Post 1796685 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
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(DIR) Post #1796197 by UnclearFuture@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-12-07T08:45:15Z
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So what with the new Australian Law and GCHQ wanting to use ‘virtual crocodile clips’ does that mean I have to give up communicating with anyone digitally even on things previously thought of as ‘safe’ such as Wire?If so, what do we do next?If not how can we know that even source apps are secure considering they can be /compelled/ to put things in without letting us know and without fixing bugs/improving security to disallow security agencies or risk having their apps/services disallowed?Where can we go to find apps not usually allowed if they don’t comply or will the government make state level blocking/rerouting mandatory for these apps/services?
(DIR) Post #1796198 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-07T08:50:44Z
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@UnclearFuture In one word: journalism.Don't take the developers' word for it that something's secure, either review the source code yourself and/or find someone independent you do trust.
(DIR) Post #1796685 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-12-07T09:15:47.195805Z
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@UnclearFutureDon't take any single party's word for it, and use software only. On top of those, things like reproducible builds can help you identify complie time trickery, preferably build things yourself.
(DIR) Post #1797305 by UnclearFuture@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-12-07T09:47:03Z
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@alcinnzHow does one get into learning how to read and actually program code? I'd really like to but I'm not sure where to start.Good answers, thank you :)
(DIR) Post #1804175 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-07T16:03:49Z
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@UnclearFuture There's numerous tutorials online and off. Though I think I can do better than most of them, and with a new language spend less time giving a deeper understanding. It's one of the two projects I've started recently.But the good news once you've learnt one or two languages it's easy to read the others, writing on the otherhand...
(DIR) Post #1804268 by UnclearFuture@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-12-07T16:06:31Z
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@alcinnz Thank you for the reply :)So would you recommend something like code academy or solo learn in learning to read them at the very least? I tried those once and they're very good for their hands on nature, at least in teaching the linux command line/bash shell.
(DIR) Post #1804594 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-07T16:21:09Z
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@UnclearFuture Yes, from what I can tell they're very good options. Not that I know how to compare, and the hands on nature isn't rare.
(DIR) Post #1804651 by UnclearFuture@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-12-07T16:23:40Z
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@alcinnzAh, thank you.Hmmm, perhaps not, but I've not come across many tutorials which put you into a coding envrionment with lots of hand holding right there on a screen, usually it's from a book, I was impressed when I first used one of those sites (forget which one now) and it walked me very gently through each step.That particular hands on approach I personally haven't seen in many places.
(DIR) Post #1804982 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-07T16:40:08Z
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@UnclearFuture Oh, it's worth adding there doesn't tend to be much code for most of the software we use. Given the skills it doesn't take too much to review them.But there's lots of code in our most used software in our most used software like operating systems, browsers, and office suites.Also understanding encryption code is it's own skills, the most I can do is see how it's being used. But thankfully most attacks do not target the encryption itself.
(DIR) Post #1805010 by UnclearFuture@mastodon.starrevolution.org
2018-12-07T16:42:16Z
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@alcinnzThank you, I didn't realise that about most things we use, but I guess it makes sense, libraries and image viewers don't need a /lot/ of code, I would imagine.Yeah, doesn't encryption code require a good deal of advanced mathematics?
(DIR) Post #1805221 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-12-07T16:53:08Z
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@UnclearFuture Yes, with encryption I can explain basically what math they usually use and what characteristics they look for. Plenty have done so. But I have to defer to others to prove that that maths has those characteristics.