Post 2378379 by kragen@nerdculture.de
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 (DIR) Post #2377739 by sir@cmpwn.com
       2018-12-28T20:39:11Z
       
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       Updates to the language-picker script:- Mobile- Embedded- More consideration of lisp- Consider the fat-ass Python runtimeThis is now the canonical source for deciding which language to use.You're welcome.https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/dotfiles/tree/master/bin/language-picker
       
 (DIR) Post #2378191 by doesntgolf@octodon.social
       2018-12-28T21:07:59Z
       
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       @sir I interpret this as a personal attack on the core of my being.
       
 (DIR) Post #2378377 by TeddyDD@octodon.social
       2018-12-28T21:12:29Z
       
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       @sir rejecting Lua because of 1 based arrays? I'd  understand weak typing, small standard library or verbose syntax but indexing? 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #2378378 by sir@cmpwn.com
       2018-12-28T21:15:11Z
       
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       @TeddyDD all of these are problems but 1 based array is a short and convenient signal for language designers who have no fucking clue what they're doing
       
 (DIR) Post #2378379 by kragen@nerdculture.de
       2018-12-28T21:19:31Z
       
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       @sir @TeddyDD That's just a convention-conformance acid test — 0-based indices are objectively superior, but only a little bit, and not Pareto superior. The Lua design is pretty excellent in a lot of ways.
       
 (DIR) Post #2378576 by technomancy@icosahedron.website
       2018-12-28T21:22:34Z
       
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       @sir "Do you need low-level control over data structures?" -> Y -> "do you really?" -> Y -> "then why are you even bothering with a language-picker script; you know what the only answer is"
       
 (DIR) Post #2378650 by TeddyDD@octodon.social
       2018-12-28T21:24:12Z
       
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       @sir I disagree. Lua is high level so indexing by numer of element instead of offset in memory is justified. I never understood why 1-indexing is so annoying to some people. To each his own I guess :)
       
 (DIR) Post #2378755 by technomancy@icosahedron.website
       2018-12-28T21:23:40Z
       
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       @TeddyDD @sir rejecting Lua because of 1-based indexing is like rejecting python because of whitespace: it shows you haven't actually tried it because if you had you'd know there are bigger problems to complain about.
       
 (DIR) Post #2378756 by sir@cmpwn.com
       2018-12-28T21:25:49Z
       
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       @technomancy @TeddyDD I have used Lua quite a bit, but 1-indexing is objectively 100% dumb as fuck, so with that fact alone you can judge that the language designers have their head up their ass and assume the rest is similarly dumb
       
 (DIR) Post #2378933 by charlag@birb.site
       2018-12-28T21:40:50Z
       
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       @sir this Go-broing and level of argumentation doesn't worth the attention that it brings.
       
 (DIR) Post #2379061 by sir@cmpwn.com
       2018-12-28T21:49:51Z
       
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       @charlag tell me what you really think
       
 (DIR) Post #2379207 by qqlq@bsd.network
       2018-12-28T21:55:08Z
       
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       @sir I like C++. It gives me the possibility to abstract without incurring a performance penalty at runtime. The same goes for Rust but I do after that it feels rather volatile.