Post 1773823 by lilo@mastodonten.de
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(DIR) Post #1737434 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T09:58:45.619464Z
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🎺 🎺 This is an important PSA, if you're having trouble this Christmas season in telling if a toy is for boys or girls simply follow this simple guide:If you operate the toy with your genitalia then the toy is not for children, otherwise it's for either girls or boys.
(DIR) Post #1737625 by m4iler@infosec.exchange
2018-12-05T10:08:31Z
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@carbontwelveAlso, I would like to add: ASK THE KID WHAT THE FUCK IT WANTS!It's not like they don't have wishes of their own or anything!
(DIR) Post #1737771 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T10:14:58.535094Z
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@m4iler 100% this, my daughter currently loves all things train and digger related so you can imagine what her Christmas theme is this year 🙂
(DIR) Post #1749290 by erosdiscordia@radical.town
2018-12-05T20:04:14Z
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@carbontwelve Last year, when I did seasonal work at Target, nobody ever wanted to work the toys section, because it's a mess filled with whining children. So I took it over as my little gender-bending kingdom.I had to be subtle, because this was suburban Ohio, but I did as much praxis as I could. If someone asked me if a boy would like it, I said yes. If someone asked me if a girl would like it, I said yes.
(DIR) Post #1749291 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T20:06:39.932963Z
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@erosdiscordia your good people.
(DIR) Post #1749557 by AzureKingfisher@mastodonten.de
2018-12-05T20:09:49Z
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@erosdiscordia @carbontwelve whenever I deal with other parents, what happens a lot, I have to deal with this gendered toys and clothing stuff and it makes me mad. "I need a shirt in 104 for a boy". People gendering my kid as a boy when she's playing with cars and as a girl when she's playing with her doll.
(DIR) Post #1749558 by erosdiscordia@radical.town
2018-12-05T20:11:50Z
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@AzureKingfisher @carbontwelve That must be maddening.Does something happen to parents when they have a kid, that makes the parents so anxious about gender, in you observation? Or are they always like that as people, and parenting brings it out?
(DIR) Post #1749559 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T20:21:28.999579Z
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@erosdiscordia @AzureKingfisher interestingly enough I have noticed a gender neutral trend in the parenting groups I am aware of. It feels as though it's like a backlash against the marketed engendering of things but it could just be localised to where I live.Personally I think parents being anxious about gender are projecting their own anxieties onto their children. However while it saddens me, I can understand given that we live in a world where there is a lot of pressure to conform the fear of going against the grain and being labelled a "bad parent" can be debilitating.
(DIR) Post #1749787 by AzureKingfisher@mastodonten.de
2018-12-05T20:32:51Z
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@erosdiscordia @carbontwelve it's more that they're always like that. Some parents aren't and sometimes it happens that they talk that way and change their minds after I talk to them. Usually I don't have the energy when it's not somebody close.
(DIR) Post #1749899 by erosdiscordia@radical.town
2018-12-05T20:26:47Z
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@carbontwelve @AzureKingfisher That makes a lot of sense, and is heartening to hear.Honestly I feel like it would take so much pressure off parents to hold off on the extreme gendering of their children. But it's like a herd-immunity thing -- most parents would have to do it, for it to "take" properly. And who has the reserves right now to be among the first?I remember my mom didn't much worry about my being "girly" enough until we moved to a more traditional city.
(DIR) Post #1749900 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T20:37:44.314269Z
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@erosdiscordia @AzureKingfisher Yeah, I think there is a lot more information and support for parents now (in my experience) to allow your child to become their own person. As an example of how silly things are: the blue for boys, pink for girls is a relatively recent introduction to western culture coming about originally in the 1940s. Prior to that for centuries children of all gender wore white dresses from birth up until around the age three.Thanks in part due to the woman's liberation movement of the 60s and 70s gender neutral children's colours became the fashion but that only lasted until the 80s when thanks to the invention of prenatal testing people could outfit their nursery with the "appropriate" colour. Marketing companies jumped on that as a way to sell gendered things to parents and that has remained the status quo until relatively recently. I am unsure why the trend is more towards the gender neutral today, or even if outside my personal experience there is any trend in that direction at all.Sorry if this is too long a toot, I believe strongly in this subject and so its something I have researched academically.
