Post 1539049 by p@freespeechextremist.com
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(DIR) Post #1513121 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-26T21:51:37.053671Z
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I find it humorous that FSE won't tolerate any degeneracy, but has a soft spot for a bunch of lewd lolis. It's a beautiful world we live in.
(DIR) Post #1513194 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T21:54:55.571924Z
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@borgerfrog You confuse one person posts with policy at a Free speech instance.
(DIR) Post #1513294 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T22:00:19.181187Z
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@borgerfrog All manner of degeneracy is allowed here, even gay frogs, but lewd lolis are against the rules and have, to my knowledge, never appeared on this server. Where do you get these ideas, man?
(DIR) Post #1513487 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T22:06:23.460793Z
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@p @borgerfrog Okay even though this will bring out the imbecilic boomer references. WTF is a LOLi? Pedo Porn?
(DIR) Post #1513712 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-26T22:17:30.569759Z
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@p just a joke. Referring to how well some people over at FSE get along well with the people at smuglo.li
(DIR) Post #1513719 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-26T22:17:53.729905Z
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@kjv1611 @p I'm sure it's happened.
(DIR) Post #1514062 by BrutustheBritish@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T22:33:00.987635Z
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@kjv1611 @p @borgerfrog makes me want to come back
(DIR) Post #1514694 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T22:56:39.552635Z
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@borgerfrog Sorry, another admin had accused FSE of hosting loli when I was the only user on here, plus I'm some kind of turbo-sperg internet idiot. :brandt:
(DIR) Post #1514724 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T22:57:45.858394Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog Yeah, it's one of those round-trip words. "Lolita Complex" went to Japan, became "lolicon", which then became a byword for drawings of toddlers suckin' dick, and that came back to the internet-Anglosphere as "loli".
(DIR) Post #1514803 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T23:00:11.497942Z
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@p @borgerfrog Oh yeah. I can see that being banned. AS fanatic as Free speech guy as I am I get that.
(DIR) Post #1515311 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T23:23:14.095845Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog It appears to be legal grey area in the US, per my in-depth research (some people call it "Looking at the WIkipedia article"). The judge in one case based his ruling on the fact that the comics had no artistic, scientific, didactic, or political value.So this triptych by Hans Memling, "Vanity and Salvation", technically includes a naked teenage girl, but I'm pretty sure no one would prohibit it. No one but the most dedicated fans of moral triptychs is jackin' off to this.(I like it for a number of reasons, but the stupidest reason is that it is an image depicting the internet. Here's a skull, here's a naked teenage girl looking in a mirror, here's the devil, there are dogs, there's a dragon. Throw in some pictures of food and 80 guys waggling their penises at the girl and/or the dragon and this picture contains the entire internet.)Memling_Vanity_and_Salvation.jp…
(DIR) Post #1515523 by thelastgunslinger@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T23:33:29.067507Z
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@p @supergrover6868 @borgerfrog I'll say again for anyone who gives a shit: Loli porn is better than the real thing. I've seen it on the fediverse. I just don't care. It's not a big deal.
(DIR) Post #1515559 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T23:34:36.776611Z
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@p @borgerfrog I am no law expert but I dont like the Value judgment ruling . Its subjective IMO. Funny thing, a major mag, People I think, included Brooke shields pics done in the 70's when she was under age. I guess cause it was news information it was allowed. IN fact there an old hammer movies that do not get censored and a have an actress below 18 and full frontal in a scene. Grandfathered in I guess. From my personal perspective whatever floats your boat is okay as long as no real people are harmed. But I can understand the need to cover your ass and make the call to ban it.The shit here on the verse being posted so frequently in such high volume though, Creeps me out.
(DIR) Post #1515608 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-26T23:36:48.338693Z
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@kjv1611 @p @supergrover6868 @thelastgunslinger i will never understand while depictions of killing people (an illegal act, i think we will agree) like movies and games, ect. are allowed, but loli isn't. I don't get the logic here.
