Post 2182408 by Liberty4Masses@liberdon.com
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 (DIR) Post #2182407 by algorev@mstdn.io
       2018-08-20T23:10:52Z
       
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       @dtluna @brychan@liberdon.com the question is not whether it can exist or not, it's about whether it's preferable and in what form.
       
 (DIR) Post #2182408 by Liberty4Masses@liberdon.com
       2018-08-20T23:18:38Z
       
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       @algorev @dtluna @brychan the kind where people don’t force others to do stuff against their will sounds pretty good.
       
 (DIR) Post #2182409 by algorev@mstdn.io
       2018-08-20T23:35:57Z
       
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       @Liberty4Masses @dtluna @brychan@liberdon.com but I'd rather follow Thomas Hobbes on this one: people need a superior power over them to do anything viable, and that's forcing someone to do something. This means that this freedom is not applicable in most places if we want a functioning system.
       
 (DIR) Post #2182410 by Liberty4Masses@liberdon.com
       2018-08-21T00:56:26Z
       
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       @algorev @dtluna @brychan if "people need a superior power over them to do anything viable" (and by that you mean a government), and a government is made of people, then wouldn't the government people also "need a superior power over them to do anything viable"? and then the government's government would also "need a superior power over them to do anything viable". in other words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM