for me to favor emacs.
       
 (DIR) Post #3052609 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-17T03:21:55Z
       
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       @hdasch ErgoEmacs has multiple modes, one of which is Dvorak. Makes switching easier for me. It's the same muscle memory the Emacs commands for both layouts.
       
 (DIR) Post #3052658 by hdasch@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-17T03:24:42Z
       
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       @cigarBGuitarEfx I'll have to look at those modes.  I didn't do anything  with the emacs keybindings. The emacs keybindings are mnemonic, rather than positinal.  The muscle memory moved with the mnemomics pretty easily.Good luck.
       
 (DIR) Post #3052734 by cigarBGuitarEfx@fosstodon.org
       2019-01-17T03:29:11Z
       
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       @hdasch Yeah, ErgoEmacs changes Emacs to be positional. It is highly intuitive. After using Emacs for about a year straight, I pretty much had the new commands down on day 1. It is incompatible with some modes, the main one that I can think of is ses-mode, but simply opening a new session that is not using ErgoEmacs for that stuff and using the "Vanilla" commands in those windows has worked so far. At this point, I've been using ErgoEmacs longer than I've been using Emacs without it.
       
 (DIR) Post #3057823 by cthulahoops@grurple.org
       2019-01-17T07:00:47Z
       
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       @cigarBGuitarEfx Interesting to hear how you get on. I've never found dvorak good on a phone. I think an unoptimised layout is better than a layout optimised for a very different device. (Dvorak optimises for alternating hands for example, which makes no sense on a phone.)