(DIR) Post #1515945 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T23:53:12.935035Z
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@borgerfrog @kjv1611 @p @thelastgunslinger Yes I concur. Same with profanity. IE old Die Hard 2 was filled with gunfire and destruction as well has profanity. When played on TV its so heavily edited for profanity the dialogue doesn't even make sense in places. I believe that Parents should be responsible for guiding kids and keeping them off things they deem unsuitable instead of Goverment censoring any of it, save actual child exploitation. In fact I think real world events being censored because of xterm gore should not be. People need to see the real effects of warfare and Terrorist activity in vivid detail, IMO
(DIR) Post #1517851 by TedTV@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T01:11:09.158368Z
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@supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog not your personal Google, Boomer.
(DIR) Post #1519039 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:06:24.241604Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog It'd be nice if there were some sort of clearer standard, certainly. I don't especially like it, but I also don't have any better ideas.
(DIR) Post #1519089 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:08:52.703845Z
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@borgerfrog @kjv1611 @supergrover6868 @thelastgunslinger I think it's got to do with visceral reactions more than with clear legal reasoning, same as the bans on sex dolls that are child-proportioned.
(DIR) Post #1519160 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:11:17.654435Z
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@p @borgerfrog Yeah but I also have a low opinion of Law and Judges these days so I think maybe this grey area is better then the Feds ruling heavily against the premise of Freedom and Constitutionality as they have been doing allot of lately as I see it.Or we can do that one thing all these weenie Larper Nazis mock me for wanting to do and have a Goverment run by sane citizens instead of corrupt career politicians. *cue fife and drum music*
(DIR) Post #1519204 by TedTV@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:14:14.969434Z
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@kjv1611 @p @borgerfrog @supergrover6868 @thelastgunslinger You sure about that? https://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2010/04/porn-actress-saves-wrongfully-accused-.html
(DIR) Post #1519241 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:16:45.830293Z
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@p @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger Yep even pedophilia, as awful as it is, can create overreaction in America as I see it.
(DIR) Post #1519247 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:16:59.718586Z
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@kjv1611 @supergrover6868 @borgerfrog When I become Extreme Ridiculous God-Edition Dictator of Earth, I'll unambiguously legalize the lolis. I'll do it before I nuke the moon, but after declaring Topless Tuesdays.(Look, I don't think anyone ought to become Extreme Ridiculous God-Edition Dictator of Earth, but if by some bizarre twist of fate we do get one and it happens to be me, I'm going to have some fucking fun before I institute Global Ancapistan.)
(DIR) Post #1519496 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T02:29:44.005140Z
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@kjv1611 @p @supergrover6868 this kept popping up in my reccomended but ive been ignoring it because i figured it was your everyday "hurr durr capitalism bad!" Shit. More funny that is was expecting
(DIR) Post #1519616 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T02:34:00.109239Z
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@kjv1611 @p @supergrover6868 i loved the Sprawl trilogy.
(DIR) Post #1519777 by thelastgunslinger@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T02:42:05.464224Z
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@supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog @kjv1611 Pedophiles should be skinned alive in the public square. Loli porn is a drawing, and harms no one. I don't give a shit about it.
(DIR) Post #1520680 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T03:28:59.837307Z
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@thelastgunslinger @supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog @kjv1611 This is some middle age witch-hunt talk. Pedophilia is a fucking disorder and no one knows how to cure it. What you meant to say is probably child sex offender which surprise surprise are not subset of pedophile, or vise versa, not even close.
(DIR) Post #1520744 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T03:31:23.582104Z
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@tleydxdy @thelastgunslinger @p @borgerfrog @kjv1611 You NAMBLA loving baby raping freak. You are fucking disgusting.
(DIR) Post #1520769 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T03:32:12.965112Z
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@kjv1611 @tleydxdy @thelastgunslinger @supergrover6868 @p >implying people with certain mental disorders shouldn't be hunted down.
(DIR) Post #1520782 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T03:32:45.893713Z
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@kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog my biggest problem with witch hunting is it didn't fucking work
(DIR) Post #1520797 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T03:33:45.907287Z
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@tleydxdy @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p @borgerfrog Peadophila is a predatory sexual behavior against the innocent. People that do are nothing but monsters.
(DIR) Post #1521146 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T03:51:30.508469Z
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@borgerfrog @kjv1611 @tleydxdy @thelastgunslinger @p Mental Health support is bad in US and there needs more help in that realm but theer is no justifying the exploitation of Children. ""I cant help it" is not an excuse.
(DIR) Post #1521256 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T03:55:57.382263Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p then call them as what they are, child sex offender.
