Post 2535753 by prydt@niu.moe
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 (DIR) Post #2534988 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:40:59.735082Z
       
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       updated (spac)emacs and whatnot. it's now fast.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535005 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:41:39.031029Z
       
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       @hj why emacs and not vi?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535015 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:42:05.548390Z
       
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       @debbieMedic's answer to every questio…
       
 (DIR) Post #2535035 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:42:58.759761Z
       
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       @hj vi is better imo
       
 (DIR) Post #2535066 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:44:14.156481Z
       
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       @debbieYeah, well, that's just, like, …
       
 (DIR) Post #2535078 by cvcvcv@freespeech.host
       2019-01-02T06:44:46.950514Z
       
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       @debbie @hj fucking RETARDS can't even read a TECO promt its called a LINE EDITOR you stupid NIGGER
       
 (DIR) Post #2535101 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:45:46.010596Z
       
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       @cvcvcv @hj tf is your problem
       
 (DIR) Post #2535117 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:46:13.622558Z
       
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       @debbie @cvcvcv it's cvcvcv fedi's spammer number 4
       
 (DIR) Post #2535129 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:47:18.653433Z
       
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       @hj @cvcvcv is it a bot?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535147 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:47:45.163377Z
       
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       @debbie @cvcvcv don't really know and don't really care.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535163 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:48:22.612256Z
       
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       @hj aha ok. have you tried vi?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535188 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:49:44.801807Z
       
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       @debbie yeah, i prefer vim because i already have some decent dotfiles for it, and just, you know, force of habit. It's more suited for "i need to edit /etc/fstab real quick" kind of tasks and doing shit over ssh. More than emacs i mean.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535198 by cvcvcv@freespeech.host
       2019-01-02T06:50:18.900011Z
       
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       @debbie @hj where the FUCK is your TEXT EDITORfucking dumb fucking nigger peice of SHIT who do you think you are?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535233 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:53:01.939100Z
       
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       @hj aha hmm so emacs is suited for coding? couldnt you create a .vimrc that suits your coding needs?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535294 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T06:57:16.557767Z
       
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       @debbie i used vim for coding for a year or so I believe. I'm not exactly keen of configuring shit in a text file for too long and i basically used vim-evangelistic colleague's dotfiles which was sorta mish-mash of plugins and shit. Some other colleague pitched spacemacs and similar and I found it to be much better and consistent out of the box, plus much easier configuration and uh.. better UX.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535321 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T06:58:35.419987Z
       
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       @hj ok you got your reasons. i will stay on nvi
       
 (DIR) Post #2535548 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:06:44Z
       
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       @debbie @hj what if I told you vi key-bindings existed in emacs which makes emacs essentially an IDE with a lisp based plugin system
       
 (DIR) Post #2535549 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T07:12:50.052093Z
       
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       @ilovecomputers @hj idc emacs is bloat. vim is bloat. nvi ftw
       
 (DIR) Post #2535580 by hj@shigusegubu.club
       2019-01-02T07:13:51.530601Z
       
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       @ilovecomputers @debbie spacemacs basically defaults to that, I like it.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535623 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:17:02Z
       
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       @hj @ilovecomputers @debbie I've always felt spacemacs was the best of both worlds, having both vim-keybindings, and the high quality plugins of emacs... my only grip with it is its start up time, but that can be safely ignored if you just keep it open
       
 (DIR) Post #2535637 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:17:51Z
       
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       @prydt @hj @debbie and I’m already used to that with IntelliJ
       
 (DIR) Post #2535658 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:19:29Z
       
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       @ilovecomputers @hj @debbie I always found IntelliJ as Eclipse but slower...
       
 (DIR) Post #2535677 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:20:35Z
       
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       @prydt and yet more versatile. I’ve been so productive thanks to IntelliJ. They make refactoring as fluid as copy and pasting
       
 (DIR) Post #2535682 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T07:21:17.087369Z
       
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       @prydt @hj @ilovecomputers whats the thing with ides instead of nvi?
       
 (DIR) Post #2535753 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:26:00Z
       
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       @debbie @ilovecomputers  I actually understand using IDEs instead of something like vim in the case of Java... I've always felt that Java is much easier to deal with when granted tons of tools... sure its not as efficient as vim, but its more productive imo... thats why ive always felt Java was a pain to use...I'm sure one could configure vim with a multitude of plugins to achieve the same goal, but there is a lot of convenience in using something preconfigured
       
 (DIR) Post #2535765 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T07:26:52.075410Z
       
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       @prydt @ilovecomputers aha then i would switch language tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #2535774 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:27:47Z
       
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       @prydt @debbie not just Java. Any language can benefit from an ide because of the AST analysis and manipulation it can provide.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535783 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:28:41Z
       
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       @debbie @ilovecomputers p much... ive never liked using Java honestly even though it was one of my first languages...did you know the American school system actually teaches Java in the beginner programming course?think of a better way to make people dislike programming than to literally just teach Java syntax...
       
 (DIR) Post #2535819 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:30:46Z
       
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       @prydt @debbie I’ve noticed a trend where schools switch from java to python.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535827 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T07:31:29.576791Z
       
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       @ilovecomputers @prydt both are bad but at least python is good for beginners
       
 (DIR) Post #2535853 by ilovecomputers@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:29:23Z
       
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       @prydt @debbie even Rust is providing such a capability built into its language https://github.com/rust-lang/rls
       
 (DIR) Post #2535854 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:32:24Z
       
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       @ilovecomputers @debbie honestly Rust shows so much promise... Its a low level language with optional high level syntax sugar with a package manager... the only thing holding me back from really using it is that ill have to learn it, and itll take a bit of getting used to the language...
       
 (DIR) Post #2535856 by wizard@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:32:32Z
       
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       @prydt @hj @ilovecomputers @debbie The things that drove me away from spacemacs were the long startup time and the slowness of the editor in general, also that that it didn't work properly in a terminal.I love my personally edited emacs config, it all makes a lot more sense when made from the ground up.
       
 (DIR) Post #2535920 by prydt@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:36:11Z
       
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       @wizard @hj @ilovecomputers @debbie I personally configured vim and use it, but i never configured emacs and i think its because of a difference i see in the editors... I think default vim is usable, it works great right out of the box and can be improved with plugins and scripts... when I tried to use emacs, I immediately found it horrendous to use... this is all just my opinion ofc but ill always prefer vanilla vim to vanilla emacs and i think thats what drove me to configure vim myself
       
 (DIR) Post #2535931 by wizard@niu.moe
       2019-01-02T07:37:15Z
       
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       @prydt @hj @ilovecomputers @debbie That's exactly what I think too.I still love to use vim, the defaults are great. But after that initial hurdle of configuring Emacs, it's the bomb dot com and nothing comes close.
       
 (DIR) Post #2539981 by rinpatch@mastodon.sdf.org
       2019-01-02T11:16:09Z
       
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       @cvcvcv @debbie @hj :rokalife:
       
 (DIR) Post #2540049 by debbie@pleroma.apelsin.space
       2019-01-02T11:18:47.423681Z
       
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       @rinpatch @hj @cvcvcv much angrier than roka
       
 (DIR) Post #2540653 by cvcvcv@freespeech.host
       2019-01-02T11:45:19.833477Z
       
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       @debbie @rinpatch @hj fucking NIGGERS