Post 2701289 by GyrosGeier@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #2701263 by dirtycommo@anticapitalist.party
2019-01-05T14:11:09Z
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i really agree that a really big drawback of social media is that it buries postsi think USENET really is superior to twitter clones like mastodon
(DIR) Post #2701264 by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-01-05T18:03:00Z
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@dirtycommoI never used USENET. How does it not make that?
(DIR) Post #2701265 by dirtycommo@anticapitalist.party
2019-01-05T22:29:22Z
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@paulfree14 it's like a more dynamic and social emailing list. you get to see different ''topics'' being discussed, and you can search through topics/threads for information. web ''forums'' took a lot of ideas from USENET. another name for USENET is ''newsgroups'', where you use a ''newsreader'' to view info. ALSO, it's like mastodon where servers federate and download each other's messages, except the download only occurs once, so it is more efficient than the web/HTTP
(DIR) Post #2701266 by gegeweb@stoneartprod.xyz
2019-01-06T06:39:59Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 > where servers federate and download each other's messages, No, not exactly.A NNTP server, a member of the USENET network, will distribute its articles to its peers. Peers who will themselves feed to their peers.It's a flood diffusion.It doesn't works like federation.I think it's better. 😉 The user is not attached to a server as an access point. No need to multiply identities.The power of USENET is the NNTP protocol.
(DIR) Post #2701287 by paulfree14@todon.nl
2019-01-06T05:29:51Z
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@dirtycommooh, I had no idea it was federated. why did people ever switch to something else?#USENET
(DIR) Post #2701288 by dirtycommo@anticapitalist.party
2019-01-06T05:52:07Z
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@paulfree14 i think because USENET existed in the 80s before the internet and the web, and the web has come to dominate the worldthe web is highly centralised, and all of its parts have become siloed off from each other, so we're kind of 'rediscovering' federationthe problem is the concept of federation is structured around trying to take the silos like twitter and clone them
(DIR) Post #2701289 by GyrosGeier@mastodon.social
2019-01-06T06:21:31Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 the key sentence I took away from 35C3 was "protocols, not platforms." Which is a lot like "solidarity, not charity."
(DIR) Post #2701296 by dirtycommo@anticapitalist.party
2019-01-06T06:42:45Z
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@gegeweb @paulfree14 ahhh yes you're totally rightit is way way better
(DIR) Post #2701297 by gegeweb@stoneartprod.xyz
2019-01-06T06:47:53Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 Yes I thinK.The other power of the USENET/NNTP network is that NNTP does not require TCP/IP.If there is a real comparison to be made, it is with web forums, in this context, USENET is much better than any other.And much more convenient for group communication than a mailing list.
(DIR) Post #2701298 by gegeweb@stoneartprod.xyz
2019-01-06T06:50:00Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 Usenet death predicted, episode number …I still receive requests for feeds!
(DIR) Post #2729334 by gegeweb@stoneartprod.xyz
2019-01-06T06:42:55Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 An article posted on a network server will be distributed to the servers that distribute the hierarchy or forum, even if the origin server is not directly connected.But these are not the same features and objectives as social networks.
(DIR) Post #2729335 by guenam@mamot.fr
2019-01-06T11:41:54Z
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@gegeweb @dirtycommo @paulfree14 Would you tell us more about the different objectives? It’s interesting.
(DIR) Post #2729336 by gegeweb@stoneartprod.xyz
2019-01-07T07:11:13Z
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@guenam In English, it's going to be complicated. Let's try it with DeepL…No "like", no "personal branding", no subscriptions between users, no "friends".These are only forums, generally thematic, organized in hierarchies. And the user finds the same content regardless of the server.So it is a decentralized system of forums. But not a social netwotk like GnuSocial, Mastodon, Diaspora*… and more less than Twitter or FB.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet@dirtycommo @paulfree14
(DIR) Post #2729337 by marsxyz@sale.gauchiste.club
2019-01-07T08:29:08.335717Z
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@gegewebThe best comparison is "decentralized reddit" in my opinion@paulfree14 @dirtycommo @guenam
(DIR) Post #9mGSxDyuVi3I5Hy6QC by se7en@freespeechextremist.com
2019-08-26T02:53:10.893974Z
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@dirtycommo @paulfree14 You know nothing