(DIR) Post #1521274 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T03:56:51.865939Z
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@tleydxdy @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p Pedophiles. do not deserve one Ounce of sympathy
(DIR) Post #1521396 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:01:56.330116Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p if you don't call cancer patients corpses, don't call pedophiles criminals.
(DIR) Post #1521421 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:03:08.894262Z
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@tleydxdy @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p The are evil pedophiles I will not be brow beaten into your soft language speak for horrid monsters
(DIR) Post #1521509 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:07:49.730981Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p This is not some language thing. You want pedophiles to go to a doctor and get the disorder diagnosed with out getting their live destroyed doing so. It's the only effective way to find out about likely child sex offenders. If you treat them as criminals before they commit any. They will need to hide themselves and cannot get any outside help.
(DIR) Post #1521572 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:10:35.926263Z
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@tleydxdy @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p Yeah it totally is., They are criminals and need to be put into institutions just like other mental whacked criminals. Coddling them Enables them, and once down that path then Bleeding hearts start trying to legalize it.
(DIR) Post #1521589 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:11:41.157689Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @thelastgunslinger @p what other mental whacked criminals?
(DIR) Post #1521599 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:13:13.400498Z
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@tleydxdy https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/criminally-insane/
(DIR) Post #1521621 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:14:04.266498Z
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@supergrover6868 "who admits the criminal act", which is not the topic here
(DIR) Post #1521722 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:20:32.925402Z
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@tleydxdy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson example of Criminal nutcase. Pedophiles are all Like that. . If they volunteer for treatment before attacking a Kid then they should be put in a Institution. If they harm a kid and lucky enough to get a insane ruling they are put in same. In Both cases those institutions should be secure mental wards. One wing for Guilty, one wing for Innocent but BOTH guarded.
(DIR) Post #1521834 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:26:20.330691Z
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@supergrover6868 you are not providing any real example, Charles Manson "he was caught stealing a gun", "rob a grocery store and a casino" so again, already criminal.
(DIR) Post #1521947 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:32:31.747968Z
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@tleydxdy He had a criminal record from youth. He also was batshit crazy and talked people into cutting a child of her mothers womb, and murdering three others brutally. That's a whacked out criminal. There are mental words in prisons for guys like him. Pedophiles belong in them too if they are lucky enough to get get a Insanity conviction. If a pedophile that has not attacked a child volunteers they can go to same place in a wing that is less prison like but in the same secure facility. For the Public Good because they are dangerous monsters that prey on kids.
(DIR) Post #1521989 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:35:01.304913Z
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@supergrover6868 so, where's the example for putting people in prison due to other mental illness only, without them already committed any crime?
(DIR) Post #1522020 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:37:32.147401Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog :alexjonesmad: THE FIFE AND DRUM SHIT REALLY GETS ME GOING :alexjonesmad:1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0n_kwO6j1o
(DIR) Post #1522103 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:42:54.348125Z
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@kjv1611 @borgerfrog @supergrover6868 @thelastgunslinger ...Seconded. :putin_wink:
(DIR) Post #1522156 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:47:36.105840Z
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@p @borgerfrog Alex is just the New Morton Downy Junior. Though he has been surprisingly correct on many predictions.As far as any mockery of the Founders I find it abhorrent and ill conceived nonsense. I remain completely confident that the only proper direction of the nation is a return those Principles and a full restoration all Rights. no caveat or exceptions.
(DIR) Post #1522172 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:48:57.430450Z
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@supergrover6868 @p i dont even like alex jones, but i could march to this.
(DIR) Post #1522216 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:51:18.108563Z
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@tleydxdy There isn't one. I want them in a secure institution, the ones that have not acted on impulse but have volunteered would be in a less prison like wing of that institution but it would be guarded and they aren't getting out.
(DIR) Post #1522227 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:51:58.509728Z
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@supergrover6868 > canDoes pretty regularly. This whole "human trafficking" thing that they've been using for some recent pieces of legislation is horrifying. I'm pretty sure you remember the whole "Satanist pedophile cults" hysteria in the 80s.Luckily, no one believes that any more. :alexjones: ...Right? :alexjonessmile:
(DIR) Post #1522255 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:54:02.419934Z
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@p Human trafficking is very real and horrid. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-arrested-after-8-women-held-luxury-georgia-home-human-n731871
(DIR) Post #1522280 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:56:21.696832Z
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@kjv1611 @supergrover6868 @borgerfrog 30 seconds in and I love it.Capitalism-chan approves!THIS.jpg
(DIR) Post #1522315 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T04:58:07.977649Z
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@p @kjv1611 @borgerfrog Pretty but cant get turned on by anything remotely clown related.