(DIR) Post #1749913 by Julia_Schmeer@mastodonten.de
2018-12-05T20:36:31Z
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@erosdiscordia @carbontwelve @AzureKingfisher This is a topic near and dear to my heart. But my english is not good enough for my unfinished and ongoing thoughts.My 1st child was always read as a "baby boy" - since I got a lot of secondhand green clothes, I wasn't surprised. But people told me 'it's the hair'. My 2nd also had that dark baby hair & wore the same clothes I already had. People complimented on the sweet girl, 'because of the hair'..
(DIR) Post #1750122 by larrydavis@radical.town
2018-12-05T20:46:49Z
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@erosdiscordia @carbontwelve did you see this new thing about McDonalds no longer gendering its happy meal toys? it's a step in the right direction, at least
(DIR) Post #1750300 by erosdiscordia@radical.town
2018-12-05T20:46:19Z
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@Julia_Schmeer @carbontwelve @AzureKingfisherI would be interested in what advice you'd give a non-parent to help this trend along? Besides buying gender neutral gifts, etc.
(DIR) Post #1750301 by carbontwelve@d20hero.club
2018-12-05T20:55:43.289390Z
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@erosdiscordia i'm not sure if you're asking myself or @Julia_Schmeer or both 😋 I'd personally ask the child what they want, my little one from the time she could walk would be able to go up to a toy she wanted and ask for it.@AzureKingfisher
(DIR) Post #1750313 by Julia_Schmeer@mastodonten.de
2018-12-05T20:54:48Z
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@erosdiscordia Besides showing kids living examples of gnc/nb/trans lives?! 😊I myself feel at loss what people should give to my kids - they already have so much...I always try to find something that doesn't send stereotypical messages. Maybe it is bright and shiny and princessy but shows girls actually 'doing' things. People try to give us genderneutral books and still in there boys 'do' things, girls just watch. @carbontwelve @AzureKingfisher
(DIR) Post #1767888 by AzureKingfisher@mastodonten.de
2018-12-06T11:32:29Z
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@carbontwelve @erosdiscordia no, it's not local. We've got the trend as well but it's simply not enough and there are too many parents still wanting to buy (second hand) blue or pink stuff for their kids and even give away the "girl"stuff from their first child to buy "boy"stuff for the second.
(DIR) Post #1768801 by AzureKingfisher@mastodonten.de
2018-12-06T11:45:32Z
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@erosdiscordia @Julia_Schmeer @carbontwelve do you want to get rich? ;-) Produce girl's underwear with cars, dinosaurs, star wars, monsters and all that stuff they cannot have yet. I don't have any other advice, sorry.
(DIR) Post #1773823 by lilo@mastodonten.de
2018-12-06T15:05:41Z
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@erosdiscordia @Julia_Schmeer @carbontwelve @AzureKingfisher One insight: Buying gender neutral does not help. I arrived at the family of a friend with really nice gender neutral toys as gifts. But the thing the girls there really got excited about was the tractor collection my child had brought along. The real gift was the heavily used green John Deere we gave them when we left.
(DIR) Post #1773834 by AzureKingfisher@mastodonten.de
2018-12-06T15:08:07Z
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@lilo @erosdiscordia @Julia_Schmeer @carbontwelve that sounds like a great gift. My friends 4 year old son got bullied at the local playground because he wore his pink dress. At home it's all like he can wear and play with everything and when he gets out there's society.
(DIR) Post #1877783 by rhonda@chaos.social
2018-12-07T08:49:25Z
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@carbontwelve I can wholeheartly sign this. Unfortunately the mini HiFi station that I thought might make sense for my kid is available in two colors: pink or cyan. #RosaHellblauFalle I (read: also my kid) would so much like to have a green or orange one instead.
(DIR) Post #1934370 by el_joa@mastodon.social
2018-12-12T15:41:47Z
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@erosdiscordia @Julia_Schmeer @carbontwelve @AzureKingfisher My post https://mastodon.social/@el_joa/101228809198526295 was inspired by your question:Rough translation: if there's a notice somewhere seeking "strong men", take out your pen and add "and/or women" or replace “men” with "humans".