Post 2566883 by PinkCathodeCat@cybre.space
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(DIR) Post #2559963 by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-01-02T22:56:06Z
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so i've heard people say "but what if the government tells you to take in a Muslim family!!!???!!" and like... that's not actually a terrible idea?1/2
(DIR) Post #2559975 by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-01-02T22:56:19Z
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like, based on what I've read, the problem is that immigrants stick with their kind and don't assimilate (or at least not as fast as some would hope), eg. a lot of women don't speak English and their husbands don't let them learn it because they don't want women to have powerwell, if they lived among a more diverse group of people then wouldn't they learn the more progressive values faster?
(DIR) Post #2560115 by etherealsolkatt@mastodon.social
2019-01-02T23:00:21Z
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@grainloom oh my goodness!! I've perfectly clear this kind of arguments.. why people don't openly admit they're xenophobic? it would much easier this way
(DIR) Post #2560386 by PinkCathodeCat@cybre.space
2019-01-02T23:08:38Z
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@grainloom I find it horrifically racist to presume not learning english is a) a problem and b) that muslim men as a rule keep their wives disempowered.have you considered in regard to point a than Westerners should learn more languages and be more cultured?btw I'm married to a Muslim man and doing a law degree. when I finish I'll be more educated than he is.
(DIR) Post #2560434 by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-01-02T23:09:48Z
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@PinkCathodeCat the problem was not directly that they don't learn English but that by not learning English they can't talk to others outside their group
(DIR) Post #2560624 by PinkCathodeCat@cybre.space
2019-01-02T23:15:06Z
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@grainloom many know more than their first tongue - e.g some women might know arabic and a tribal language or urdu and punjabi and sindhi. meaning their circle is already bigger than ours as one language speakers.I think it's pretty presumptuous to think that many women won't learn or improve their English.what I'm trying to get at is that these 'fears' are the results of an irrational fear of the other brought about by the ruling classes
(DIR) Post #2560888 by grainloom@cybre.space
2019-01-02T23:24:06Z
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@PinkCathodeCat those languages won't be much use to them in Europe thoughI've definitely heard about Muslim immigrants enforcing gender based segregation, but it's possible the stories were exaggerated. If you have reliable statistics on these I'd love to see them. I have an exam tomorrow so I don't have time to look them up on my own right now.
(DIR) Post #2566883 by PinkCathodeCat@cybre.space
2019-01-03T02:53:24Z
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@grainloom and I don't have time to deal with a racist who lacks an understanding of the problems of western feminist interpretation of 'gender segregation' so bye for now