(DIR) Post #1522337 by borgerfrog@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:59:01.074182Z
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@supergrover6868 @p @kjv1611 i on the other hand love clowns.
(DIR) Post #1522343 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T04:59:21.493016Z
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@supergrover6868 I will not comment on what should happen because it's pointless. But for them to "volunteer" i.e. seek a doctor. They need to be not treated like criminals. Depression, of all mental illness, even have problems with people seeking help. Calling them criminals will not help. You need them to seek out, not destroying their life before they do anything harmful, as if that will solve the problem.
(DIR) Post #1522394 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:01:35.761910Z
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@tleydxdy They are always criminals if you dont treat them as such that opens the door to Bleeding hearts to legitimize and soften laws against that kind of perversion. The case they make is they have no control. Then they must be removed from public so those impulses do not destroy a child's life
(DIR) Post #1522402 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:02:01.451091Z
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@borgerfrog @p @kjv1611 I dont hate them just cant get into banging one.
(DIR) Post #1522472 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T05:06:38.787249Z
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@supergrover6868 slippery slope argument carries no weight. and in case you don't know, pedophiles don't have freckles, what's you plan on "removing" them? publicly yelling "I will put you all in jail", and they will come out?
(DIR) Post #1522566 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:12:11.205079Z
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@tleydxdy Yes you cannot Identify them so you must jail them after they have harmed somebody is harmed because they are predators of children and deserve no sympathy for those acts whatsoever.
(DIR) Post #1522588 by tleydxdy@pl.smuglo.li
2018-11-27T05:13:08.777750Z
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@supergrover6868 hot take "we must jail sex offenders".
(DIR) Post #1522610 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:14:33.944162Z
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@tleydxdy Pedophiles.. yes they are monsters and should be in a cage .
(DIR) Post #1523292 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:54:37.442716Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog I don't think anyone's above mockery, most especially people that other people think are above mockery.:alexjones: Alex Jones is the dankest meme ever to slap iron, sir. :gayfrog::gadsen: I'm with you on the hard-core Constitution situation, but I think there are some social changes that need to be rolled back somewhat for it to be plausible.If you look at de Tocqueville's description of Americans, specifically how people treated their neighbors, you get a very different picture than you get if you go out and look yourself today. There's one example, right. I'd love to completely dismantle all welfare programs. I don't think you can do it unless people go back to caring about their neighbors. Most people don't know their neighbors' names. And then you've got the problem of what to do with Mississippi. There's no money in Mississippi. You cut federal aid today, it turns into Libya tomorrow.I'm on board. I don't think it can happen top-down like that, though.
(DIR) Post #1523303 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T05:56:04.753523Z
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@borgerfrog @supergrover6868 It's a fun song, but I more regularly bump Placeboing's mixes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8
(DIR) Post #1523378 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T06:02:13.208696Z
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@supergrover6868 Yeah, I know it does. I live in LA. On a pretty regular basis, a shipping container full of dead Vietnamese girls turns up in Long Beach. As we speak, there's a Saudi prince in a straight-up palatial home in Orange County that is beating the hell out of a woman he literally owns with a truncheon because his favorite soccer team lost.The fact that it does happen and is terrible means that it is used as an unquestionable shield to force through legislation that has nothing to do with human trafficking in reality. The knee-jerk "It's very real and horrid!" reaction is exactly why the tactic works.
(DIR) Post #1523395 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T06:03:02.657368Z
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@supergrover6868 @kjv1611 @borgerfrog I didn't get turned on, either...until she told me she accepts bitcoin.
(DIR) Post #1523415 by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2018-11-27T06:03:53Z
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@p @borgerfrog @supergrover6868 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eooXNd0heM
(DIR) Post #1524860 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T07:47:36.565240Z
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@p So whats the legislation in question|?
