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(DIR) Post #3021502 by codesections@fosstodon.org
2019-01-16T04:11:56Z
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I understand that #wayland is more secure than #xorg and (at least in theory) could become easier to develop for. But are there any *user visible* changes that I'd be able see if I started using it?
(DIR) Post #3021503 by bluetechgirl@elekk.xyz
2019-01-16T04:15:59Z
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@codesections Stuff would break since most things are developed with xorg in mind. Other than that nothing I know of. Wayland still needs more work to accommodate for legacy xorg programs. We will get their eventually.
(DIR) Post #3021506 by wowaname@anime.website
2019-01-16T04:18:29.717001Z
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@codesections depends which compositor you want to use
(DIR) Post #3021610 by alcinnz@floss.social
2019-01-16T04:24:17Z
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@codesections I think there might be *some* user visible changes, but they'd be barely noticable. Mostly limited to things like more consistancy and reliability in how popup menus and popovers behave.(Behind the scenes the difference is in X you say "gave me all the input from now until I say step and open a new window here" and in Wayland you say "open a popup window")I don't think there'd really be anything more than those sorts of subtleties.
(DIR) Post #3021627 by alrs@lsngl.us
2019-01-16T04:25:08Z
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@codesections it should resolve issues with screen tearing. I installed Fedora last month to take a look at it, and found it buggy and broken.
(DIR) Post #3035845 by brennen@mastodon.social
2019-01-16T04:57:08Z
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@codesections in my case the answer is "lots of carefully configured tooling from the last ~20 years will break and the underlying facilities to create suitable replacements will be theoretically promised but in actual fact missing"i'm not looking forward to the switch. sort of hoping i have at least the lifetime of a debian stable release before i really have to deal with it.
(DIR) Post #3035846 by ajroach42@retro.social
2019-01-16T05:37:23Z
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@brennen @codesections I’m on wayland now. Aside from screensharing from common apps being completely broken, I haven’t noticed anything didferent, honestly.
(DIR) Post #3035847 by alexcleac@mastodon.technology
2019-01-16T05:59:10Z
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@ajroach42 @codesections @brennen what DE do you use?
(DIR) Post #3035848 by ajroach42@retro.social
2019-01-16T15:04:02Z
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@alexcleac @brennen @codesections gnome
(DIR) Post #3035849 by kelbot@fosstodon.org
2019-01-16T15:48:31Z
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@ajroach42 @codesections @brennen @alexcleac I think most of us agree that wayland is in theory going to be much better. The main problem I see is that it has taken a long time to be usable and there are still a lot of edge cases that are not worked out. Being something as important as your entire graphical environment most are not willing to switch until everything is ironed out. But it will take a while to do that if not a lot of people are using it.
(DIR) Post #3037798 by brennen@mastodon.social
2019-01-16T17:02:54Z
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@kelbot @ajroach42 @codesections @alexcleac i'm definitely aware of some upsides, and i'm willing to take people at their word that programming against x11 is hellish, but (especially as somebody living outside the gnome / KDE box) i'm pretty aware that a lot of the edge cases will include stuff i use.(not least is network transparency / forwarding over ssh, which is awesome and i can't believe we're giving it up, but plenty of other little tooling is on the list as well.)