Post 1883395 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
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(DIR) Post #1881601 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T11:06:05Z
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#BrowserWarsI know a lot of people have been saying to use Firefox instead of Chrome or Chromium to fight the monopoly or whatever, but will you really be fighting it if you switch to Firefox? Unless something has changed, Mozilla got 90% of its funding from Google in 2017.
(DIR) Post #1881602 by eloisa@masto.pt
2018-12-10T11:10:17Z
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@poetgrant good question. I've been using Firefox myself because I don't wanna give Google more than I already do and did, but I also sense Firefox isn't exactly the best option here. I'm open for suggestions.
(DIR) Post #1881603 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T11:26:35Z
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@eloisa well I know it is Chromium based, but I like Brave. Heck, I really like Chromium for that matter, minus the Googliness. Brave claims to be Chromium frontend without all the Google stuff and with all of Brave's own code.
(DIR) Post #1881604 by skynebula@mastodon.social
2018-12-10T12:01:33Z
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@poetgrant @eloisa Brave is a trojan horse farming people's data and attention to fuel a freakin' coin...-_-
(DIR) Post #1881605 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T12:21:35Z
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@skynebula @eloisa I haven't seen any data leaks from my system yet. That was actually the first thing I checked since it uses a Chromium frontend. As far as their coin goes, I actually thought it was a great alt idea for funding a website.
(DIR) Post #1881606 by skynebula@mastodon.social
2018-12-10T12:23:51Z
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@poetgrant @eloisa I hate coins (but that's not the point here). This way of funding just demolish their nice little pitch about them being the privacy white knights...
(DIR) Post #1881607 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T12:41:16Z
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@skynebula @eloisa how?
(DIR) Post #1881608 by skynebula@mastodon.social
2018-12-10T12:44:31Z
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@poetgrant @eloisa "You are not the product"...Ah, in fact you are.This privacy browser was just a bait to make people use it, and then convince them to sell their attention for a scam (sorry, a "token")
(DIR) Post #1881609 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T12:52:56Z
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@skynebula @eloisa I could possibly see that, except that it is completely opt-in. I can possibly see it turning 'evil' eventually, but so far the idea behind the token system is very interesting. I doubt it will actually make it to a 1.0 release though. It was not a key selling point of the browser, just an extra 'perk'.
(DIR) Post #1881610 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-12-10T13:25:17.925480Z
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@trawzified @Matter @oreolek @poetgrant@eloisa @skynebulaI would suggest using a browser based on a sanitized version of the chromium projectsI use the qtwebengine based Qutebrowser and FalkonOh and stay away from electron based front ends unless you have a massive amout of RAM
(DIR) Post #1882342 by trawzified@mastodon.social
2018-12-10T13:37:05Z
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@jason @oreolek @poetgrant @eloisa @skynebula @Matter There's also Epiphany, based on WebKitGTK+ but I believe it doesn't fully work with HTML5
(DIR) Post #1882343 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T13:54:47Z
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@trawzified @jason @oreolek @eloisa @skynebula @Matter out of all the browsers, I believe Epiphany is actually my favorite.
(DIR) Post #1882344 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-12-10T14:02:32.731923Z
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@poetgrantI've always really wanted to like GNOME and the projects around it like Epiphany, but the practical experience has never lived up to the idea.I very much prefer KDE-Plasma.@Matter @skynebula @eloisa @oreolek @trawzified
(DIR) Post #1883026 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T14:18:43Z
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@jason as for the GNOME project... I like GTK and the GNOME libs, but I don't really like most of what they produce... I may be trying LXQt soon. I just really miss a pretty desktop.But hot damn Slackware has been blazing fast and extremely easy to use. I never thought it could be this easy to have a Linux that I really enjoy!
(DIR) Post #1883027 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-12-10T14:31:43.361326Z
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@poetgrantLXqt is definitely worth trying, I tend to use it with a different wm than openbox (Ive not been a fan of openbox since its rebase a few years ago) As you like GTK, Have you tried Afterstep? If not have a go It may appeal to you.
(DIR) Post #1883394 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T14:44:22Z
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@jason ah, afterstep hasn't been updated in a while... it is nice for GTK though... it's funny that after all these years GTK hasn't seemed to really changed much.
(DIR) Post #1883395 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-12-10T14:48:58.650140Z
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@poetgrantGnustep/Etoile or Window Maker are (kind of) similar and possibly updated more recentlyAlso there is FVWM... which may keep you busy tweaking
(DIR) Post #1884862 by poetgrant@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T15:05:12Z
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@jason oh, have you tried suckless wm? You just sent me on a search and I didn't know suckless made a wm...
(DIR) Post #1884863 by jason@thesocialmedia.feedbackloo.pw
2018-12-10T16:06:30.778066Z
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@poetgrantDWM is suckless, WMii used to be suckless, but no longer isI included a load of minimal window managers back when I was developing PCLOS-Light Iced-Latte[0] back in my Dev Days [0]https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,95726.0.htmlI did a dedicated WMii edition before that, and an even more minimal Raw version after
(DIR) Post #1885549 by oreolek@icosahedron.website
2018-12-10T11:26:50Z
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@eloisa @poetgrant there're no alternatives left. PaleMoon uses Firefox old engine (Gecko) and lives on Patreon scraps [1], the rest is either Webkit (Safari family) or Blink (Chrome family). Dillo, K-Meleon, lynx, w3m are nowhere near painting you the Masto homepage.[1]: https://www.patreon.com/MoonchildProductions
(DIR) Post #1885550 by eloisa@masto.pt
2018-12-10T11:29:04Z
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@oreolek @poetgrant this is a sad future. :c wasn't there someone on fedi doing a browser too? 🤔
(DIR) Post #1885551 by oreolek@icosahedron.website
2018-12-10T11:32:08Z
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@eloisa @poetgrant i saw @alcinnz working on Memex browser… using code from the new Mozilla engine. Seriously, Patreon scraps.
(DIR) Post #1885552 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-10T16:38:38Z
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@oreolek @eloisa @poetgrant I'm doing both.I'm creating a browser UI for elementary OS and the open decentralized web called "Odysseus". With WebKit & Blink (I'm using the former) it's fairly trivial to get started, but there's still plenty of important features like bookmarks, history, and search integration to implement yourself.The problem is Odysseus does not do much browser diversity concerns. As far as webdevs are concerned, it's basically just Safari.
(DIR) Post #1885859 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-10T16:52:55Z
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@oreolek @eloisa @poetgrant So yes, I've just started Memex. I've already got an XHTML parser working well on one particular page!Have no illusions - it won't be able to compete with Blink or even WebKit and Gecko. There'll be way too many broken pages.What it can do is establish a strong alternative vision for the web, get that vision taken more seriously, and hopefully push others to take it further.I will be begging for help with it.
(DIR) Post #1886053 by mooshoe@fosstodon.org
2018-12-10T16:26:32Z
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@poetgrant I just use firefox because its better
(DIR) Post #1887023 by eloisa@masto.pt
2018-12-10T17:36:29Z
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@alcinnz @oreolek @poetgrant I'll be boosting to help!