(DIR) Post #1524888 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T07:50:01.345656Z
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@supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog If Muslims are allowed to stay under the protection of the first amendment they will eventually become a major terror threat and attempt a takeover, even if we cut off immigration today.Any policy that would prevent it will run afoul of the US Constitution.I suggest having a brief dictatorship, expelling Muslims, and adding anti-immigration language to the Constitution, then returning to normalcy.
(DIR) Post #1525158 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T08:08:07.765048Z
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@p @borgerfrog Frogs are raging hypocrites, they have fought to maintain an Empire as recently as mid 1950s. They run guns to numerous countries, have maintain awful off shore island prisons. Asjust a few examples.de Tocqueville's one of many used to justify calling for White guilt. Obama;'s farewell address indicated to me that this war on whites was coming. On one hand there's talk of tolerance and togetherness as long as whites admit this guilt and tear down existing Structure., At that point its no longer America. Equality would be not considering race at all. Instead many especially leftist want vengeance in name of "tolerance." The past is politically convenient in come cases and discounted when not. This race shit has to stop. The left using it to benefit politically and they care not for the damage it has Caused . Only a few year previous to all this, the media where talking about how race relations were improving. This race obsession is setting us back decades. It has to stop.
(DIR) Post #1526971 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T10:17:46.453044Z
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@supergrover6868 FOSTA-SESTA was a transparent erosion of Safe Harbor provisions for anyone hosting third-party content, and the wording targets prostitution (without defining the term) rather than actual trafficking. The Safe Harbor provisions are central to free speech.Here in California, the CASE Act (Prop 35, 2012) passed with a record 81% of the vote. It was a bill designed (explicitly) to crack down on on prostitution (and less explicitly, to increase the budget for the LA District Attorney's Office and secondarily the budgets of local law enforcement offices and sheriff's departments). How'd it get 81% of the vote? It was sold as an anti-trafficking law, though it actually broadened the definition of "trafficking". Had the campaign been explicit about Prop 35's purpose, or had the bill been worded less deceptively, they might not have had quite as easy a win.That's the two more recent ones off the top of my head. It's more often a tactic to sell a different agenda than it is the actual target.
(DIR) Post #1527451 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T10:56:11.164302Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog In that case, it's lucky for me that it doesn't matter if a frog wrote it, or who used it to justify anything. In fact, I don't even need to worry about de Tocqueville's portrayal of anything to make my argument.
(DIR) Post #1527461 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T10:56:58.118811Z
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@kjv1611 @supergrover6868 @borgerfrog Well, I did say "people".
(DIR) Post #1534238 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T16:52:21.363911Z
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@p @borgerfrog Ok. But come on Frogs love to bash the Americans. Its true
(DIR) Post #1534775 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T17:16:21.415733Z
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@p I see. Yeah marketing and lies. Like calling the Spying and 4th Amendment violation the Patriot Act. . The price of liberty is eternal vigilance" Not just about going all blazing muskets on the Feds. Its about holding dick cheeses to account for that kind of shit. Very hard to do in today's modern life with the ratt race. That can be where your know neighbors thing can come in. People got to get more involved off the net.
(DIR) Post #1537078 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:14:06.945504Z
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@supergrover6868 @borgerfrog Eh, it's like a chihuahua country.
(DIR) Post #1537150 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:17:04.980271Z
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@p Oh Im on the trail of something. Do you know about DNS hijcaking? I mean in theory IM no hacker. I am so old My first computer course was on a PET.
(DIR) Post #1537156 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:17:20.469331Z
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@supergrover6868 One of the issues with the proposition system in CA. For example, a law reducing the amount of space chickens have in their cages passed (I think it was 60% yes), but it was labeled as a save-the-chickens thing.I think anyone who gives a damn about how chickens feel must have never met a chicken. They're basically land-fish. Chicken should count as a vegetable.
(DIR) Post #1537184 by harmlessgryphon@sealion.club
2018-11-27T19:17:41+00:00
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@p Chickens are a type of potato. As a half-bird, I approve this message.
(DIR) Post #1537238 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:21:53.262761Z
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@supergrover6868 I do know about it. What about it?
(DIR) Post #1537306 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:25:29.035806Z
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@p I guess explain what I saw would be the clearest way. I saw content from a url that was not its legitimate contanet. 99 percent sure of that. But All Tracing and inspection I could do. Showed that it was absolutely not from a spoofed url or anything of that nature.
