Post 2755873 by v@cdmx.rocks
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(DIR) Post #2751878 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-07T23:59:21Z
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how long would it take to install gentoo/funtoo on a Rpi? has anyone had the patience to do it?My laptop has been compiling Xorg things for ever. whachu think @trayofbees
(DIR) Post #2751879 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T00:00:26Z
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@vHalf a day lol
(DIR) Post #2751936 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T00:02:27Z
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@trayofbees probably just for the base system! Imagine if you wanted to add xlde D:
(DIR) Post #2751969 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T00:03:37Z
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@vEmacs is about 1 hour on a 3b+ using the -j4 switch
(DIR) Post #2752028 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T00:05:10Z
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@trayofbees I'll do it after I buy a serial uart thingy just for poop and laughs (just the base system)
(DIR) Post #2752151 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T00:09:18Z
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@trayofbees also I have trying neomutt for email and I read that emacs has an email thingy? I'm considering learning emacs (FU vim), do you recommend a specific website/wiki/demonic-entity-to-sell-my-soul-to?
(DIR) Post #2755667 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:34:54Z
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@v Hmmm... mutt works with emacs (there's mu4e which can interface with it). I happen to run the one and official @emacs news service
(DIR) Post #2755710 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T02:36:17Z
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@trayofbees @emacs :face_think_thonking: I thought emacs had an email client or something
(DIR) Post #2755716 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:36:27Z
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@v My first recommendation when starting emacs is to learn how to get packages and theme it. Mastering Emacs is a great blog
(DIR) Post #2755739 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:37:08Z
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@v It has an email+newsreader combo inside of it called gnus. Do not use this for email. It's single-threaded so when you fetch on multiple or big accounts it takes ages to suck the headers down
(DIR) Post #2755751 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T02:37:34Z
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@trayofbees oh thanks
(DIR) Post #2755776 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:38:17Z
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@v If you already know vim, you could look into EvIL mode... that way you don't have to re-learn keybindings. But tbh it kind of makes you dumber since you'll eventually want to rid yourself of vim given all the tricks built into standard vim are already part of standard emacs or a quick package download
(DIR) Post #2755823 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:39:47Z
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@v Once you figure out packages and how to run M-x customize-group to reach at the settings (there's billions of configurations in emacs, and it's self-documenting so you can tinker around quite a lot).... you should learn org-mode
(DIR) Post #2755850 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T02:40:26Z
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@trayofbees I'll go slowly lol
(DIR) Post #2755851 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:40:26Z
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@v org-mode is the killer app inside emacs. It comes with emacs in the standard install and you also get it if you compile manually. This video is great at showing at just the basics of what it can do -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzA2YODtgK4
(DIR) Post #2755873 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T02:41:38Z
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@trayofbees holy shit, I've always thought emacs was an OS, DE, WM, office thing, and more
(DIR) Post #2755879 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:41:58Z
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@v LISP is pretty easy to get the hang of.... when you get to customizing your boot script (~/.emacs, or ~/.emacs.d/init.el)... like to tell emacs to load a package you installed on start, the command is (require 'package-name)
(DIR) Post #2756126 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:51:58Z
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@v Emacs is basically a weird virtual machine. It's just one big giant ball of state
(DIR) Post #2756149 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:53:05Z
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@v for the longest time Emacs was single-threaded but that is finally being addressed... it will take time for all the various package maintainers to update their sources, but the internet-dependent packages that make web service calls are getting updated (yes, there's a slack and a mastodon as well as a twitter client for emacs)
(DIR) Post #2756162 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:53:59Z
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@v Oh and emacs already has a built-in great IRC client called ERC
(DIR) Post #2756195 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:55:25Z
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@v There's also support for direct pastebin and image pasting... so you can review snapshots/pics and clipped text, throw them to a host and the sharable URL is deposited in your kill ring (kill rings work a bit differently than a clipboard... it's an undo chain). You can use that to paste into other shit.
(DIR) Post #2756224 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:56:37Z
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@v Emacs is just crazy, crazy shit. It's impossible to master. But it's been around sufficiently long enough (42 years now I think) that there's no real worry of it ever disappearing or losing skills to obsolescence. The benefit pays off in spades as you learn to do your mundane daily tasks more efficiently
(DIR) Post #2756272 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:58:15Z
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@v Emacs's power comes directly from the fact that everything is in a shared memory space, so all packages either already interoperate with each other or can be made to do that with simple code---and there's a very deep event model called hooks. You can throw some code on to any hook and have it trigger under any condition you need.
(DIR) Post #2756307 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T02:58:43Z
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@v There's also a very powerful shell for git in emacs if you download and install the magit package. I've yet to see a git frontend as good as magit
(DIR) Post #2756356 by trayofbees@innerwebs.social
2019-01-08T03:00:05Z
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@v When you install emacs, first thing you want to do right away is add the MELPA repository to your emacs.https://melpa.org/#/
(DIR) Post #2756396 by v@cdmx.rocks
2019-01-08T03:05:29Z
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@trayofbees a "program" that has it's own repo, doesn't surprise me