Post 2774145 by uranther@cybre.space
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 (DIR) Post #2773809 by uranther@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T16:49:23Z
       
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       While yesterday's inflammatory toot surely earned me some blocks & reports, it's a "sorry, not sorry" situation.You would be surprised at how many economists and people in finance do not understand the treasonous process of money creation, or otherwise take it as a given.It's not something we are taught or something that is talked about, so everyone else lives with the wool pulled over their eyes - that money somehow *exists*.I just want to wake y'all up to the institutional lies.Truth is power. ✊ 🏴
       
 (DIR) Post #2774049 by karyl@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T16:55:07Z
       
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       @uranther One of the issues I think that leftists have with cryptocurrency is actually adjacent to the tech itself.Often, the communities surrounding these currencies are filled with libertarians and ancaps, and engaging with the technologies and markets means engaging with people who believe really stupid shit and spout it at every opportunity.
       
 (DIR) Post #2774145 by uranther@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T17:00:15Z
       
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       @karyl fair enough!But using that as an excuse to disregard decades of cutting-edge research done by cypherpunks - who have been trying to solve the problem of anonymous electronic cash - is just bigoted and stupid.Then it's just the pot calling the kettle black - it's unbecoming of a radical looking out for humanity's future.
       
 (DIR) Post #2774609 by karyl@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T17:15:14Z
       
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       @uranther Well, it makes the whole topic look unappealing, when you go near anything cryptocurrency-related and there's a bunch of righties jerking each other off. Maybe it's not the best position, but it's certainly an understandable one.I'm trying to think of solutions here... Either an altcoin that leftists could use for trading amongst ourselves? Or maybe just some grassroots work creating a left-friendly BTC (due to adoption/usability) community that doesn't suffer AnCap bullshit.
       
 (DIR) Post #2774789 by uranther@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T17:22:00Z
       
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       @karyl I don't know - hard to just create a community if no one is interested.I am trying to point out that it's not bullshit and it deserves our attention regardless of what (non-)political philosophy we might ascribe to.It's unfortunate that the communities surrounding it are so despicable, but the only way that will change is if people sincerely look into it themselves, without being distracted by people's antics. To do that, they have to be motivated to search for some truth.
       
 (DIR) Post #2775252 by karyl@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T17:41:03Z
       
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       @uranther Just to clarify, I'm not calling the technology bullshit. Just the communities that have sprung up around it, thus far.Community building is certainly work, and you're right that it doesn't just happen. But if you want people to be interested in something they're not already interested in, it's got to be done.Additionally, scolding people who don't see the benefits of cryptocurrency does nothing to educate or persuade them.
       
 (DIR) Post #2775327 by uranther@cybre.space
       2019-01-08T17:44:09Z
       
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       @karyl I understand that my method was induced by indignation, and therefore wasn't exactly skillful.What is frustrating that the second you mention bitcoin, people are ready to spout their garbage opinions about it without any interest in truth.