(DIR) Post #1537603 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:43:09.115912Z
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@supergrover6868 DNS hijacking is generally a pretty improbable vector.You can do a sort of indirect sanity check by using one of the screenshot services or BrowserStack or passing the URL to archive.is or something, that'll help determine if it's a local issue. In situations like this, my first guess is usually that you've got Windows and your computer has contracted ad-AIDS of some sort.
(DIR) Post #1537610 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:43:23.430084Z
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@p Well maybe posing the question better. What way could a person distribute bogus content from a URL without any spoofing or URL redirection? I would have to have access to the server locally or remotely right? See what append was I saw shit coming from UK Newspapers that HAD to be bullshit. But when I DNS tracked it and Trace routed it. It came up as the actual Website in question. Whereas in other examples I could find that it was a spoofed version and not the actual newspaper site. The easiest one to find has a bogus spood was when I clicked on Contact us link and Got Rick Rolled. Another Sent me to some Kekistainian shit.
(DIR) Post #1537800 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T19:53:25.229180Z
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@supergrover6868 Sometimes a site gets hacked.To do that, you'd need to control the DNS and if it was HTTPS, also the local root certificates. Or do something to your browser. Or get control of the pipeline at any point between your computer and the remote machine. Or they could get the remote machine.If they were rickrolling you, probably some kid was taking the server for a joyride.
(DIR) Post #1537928 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:00:52.533151Z
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@p Yes, thats it. IN come cases it was easy to see that it was just dicking around in others I could not verify through similar means as you suggested that it was not the coming from the actual UK source. I contact the Papers in question to see if they would admit to be hacked. I could blown of by Snobby Brits that would not answer any questions. My conclusion is that the newspapers or employees were actually disturbing this stuff from the actual source or their equipment was hacked. But if your shit was hacked and BS stories were put out you'd think a retraction would be printed or at the very least the stories in question would be taken down. Neither occurred. Another odd thing was that all the shit I saw from sources claiming to be sputnik, The Frog chick Le pens people, and the UK stuff all had colors that did not match their corresponding real versions of them. I checked using HTML color codes.
(DIR) Post #1538104 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:07:57.077220Z
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@p ONe other thing. I understand that DNS control would be needed. This is why I am wary of the Russian hacking claims as the US claims Russia hacked ICANN presumably with the intention of masking their operations, yet when I DNS checked all Sputnik shit when right to thier intel HQ agency address. So either somebody wants that Russian conclusion drawn or FSB are retarded and cant cover their tracks and that;s hard to believe
(DIR) Post #1538159 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:09:54.337716Z
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@supergrover6868 No, usual news site SOP for these kinds of things are to just act like it never happened. Usually the impact is brief.
(DIR) Post #1538400 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:21:00.676101Z
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@p Okay yet the US Govt has made the Russia thing out to be the appoclypse. But yes the impact is meanigless. I chated on election for hour with a Russia INsider account over Yahoo messaging on that channel. The stuff spouted was absurd and the conduct of the account chatter was that of any Child troll. I had 4 other such conversations in a 48 hours period. All of it was just absurd dippshitery. The one that came closest to any semablence of sanity was a Pro Russian Ukrainian that was all hard on about the Donbass Battle and the Pro Russian Militia. The idea this nonsense had any election impact is just asinine. I believe the majority of that the US claims to be Russian was in fact Kekistanian trolling and hacking. AS I said in several cases that was clear as it came up as such.
(DIR) Post #1538636 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:31:57.185267Z
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@supergrover6868 FSB isn't Mossad. They're way sloppier than that, or you'd probably never have heard of Litvinenko or Politkovskaya.Which ICANN hack are you talking about? I don't think any of the root servers were compromised.They wouldn't need to hijack the DNS servers if they had the web server, and for these little operations, usually the SOP is to not acknowledge it.
