Post 2750513 by kalium@xkcd.network
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(DIR) Post #2749052 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:10:25Z
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my god, it took me three years to get a class that just taught C
(DIR) Post #2749056 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:10:46Z
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who ever thought it was a good idea to teach the simplest languages (C, lisp, etc) at the fourth year of college
(DIR) Post #2749119 by kaniini@pleroma.site
2019-01-07T22:12:00.686206Z
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@pounce i'll teach you C
(DIR) Post #2749120 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:13:26Z
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@kaniini i've done C for three/four years so i don't really need tutoringbut i wouldn't turn down one-on-one time with you <3
(DIR) Post #2749268 by riking@social.wxcafe.net
2019-01-07T22:17:39Z
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@pounce hard agree that C+lisp should be the first languages taught. they're considered the syntax foundations of their lang families for a reason
(DIR) Post #2749517 by velartrill@pleroma.site
2019-01-07T22:20:03.425502Z
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@pounce in my college CS 201 course they taught java first, and had us doing exercises like implementing a "binary adder" over strings of ascii ones and zeroes. as GUIs. C was 400-level. html and javascript were 100-level.punchline: the year i dropped my CS major and ran screaming back to Linguistics, they switched from Java to Python.
(DIR) Post #2749518 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:26:34Z
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@velartrill oh that sucksi really dislike how CS programs start with java. It goes and discourages programmers because it confronts us with super verbose and complicated syntax and teaches bad programming practices.I think it would be a lot better if we started with a simpler language (even python, since it has its place)honestly i don't think that going to linguistics was a bad idea though, i've considered running to linguistics quite a few times already
(DIR) Post #2749658 by kalium@xkcd.network
2019-01-07T22:30:58Z
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@pounce Yep This Is How University IsI've been doing python and java for three years and I only get to do C++ in Operating Systems in fourth year it's awful and terrible.
(DIR) Post #2749670 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:31:40Z
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@kalium big oof, im sorry that it turned out that way
(DIR) Post #2749857 by impiaaa@octodon.social
2019-01-07T22:39:32Z
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@pounce some colleges (the good ones) do it early. took a 1st year college course in high school that taught python, racket (lisp), pseudo-assembly, and prolog. the actual college I went to did not do it that way, sadly.
(DIR) Post #2749936 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-07T22:43:14Z
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@impiaaa here's the really silly thing.One of the main developers of racket /works at my university/but i guess we just get so much money from microsoft that Java and C# remain the default.The only class in racket is his programming languages class
(DIR) Post #2750513 by kalium@xkcd.network
2019-01-07T23:07:55Z
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@pounce @velartrill they teach Java in the high schools here and I can't help but feel that it teaches a dangerously narrow form of programming that students Have a hard time breaking free from, I was lucky enough to learn Pascal instead.
(DIR) Post #2755602 by skybrian@cmpwn.com
2019-01-08T02:31:31Z
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@pounce It was a long time ago but I don't remember anyone teaching C in class. I learned it for my computer graphics class because they said "we use C for this". It seems like college should be teaching you how to learn languages on your own?
(DIR) Post #2755867 by pounce@cmpwn.com
2019-01-08T02:41:25Z
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@skybrian yeah yeah, id be fine with that since i teach myself languages fine. But they seem to hold your hand a ton at this university. there's a class devoted to java, then one to C#, etc. that are all required
(DIR) Post #2760908 by emersion@octodon.social
2019-01-08T06:48:46Z
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@pounce never got a C class ;_;