(DIR) Post #1538785 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:39:48.247345Z
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@p Well The British stuff was the hardest to find out about. But even in that case the Hue of the color of the websites was not correct. That and the content was the only thing I could see that let me to suspect it. Thats why when Chris Steel came out along with Media claims of UK support and confrontation of "Russian hacking" I suspect "her Majesty's Secret Service" was involved as well.I am familiar with the people you mentioned. I am not American by birth. I am German Dual Citizen. I dont trust or care for Russian goverment but, having witnessed so much first hand a week prior to, and the night of the election I am not buying it. I have called 25 senators, and 6 congressmen offices about this issue repeatedly since dec 2016. I archived lots of stuff. Nobody wants to see any of it.
(DIR) Post #1538854 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:44:33.142763Z
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@p And as far as the Russian activists. The Film that You tube so desperately tried to censor is back up. I watched it is supicious. That said, Browser is also shady. I also continue to wonder why Sputnik People have White house acccess and American working for Sputnik continue to operate and attack Bill Browder with no mention of it in media and no attempts by US to end it. The name of the Guy going after browder on Sputnik is Lee Stranahan https://twitter.com/stranahan?lang=en
(DIR) Post #1539049 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:52:53.388707Z
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@supergrover6868 The Russia propaganda operation is well-documented, though. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=1As far as the impact on the election, it was probably within roundoff. The majority of Trump voters don't even have Twitter or Facebook accounts.
(DIR) Post #1539175 by folk@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T20:56:12.622294Z
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@p @supergrover6868 >The Russia propaganda operation is well-documentedYou're embarrassing yourself in an argument with a 75 IQ boomer. Please stop, it hurts to watch. :putin_wat:PutinYW.jpg
(DIR) Post #1539280 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:00:49.862237Z
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@p I dont but that in anyway shape or form. MSM is not credible and what I have experienced and documented makes those claims absolute bullshit. There is a reality going on that cannot credibly be discounted by the utterance of the phrase "Conspiracy theory." The left take to the Mccarthyist nonsense as it further their domestic political goals and the youth take to it as they are convinced they know more then others, and are wrong about that. Leftists hate vast swaths of the population due to race, or geographical location yet claim to be tolerant, they are hypocrites and their desire to tear down the system is just pure impotent rage, it will not better society at all. Returning to true Representative government without lobbyist influence will go far to steering things back on course. You want change? Then work to make the American system devoid of corruption then petition the govt for redress after that. The blame game will only breed division.
(DIR) Post #1539611 by folk@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:15:39.090377Z
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@borgerfrog 何よ？ Lewd lolis are completely wholesome.
(DIR) Post #1539637 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:16:47.040310Z
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@folk Dude, that article is legit fascinating (if a bit dramatic).Plus, it's all true. I know because Putin sends me some bitcoin every time I do a good post.
(DIR) Post #1539696 by folk@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:18:47.767048Z
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@p I don't get the appeal of news-based fan fiction. Even if it's well written -- which it isn't, the world building is awful and not believable -- you could just as easily go for other genres of fanfiction with a better authorship base, like sonichu fanfic, or spongebob shipping fiction.
(DIR) Post #1539800 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:22:12.120161Z
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@supergrover6868 All right, why would Russia *not* toss a few kopeks at a propaganda operation? You know how much it costs to scramble the MiGs? But they scrambled the MiGs just to do a flyover of the NATO training exercises. It's Russia, man. They do shady shit. It's got nothing to do with journos' credibility.
(DIR) Post #1539914 by louisoft01@social.louisoft01.moe
2018-11-27T21:26:23.354066Z
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@p @supergrover6868 I sill don't belive british goverment anti russian propaganda as it sounds more and more desperate each day. Like BBC news if full on NPC robots these days.
(DIR) Post #1540087 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:33:40.878440Z
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@folk Every time I see Sonic/Spongebob stuff, I get some sort of feeling like I should go somewhere better. I feel like there's a primal wrongness going on somewhere inside them.brb gonna spend all day crafting the perfect chris-chan emojis so that this instance will finally replicate the feel of the inside of his house until he sues me for his copyrights and i have to take them down so that i don't have to make an appearance in the cwcville courthouse
(DIR) Post #1540262 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:42:44.583490Z
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@louisoft01 @supergrover6868 Oh, no, it's definitely off the rails now. The BBC is nuts, they can't even acknowledge that there may be a reason to do a Brexit.That article is from 2015, before the full-blown Russkie hysteria kicked off. China's got operations like that, too, though it's usually shouty "THE PRC DID NOTHING WRONG" nonsense.
(DIR) Post #1540264 by folk@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:42:45.062389Z
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@p I don't know wtf you're talking about this is some of the most moving fanart I've ever had the privilege of enjoying.shrekspongebobshadow.png
(DIR) Post #1540525 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:55:34.373066Z
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@p Thats not really the isssue for me. Channels like Russian insider and sputnik have been operating for years. That channel was listed as part of this. But as I said that Stuff is moronic and their claims would have no effect on voters. OInly snobby leftists that think anybody not on the coasts is some bumpkin would believe that it would, especially if it would invalidate a election loss.IN reality nobody gives a flying fuck about how far a Russian SAM can go Russia insider was 99 percent Military Hardware related talk. The bullshit is the part is what I saw one week prior to and the night of election when this shit all went Bezerk and came out of the woodwork after months long claims by Trump opposition. That's the part that is the "work" Taking some incompetent URL chicanery and Russian shit talking and turning into this operation to sway voters. Especially when large parts of it were clearly Keskistanian trolling. 1/2yelstsin.jpg
(DIR) Post #1540550 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:56:59.133423Z
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@p @louisoft01 Along with the fact R,T Sputnik, and Russian insider re named as Russia insight all operate with impunity everywhere except the tyrannous FB and Twitter platforms. The US Govt claims it could not stop these intrusions but were fully aware of them and after those claims have done nothing to suppress those outlets outside of the previous mentioned platforms. So when convenient they are on point and and also when convenient they are bumbling fools. It just doesn't track.They took this "propaganda" which is harmless and been around for years and used it to try and stage a soft coup through McCarthyist practice and exaggerated claims of its effects. All the while discounting any investigation or differing view as "conspiracy theory" or even Treason visa vie dipshits like Swallwell and Feinstien in CA.
(DIR) Post #1540558 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T21:57:21.020471Z
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@p @louisoft01 And thats because...shocker..Politicians are self serving, lying, corrupt cunts. We all should know they are. And thats real reason people voted for Trump. To flip the bird at the very people (from both sides of the aisle) now making these absurd claims.
(DIR) Post #1540617 by louisoft01@social.louisoft01.moe
2018-11-27T22:00:15.547781Z
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@supergrover6868 @p Threasa May did exactly this with the sailsbury attack when alternate veiwpoints from the UK goverment spread online. Then the UK goverment was caught out spreading pro NATO propaganda througought the world. https://www.rt.com/news/445004-integrity-initiative-propaganda-russia/
(DIR) Post #1540732 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T22:02:28.377457Z
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(DIR) Post #1541135 by thelastgunslinger@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T22:15:10.806421Z
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@tleydxdy @supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog @kjv1611 Skinning pedophiles alive will cure this disorder, and doing it in the public square will deter others from acting on any such inclination. I care nothing for their safety or life.
(DIR) Post #1541243 by thelastgunslinger@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T22:18:40.097544Z
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@tleydxdy @supergrover6868 @borgerfrog @kjv1611 @p I want pedophiles to die. I want it to be legal to kill them in the streets. I would do it myself if it were. Pedophiles deserve the worst death that mankind can imagine. The End.
(DIR) Post #1541991 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-27T22:44:48.877895Z
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@p Thats not shady thats just part of the game. The Entire Cold War was Fronting off like that. Its like MSM making hysterics out of "bombers" over Alska and California. I have pictures of Bears over Ancorage and Catalina island all through the Cold war. Those old Bears are Recon like are P-3C the Media are propagandist liars causing hysteria making a issue over that. Those lies are what brought out the False nuke alarm in Hawaii., The MSM are Shady. They are not News they are Juke Box for Political parties
(DIR) Post #1548859 by supergrover6868@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-28T06:30:15.168474Z
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@judgedread @p @borgerfrog "I suggest having a brief dictatorship" I suggest you look up the word dictatorship. You window licking retard.
(DIR) Post #1553119 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-28T11:44:36.902295Z
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@supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog Rome had temporary dictators to deal with emergencies.
(DIR) Post #1553488 by rasterman@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-28T12:13:20.094115Z
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@judgedread @supergrover6868 @p @borgerfrog Never abolishing the monarchy would've worked better; but bad ideas were just getting started in Rome at that time.